On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 13:36, Reuven M. Lerner wrote:
> >>>>> "Nadav" == Nadav Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>     Nadav> Too Stallman-like? Gilad, you can take that as a compliment
>     Nadav> :)
> 
> I don't have anything against Gilad, and indeed believe that he did an
> excellent job overall.  And it may well be that the forum *needed* a
> "free as in freedom" presence to counterbalance the very practical
> approaches of the folks from Sun and the government.

Well, most non involved people don't know what open source is, nor do
they know what free software is. They think it's about price, or it's
like open systems (this IS what the Sun spin doctor was trying to say
there! - it's like Lego - standart intercfaces etc etc) or it's a bunch
of manaics or it's a cover for Sun or they don't care. Really.

I was trying to make an intro to would explain to *non programmers*
what's it all about. In the end, i think it's about software being
created by people that resepcts their customers and their customers
rights, where this brings on a multitude of wonderful things, like the
ability for parralell development. But in the end, if you can't copy the
software and get to the source it doesn't happen and I wanted to explain
that to people that don't know what source is.

If that is too Stallmanish then so be it. As the man said - there is
nothing more practical then being an idealist and I was trying to be
practical. I guess I'll have to grow a long beared now too :-)

> 
> But I still would have liked to hear more of an overview of where
> things have come from, and where they're going -- and why an amuta is
> necessary and good.  (I happen to think that Hamakor is one of the
> best things that has happened to open-source/free software in Israel
> for a while, and I have a great deal of respect for the organizers.)

The talk wasn't about Hamamkor so I did not see any reason to mention it
especially in light of the fact (which Nadav pointed out truthly) that
up till now all we managed to do was be dragged in an endless pursuit of
legal documents. Still, Hamakor is and was meant to be a "single point
or public interface" and it serves this purpose well - we all had
something to write on our badges, the press had something to put under
out names when quoting. It's not enough, but it's more then we had
before in this regard. 

And, thanks very much for the compliment!


Gilad.

-- 
Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://benyossef.com

 "A 24-year-old South Korean man died after playing computer
  games nonstop for 86 hours, police said."

  http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/10/1034061260831.html


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