Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oron Peled wrote: > Do we believe many individual small contributions somehow "dillutes" > the GPL into public domain? I don't think copyright law work this way. > > In a way, it does. If I start out with a GPL program that is 1,000 lines long, and through a series of patches, none of them copy

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 21 בMay 2007 08:17, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > ... Lot's of valid points. > A gross over-simplification can claim that the Unix source code case > with Novel vs. BSD is a case where so many small, probably > non-copyrightable changes were made, that the entire piece turned into > public d

Re: Has Someone Stolen Debain non-free From Israel?

2007-05-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Chaim Keren Tzion wrote: > Okay, so I think it's a bit bizarre but Hamakor's site says non-free was > removed for reasons of space and says I should go to Internet Zahav's site > instead. > The good news is that we have a new server in my office. We bought about 1TB of disk space for it, which

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh
IANAL Nadav Har'El wrote: > I don't think the situation is as clear-cut as this. It is obvious that > I create a free software project, let other people help and half of the > code ends up to be code contributed by other people, then I don't have the > right to relicense the complete project witho

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When someone sends you a patch for your free software project, without > stating anything about copyright, what does that mean? Is he keeping his > copyright and only letting you use it in the GPL software, IANAL, but I think that by default the copyri

Re: Instally beryl on Debian unstable

2007-05-20 Thread Ori Idan
Ok I did manage to enable it. Now when I start beryl I get a white screen. Trying the cube effent (holding control and alt and dragging the mouse) shows me a white cube. when I restart X (Ctrl-Alt backspace) I get gnome but without borders on windows. I tried to start window preferences from the s

Re: sed

2007-05-20 Thread Amos Shapira
On 20/05/07, Avraham Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2-The question mark after 360 was, in the original text (written in ISO8859-1), the sign for degrees (hex code \0b0), and so it looked in my xterm. Passing through the mail, it became a question mark. In the uxterm, it looked very strang

Re: Has Someone Stolen Debain non-free From Israel?

2007-05-20 Thread Chaim Keren Tzion
Okay, so I think it's a bit bizarre but Hamakor's site says non-free was removed for reasons of space and says I should go to Internet Zahav's site instead. What about debian.co.il though? On Monday 21 May 2007 01:28, Chaim Keren Tzion wrote: > Hi, > > Somehow the Debian non-free subdirectory is

Has Someone Stolen Debain non-free From Israel?

2007-05-20 Thread Chaim Keren Tzion
Hi, Somehow the Debian non-free subdirectory is missing from both the Hamakor and the debian.co.il repositories. The rest of the world seems to still have it. Is there a practical reason for this? I have been waiting for a few days to install some non-free stuff. My newly install system has yet

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 20 May 2007, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about "Re: GPL Issue": > > Consider: if I modify your buggy GPLed program I automatically[1] hold > > the copyright to my changes. I cannot release them under any license > > than GPL, nor do I agree to any oth

Problems connecting to wireless networks. Need some assistance.

2007-05-20 Thread Julian Daich
Hi all, I got an Inellinet wireless PCMCIA card[ 1] for my Compaq Armada M300 running Kubuntu 7.04. While trying to connect to several public networks using either wlassistant or Knetworkmanager, the networks are well recognized but I cannot log in. The connection is always refused. I came across

Re: Instally beryl on Debian unstable

2007-05-20 Thread Yehoshua (Shay) O'Hayon Suchar
Ori Idan wrote: > Checking for XComposite extension : failed > > No composite extension > beryl: No composite extension Did you enabled Composite on xorg.conf? if so, can you send a copy of your xorg.conf file? = To u

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, May 20, 2007, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about "Re: GPL Issue": > Consider: if I modify your buggy GPLed program I automatically[1] hold > the copyright to my changes. I cannot release them under any license > than GPL, nor do I agree to any other license. It stands to reason > that you will hav

Re: Description of /proc/PID/* ?

2007-05-20 Thread Valery Reznic
isatty ? Valery --- Maxim Veksler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My quest for the answer to "Can I determine if my > stdout redirected" > lead me to /proc. Is there some good documentation > of this FS? I'm > wondering about use cases for the various > information exported. >

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday, 20 בMay 2007 18:11, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > ... consider it "tax on Freedom challanged corporations", does that > make you feel better? :-) Yes, I always tend to say that these corporations pay in cash instead of lines-of-code for the right to use Free-Software. IMO the main problem

Re: Description of /proc/PID/* ?

2007-05-20 Thread Maxim Veksler
On 5/20/07, Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maxim Veksler wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My quest for the answer to "Can I determine if my stdout redirected" > lead me to /proc. Is there some good documentation of this FS? I'm > wondering about use cases for the various information expo

Re: Description of /proc/PID/* ?

2007-05-20 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Maxim Veksler wrote: Hello everyone, My quest for the answer to "Can I determine if my stdout redirected" lead me to /proc. Is there some good documentation of this FS? I'm wondering about use cases for the various information exported. man proc and if you distro is not updated: vi /usr/src/

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 06:35:27PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > IANAL, but if you know someone who did this they are clearly in > violation, and you will be right to be bothered by this, and you may - > and should - report it. Unfortunately I seem to be the only person of this opinion and the o

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What bothers me is releasing a buggy, low function program ONLY as > GPL, and soliciting people to contribute fixes and upgrades with the > clearly stated promise that the code will remain GPL (free). > > Then someone comes along and offers big

Description of /proc/PID/* ?

2007-05-20 Thread Maxim Veksler
Hello everyone, My quest for the answer to "Can I determine if my stdout redirected" lead me to /proc. Is there some good documentation of this FS? I'm wondering about use cases for the various information exported. For the answer, in case people wonder, here it is: """ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:15:35PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: You fail to mention whether they retained the copyright to their contributions or assigned them to someone else (presumably, whoever relicensed the code). If it's the latter, tough luck. Actually th

Instally beryl on Debian unstable

2007-05-20 Thread Ori Idan
I tried installing beryl on debian unstable. I then ran it using the command bery I got the following: Detected xserver: AIGLX Checking Display :0.0 ... Checking for XComposite extension : failed No composite extension beryl: No composite extension

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:15:35PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > You fail to mention whether they retained the copyright to their > contributions or assigned them to someone else (presumably, whoever > relicensed the code). If it's the latter, tough luck. Actually the license states: ... reta

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:38:00PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > Then someone comes along and offers big bucks, so the same code is > now released as version 2, with a dual commercial/GPL license. > > In one case the people who did contribute code were not offered any > compensation for t

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 01:00:33PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I'm saying all of this just to point out that I have done relicensing > for a pay (or, more precisely, offered to do) myself. That is not the > part that angers me about MySQL AB. What I don't like about it is the > misrepresentatio

Re: sed

2007-05-20 Thread Avraham Rosenberg
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 10:41:39AM +0300, Dotan Shavit wrote: > Hi Avraham, > > I'd go for something more strict like: > sed > "s/\([0-9][0-9]:[0-9][0-9]\)\([^\t]*\t\t\)\([0-9][0-9]:[0-9][0-9]\).*/\1-\3 > $1 \2/" > > Dotan > > > On Saturday 19 May 2007, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: > > Hi, > > Th

Firefox FoxFilter extension

2007-05-20 Thread yaron
Hi all, Recently I installed Firefox "FoxFilter" extension. This extension is excellent for filtering out sites that include unwanted words. I tried to add words to the defalt list that come with the installation without success. I tried to see if it is a permission problem but as far as I can se

Re: it is not a feature it's a bug

2007-05-20 Thread Josh Zlatin-Amishav
On Sun, 20 May 2007, Erez D wrote: entering the url: http://www.my.home.url:22/ in firefox, i get: This address is restricted This address uses a network port which is normally used for purposes other than Web browsing. Firefox has canceled the request for your protection. (and a try again but

Re: it is not a feature it's a bug

2007-05-20 Thread Alex Dover
how do i overcome this protection ? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22This+address+is+restricted%22+firefox 1st hit is right on the money. thanks erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe

it is not a feature it's a bug

2007-05-20 Thread Erez D
entering the url: http://www.my.home.url:22/ in firefox, i get: This address is restricted This address uses a network port which is normally used for purposes other than Web browsing. Firefox has canceled the request for your protection. (and a try again button that returns me to the same page)

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Nadav Har'El wrote: > While I agree with you philosphically (all software should be free, etc.), > to be fair, there's a different way to look at what TrollTech, MySQL, and > others, are doing. I want to stress something further, in case it wasn't clear enough in my previous response. I see nothin

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: GPL Issue": > >> ... >> While TrollTech and MySQL both make their income from >> selling proprietary licenses to GPL code in something which is >> borderline extortion, >> ... >> > > While I agree with you philosph

Re: GPL Issue

2007-05-20 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sat, May 19, 2007, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: GPL Issue": >... > While TrollTech and MySQL both make their income from > selling proprietary licenses to GPL code in something which is > borderline extortion, >... While I agree with you philosphically (all software should be free, etc.), t

Re: sed

2007-05-20 Thread Dotan Shavit
Hi Avraham, I'd go for something more strict like: sed "s/\([0-9][0-9]:[0-9][0-9]\)\([^\t]*\t\t\)\([0-9][0-9]:[0-9][0-9]\).*/\1-\3 $1 \2/" Dotan On Saturday 19 May 2007, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: > Hi, > The problem popped up in the frame of my attempts to switch to > utf8. I opened a uxterm wi