Sun's X unicode/bidi patch

2003-02-18 Thread Ely Levy
http://www.x.org/Downloads_ReleaseNotes.html anyone tried it?know if it got into xfree? does it work?:) Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsub

Re: [Linux] disable a USB device.

2003-02-18 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting David Harel, from the post of Wed, 19 Feb: > Ok, > > Unplug works but it is clumsy. Here is a better one. I use the command > modprobe with -r printer to release it and omitting the -r to reload it. > trivial, isn't it? > Since this is a privileged command I had to wrap it with a small p

Re: "Dumbed down" users and linux.org.il

2003-02-18 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Aviram Jenik, from the post of Tue, 18 Feb: > > 2. Ira mentioned something about linux.org.il's owner being hostile (or > specifically, Ira-hostile). Looking at the whois records, the zone > contact is one "Ira Abramov", from Eliezer Yaffe 13/5 Ra'anana. The > email points to ira.abramov.o

Re: [Linux] disable a USB device.

2003-02-18 Thread David Harel
Ok, Unplug works but it is clumsy. Here is a better one. I use the command modprobe with -r printer to release it and omitting the -r to reload it. trivial, isn't it? Since this is a privileged command I had to wrap it with a small program I wrote in C that does just what we said and to it's ex

Re: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyone

2003-02-18 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
Hi, I believe that people who _don't_ want two copies can deal with it quiet easily: for instance, for procmail, see the formail -D option (and the procmail W flag). I don't know what other means people use to filter mail, but I guess there are similar methods for other mail filterring programs.

Re: Compiling a single kernel module

2003-02-18 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 07:01:36PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > I believe it worked for me in the past. However today I have tried it > with some other module and got: > > kernel-source-2.4.20$ make SUBDIRS=drivers/pnp modules > gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o >

Re: ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya

2003-02-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 13:36, Reuven M. Lerner wrote: > > "Nadav" == Nadav Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Nadav> Too Stallman-like? Gilad, you can take that as a compliment > Nadav> :) > > I don't have anything against Gilad, and indeed believe that he did an > excellent job ov

Re: Compiling a single kernel module

2003-02-18 Thread Shaul Karl
On http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/maillists/02/05/msg00170.html Dan Aloni wrote: > On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 10:09:09PM +0300, Amir Sela wrote: > > > Is there a way, to compile a single module out of the kernel source > > tree, without fiddling about manually with the Makefiles and such

Re: ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya

2003-02-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 09:58, Reuven M. Lerner wrote: > > "Ira" == Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ira> anyone been there and cares to share any news and views they > Ira> collected? how was GBY's talk about Hamakor? > > I was there. I thought that GBY's talk was quite g

Re: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyo ne

2003-02-18 Thread Voguemaster
I personally do this too, though... sometimes I forget. Since I don't post that often, it's not too much of a problem to edit the "To:" field, and I never have more than 1 address for the list there to edit anyway. Eli On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:21:34 +0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not famil

Re: "Dumbed down" users and linux.org.il

2003-02-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 17:34, Aviram Jenik wrote: > Maybe this is a case of 'dumbed down users' unable to operate the > Outlook mail client? (if this is a case, maybe we should re-open the > "Linux for Grandparents" thread) FYI: a recent thread on the linux-elitists mailing list recently discusse

Re: "Dumbed down" users and linux.org.il

2003-02-18 Thread Orna Agmon
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Aviram Jenik wrote: > The recent discussion left me with two questions: > 1. How did everyone (namely Ira, Muli and Amos) come to the conclusion > outlook can't do "reply-to-all" and show the mailing list name in the > 'to'? Fact is, it can. Granted, it requires the use of the

"Dumbed down" users and linux.org.il

2003-02-18 Thread Aviram Jenik
The recent discussion left me with two questions: 1. How did everyone (namely Ira, Muli and Amos) come to the conclusion outlook can't do "reply-to-all" and show the mailing list name in the 'to'? Fact is, it can. Granted, it requires the use of the "reply-to-all" button on the toolbar, which is so

Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!

2003-02-18 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote about "Bork, Bork, Bork!": > According to > http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2439013,00.html > > Opera has a new special version which "messes" with MSN.com, translating its > text into "swedish chef" language [1]. By the way, for Swedish Chef fans,

Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003, Ira Abramov wrote about "Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted": > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 18 Feb: > > That was unintentional and might go to show my point that I couldn't > > tell (or it was very obscure to me) whether your message was private > >

public/private posts

2003-02-18 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 18 Feb: > No, I just press, as always, "reply all" which doesn't include the > mailing list's address but only the sender's address. > From: "Ira Abramov" > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > "Reply all" gave me the following two: > > Ira Abramov; [EMAIL

RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
No, I just press, as always, "reply all" which doesn't include the mailing list's address but only the sender's address. Here are the headers of your current message: Received: from webcollage.com (199.203.179.226 [199.203.179.226]) by

Re: OT - question

2003-02-18 Thread Sagi Bashari
On 18/02/2003 14:52, Assaf Flatto wrote: Does anyone remember the name of the hardware store that had a table in the Raanana insta -party ? Barinbox Computers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04-6222990 Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [

Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 18 Feb: > That was unintentional and might go to show my point that I couldn't > tell (or it was very obscure to me) whether your message was private > or public. if your MUA is so "dumbed down" that you can't tell if a mail was sent to you, the lis

RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
That was unintentional and might go to show my point that I couldn't tell (or it was very obscure to me) whether your message was private or public. > -Original Message- > From: Muli Ben-Yehuda > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 2:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OT - question

2003-02-18 Thread Assaf Flatto
Does anyone remember the name of the hardware store that had a table in the Raanana insta -party ? Can any one provide me they details off list ? Thanks = Assaf Flatto System Administrator IBM Global Services Israel Tel : 972-8-9182218 cellular 972-52-385094 e-m

Re: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyo ne

2003-02-18 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 18 Feb: > I have nothing against iglu, it's just that "linux.org.il" sounds > "cleaner", that's all. you better explain yourself, mister! what's dirty about IGLU? > > well, it's been going on for 6 years since the linux.org.il domain was > > bought

[Linux] disable a USB device.

2003-02-18 Thread David Harel
Hi, I am looking for a way to deactivate/reactivate a USB device on Linux (RH7.3), in my case a Lexmark printer. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the comman

Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
Dear Amos, When I replied privately to you in the message you quote, I did it for a reason. By replying to the list, you are making tje unforgivable sin of making private a public correspondence. With every additional message you send, you take another gigantic leap towards my killfile. Please ha

RE: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyo ne

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
> Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 18 Feb: > > > > > > so was I until I switched from pine to mutt :) > > > > Currently I read it on Outlook at work (tried to forward > back to home > > but things got weared). > > why not subscribe your home address instead? It's a long (techni

Re: ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya

2003-02-18 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 01:59:35PM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: > Quoting Reuven M. Lerner, from the post of Tue, 18 Feb: > > > > But I still would have liked to hear more of an overview of where > > things have come from, and where they're going -- and why an amuta is > > necessary and good. (I hap

RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 01:41:01PM +0200, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Why can't people learn to use procmail? it's annoying! > > > > Because part of supporting open standards is that you don't > have to use > > specific software in order to enjoy a forum properly. I > can't use procmail

The Hebrew Gap (was: Re: ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya)

2003-02-18 Thread Omer Zak
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: > Can you give a few more details? What generally-useful features of OpenOffice > won't be available in Hebrew initially? > (shameless plug) at least somebody is working on a spellchecker :) And someone else is beta-testing AbiWord on Hebrew documents. :-

Re: ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya

2003-02-18 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Reuven M. Lerner, from the post of Tue, 18 Feb: > > But I still would have liked to hear more of an overview of where > things have come from, and where they're going -- and why an amuta is > necessary and good. (I happen to think that Hamakor is one of the > best things that has happened

RE: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyo ne

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
I didn't assume anything, it's just that when I do a "reply all" to messages like yours (which I assume to have arrived to me via the list, due to the list's "signature" at the bottom) I get "Shachar Shemesh; [EMAIL PROTECTED]" as the "To" addresses. > -Original Message- > From: Shachar S

RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
> -Original Message- > From: Muli Ben-Yehuda > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:29 PM > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:09:36AM +0200, Arik Baratz wrote: > > > > Why can't the mailing list server put itself in t

Re: ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya

2003-02-18 Thread Reuven M. Lerner
> "Nadav" == Nadav Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nadav> Too Stallman-like? Gilad, you can take that as a compliment Nadav> :) I don't have anything against Gilad, and indeed believe that he did an excellent job overall. And it may well be that the forum *needed* a "free as in fr

Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:09:36AM +0200, Arik Baratz wrote: > > Why can't the mailing list server put itself in the Reply-To: field? > It's annoying! Why can't people learn to use procmail? it's annoying! ObLinux: Alan Cox has decreed that 2.5 is "approaching usability". (My words, not his). G

RE: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyo ne

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
> -Original Message- > From: Ira Abramov > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > lshell.com > ] > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate > everyo ne > > > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue,

Re: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyone

2003-02-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
That's part of the problem. You don't have to change them. For example, not only is it ok, but I actually prefer if you just click "reply to all". The problem is that you don't know whether I prefer that or not. You are ASSUMING that, since you don't like to get two copies, I wouldn't like this

RE: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyone

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
I'm not familiar with previous instances of this discussion, I just know I'm very annoyed from having to keep editing the "to" field every time I reply to this list. Why are there three addresses for this list? > -Original Message- > From: Shachar Shemesh > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2

Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyone

2003-02-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi, It seems that there are two types of people on this list, with the following motives (both I can understand). A. People who want the people who click "reply to all" to send them two messages when replying to them. B. People who only want to get each message once, regardless of whether they

Re: ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya

2003-02-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Reuven M. Lerner wrote: "Ira" == Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ira> anyone been there and cares to share any news and views they Ira> collected? how was GBY's talk about Hamakor? Havn't been to the last session about open source - had to leave in order to get

Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003, Uri Itscowits wrote about "Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted": > First I want to thank everybody for the time & effort, > ( although some responses show, > some guys did NOT spend enough time reading my problem all the way {:< ) :) I hope my response wasn't on

Re: ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya

2003-02-18 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003, Reuven M. Lerner wrote about "ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya": > Ira> anyone been there and cares to share any news and views they > Ira> collected? how was GBY's talk about Hamakor? >... > (c) he was too Stallman-like for my taste, Too Stallman-like? Gilad, you can ta

Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:09:36AM +0200, Arik Baratz wrote: > > Why can't the mailing list server put itself in the Reply-To: field? It's annoying! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Yedidyah Bar-David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > [snip] > > > In practice, it happened to me quite many t

RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread Arik Baratz
Why can't the mailing list server put itself in the Reply-To: field? It's annoying! > -Original Message- > From: Yedidyah Bar-David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [snip] > In practice, it happened to me quite many times that a used FAT > partition was mke2fsed, used (as ext2), and then mount

ISOC day at Kfar HaMakabiya

2003-02-18 Thread Reuven M. Lerner
> "Ira" == Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ira> anyone been there and cares to share any news and views they Ira> collected? how was GBY's talk about Hamakor? I was there. I thought that GBY's talk was quite good, although (a) he was the final speaker, (b) he was cut off du