RE: (Im)practical suggestions

2004-05-01 Thread Hyams Iftach
The idea of using watchdog timers work very well since those are usually accessed directly (just map the memory over PCI or whatever bus you have). Those timers start the countdown once they set an initial value and then you have to set them all along the life cycle. One have to estimate the time

Re: Trying to run a silly MS-DOS/Windows console application under Linux

2004-05-01 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Omer Zak wrote: System: RedHat 8.0, wine version 20020605. Yes, I know it's old version. But the application in question used to run under MS-DOS in an old PC, which I want to retire now. I hope that changes made to wine affected only its Windows part, and that its console was stable. I config

Trying to run a silly MS-DOS/Windows console application under Linux

2004-05-01 Thread Omer Zak
System: RedHat 8.0, wine version 20020605. Yes, I know it's old version. But the application in question used to run under MS-DOS in an old PC, which I want to retire now. I hope that changes made to wine affected only its Windows part, and that its console was stable. I configured wine to acc

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It doesn't have this feature Are you saying that grub's "fallback" does not work? Reading the docs, this should not work. "Fallback" i

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > >Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > >> It doesn't have this feature > > >Are you saying that grub's "fallback" does not work? > > > > Reading the docs, this should not work. "Fallback" is good for a > sit

Re: Opteron Binaries.

2004-05-01 Thread Orna Agmon
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Ira Abramov wrote: > Someone just asked me and I didn't know what to tell him... > > an Opteron machine, how x86 is it? I understand it's supposed to be > fully backwards compatible. does it mean I can just take an x86 regular > 32 bit kernel and binaries and run on it? is 64b

[HAIFUX LECTURE] Adir Abraham on SiL- Firewall with IPTables

2004-05-01 Thread Orna Agmon
Next Monday (3/5/2004), 18:30, the Haifa Linux Club will once again meet to hear Adir Abraham talk about: How to protect your home/office network? Using IPTables and building a Firewall Background, Motivation and Concepts This lecture is a "Staying in Lin

Re: Opteron Binaries.

2004-05-01 Thread Adir Abraham
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Ira Abramov wrote: > Someone just asked me and I didn't know what to tell him... > > an Opteron machine, how x86 is it? I understand it's supposed to be > fully backwards compatible. does it mean I can just take an x86 regular > 32 bit kernel and binaries and run on it? is 64b

Grub vs. Lilo - summary

2004-05-01 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ok, here is my take on the matter: First of all, if unattended kernel replacements or RAID root FS are not important to you, GRUB gobbles up LILO any day of the week. It is faster to load, more resiliant to configuration errors, and more secure when you try to lock down the config using boot pas

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It doesn't have this feature Are you saying that grub's "fallback" does not work? Reading the docs, this should not work. "Fallback" is good for a situation where either the kernel, initrd or root device cannot be found

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Shaul Karl wrote: > > > Nice. Does grub has an equivalent for Shachar's lilo -D/-R? > > Grub is a great boot loader. It is very strong, but it has two missing > features that LILO has, that make it totally inapropriate for server > use. > > It does

Re: Impractical suggestions

2004-05-01 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 03:28:44PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Not only is this not a practical solution, it will not even work. > > First, it's not practical because in order to put a modem into any > modern machine, I will need to find a modem supported by Linux. Most > often, this will ty

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Shaul Karl wrote: On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 01:23:35PM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: bootparam(7) mentiones both 'panic=N' on the command line and /proc/sys/kernel/panic. I never used this myself. -- Didi Nice. Does grub has an equivalent for Shachar's lilo -D/-R? Grub is a great boot

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 03:06:34PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: > On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 01:23:35PM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > bootparam(7) mentiones both 'panic=N' on the command line and > > /proc/sys/kernel/panic. I never used this myself. > > -- > > Didi > > > Nice. Does grub has an

Re: Impractical suggestions

2004-05-01 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Not only is this not a practical solution, it will not even work. First, it's not practical because in order to put a modem into any modern machine, I will need to find a modem supported by Linux. Most often, this will typically not be a hardware modem, but a software modem that has Linux driver

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: bootparam(7) mentiones both 'panic=N' on the command line and /proc/sys/kernel/panic. I never used this myself. Thanks Did, Meir. That did the trick beutifully, plus I'm now aware of "man bootparam". Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ht

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 01:23:35PM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > bootparam(7) mentiones both 'panic=N' on the command line and > /proc/sys/kernel/panic. I never used this myself. > -- > Didi Nice. Does grub has an equivalent for Shachar's lilo -D/-R? -- "If you have an apple and I have

Impractical suggestions (was: Re: reboot on panic)

2004-05-01 Thread Omer Zak
In embedded systems, the need to reboot on panic (or more correct, when the system gets stuck) exists. It is being met by watchdog timers, which cause reset unless the software resets them frequently enough. Several microcontrollers implement watchdog timers. If other people haven't found a wo

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 12:56:47PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > What I'm looking for is a kernel command option (I can put it in > lilo.conf) that tells it "if you panic, just reboot". This will save me > the phone call in the middle, and yeild much more robust behaviour. > > Anyone know o

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 12:56:47PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of a mechanism that will allow me to have a kernel > automatically reboot on panic? > > When remote upgrading a kernel, the most common problems have to do with > either initrd creation or some other

Re: Opteron Binaries.

2004-05-01 Thread Shlomi Fish
There's some information about it here: http://lwn.net/Articles/79036/ Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://shlomif.il.eu.org/ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
bootparam(7) mentiones both 'panic=N' on the command line and /proc/sys/kernel/panic. I never used this myself. -- Didi On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 12:56:47PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of a mechanism that will allow me to have a kernel > automatically reboot on pa

Re: reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Meir Kriheli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 01 May 2004 09:56, you wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of a mechanism that will allow me to have a kernel > automatically reboot on panic? > > When remote upgrading a kernel, the most common problems have to do with > either initrd cr

reboot on panic

2004-05-01 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, Does anyone know of a mechanism that will allow me to have a kernel automatically reboot on panic? When remote upgrading a kernel, the most common problems have to do with either initrd creation or some other form of not finding the root partition. Once the root partition is mounted, it