Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Thu, 24 Oct: > 2. If you use AMD (or Transmeta/Geode?), compile for i586 even if you >have i686-compatible processor (e.g. Athlon etc.). why not compile for athlon? I thought gcc knows how to optimize for it... -- |)0|\|7 /\/\355 \/\/1|O /\/\'/ /\/\4|)

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Eli Marmor
To summarize the thread, let me repeat something which I wrote in personal, and expand: (convention: iXXX refers to compilation, while XXX refers to the CPU itslef): 1. i586 is superior to i386, in any case (of course assuming the CPU is 586 or up...). 2. i686 is superior to i586, only when mu

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:51:27AM +, Meir Kriheli wrote: > I apply other optimization as well to my system including > -fomit-frame-pointer > -funroll-loops -falign-functions=4 etc. Note that this will result in larger > binaries/libs. At least the 'omit-frame-pointer' part might make deb

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 20:35, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 02:08, Meir Kriheli ëúá: > > Something gone wrong here. kde 3.X should load faster than 2.2.2 (and it > > does here). > > > > This times are closer to the Gentoo I run on a machine at the office > > (celleron 4

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 11:07:49PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > áéåí ùðé 21 àå÷èåáø 2002, 23:37, Eli Marmor ëúá: > > Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > > This is not accurate. > > > What these results mean is that the gcc optimizations for 586 and for > > > 686 are not very different. The CPU it

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Diego Iastrubni
áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 02:08, Meir Kriheli ëúá: > Something gone wrong here. kde 3.X should load faster than 2.2.2 (and it > does here). > > This times are closer to the Gentoo I run on a machine at the office > (celleron 400 + 256MB) running kde 3.0.4, not to the hardware you describe. > > Ko

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Diego Iastrubni
áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 11:32, Ira Abramov ëúá: > Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Tue, 22 Oct: > because some people prefer "plain vanilla" with no extra optimizations. > that's what Gentoo is for - for the people who DO. > > and you'll be surprised, ppl still run a few 486 machines here a

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Diego Iastrubni
áéåí ùðé 21 àå÷èåáø 2002, 23:37, Eli Marmor ëúá: > Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > This is not accurate. > > What these results mean is that the gcc optimizations for 586 and for > > 686 are not very different. The CPU itself might optimize things quite > > differently, with or without the help of th

Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem

2002-10-23 Thread Alexander Maryanovsky
reboot mandrake 9, open konsole and do "tail -f /var/log/messages" (as root) - then plug the modem and see what it's writing on the log. As soon as I plug the modem in, Linux hangs. I will try what you suggested though - maybe it will print something before hanging. Alexander Maryanovsky. A

Rotal USB ADSL modem instructions

2002-10-23 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, This is a "micro" version of how-to to use the Rotal ADSL modem - it's quite simple: 1. Download the CVS snapshot (the driver is ECI ADSL version 0.6pre3) from http://www.penguin.org.il/~hetz/usb-adsl-cvs.tar.gz 2. untar (tar zxvf usb-ads-cvs.tar.gz) ; cd into the directory and simply do

Re: unsubscribe

2002-10-23 Thread HAL
Quoting Kairo Kalamees, from the post of Tue, 22 Oct: > Subject: Re: unsubscribe I'm sorry, Dave, but I just can't allow you to do that. msg22665/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem

2002-10-23 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 19:50, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: > >huh?? What linux distribution do you use? I use redhat 7.3 with their > >2.4.18-10 kernel with Intel 82801 chipset - no crashes here while > > rebooting, > > I've tried both RedHat 8.0 and Mandrake 9.0 with the exact same result -

Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem

2002-10-23 Thread Alexander Maryanovsky
huh?? What linux distribution do you use? I use redhat 7.3 with their 2.4.18-10 kernel with Intel 82801 chipset - no crashes here while rebooting, I've tried both RedHat 8.0 and Mandrake 9.0 with the exact same result - if the modem is plugged in, it gets hung on "Finding Module Dependencies"

Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem

2002-10-23 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 15:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 10:15:50AM +0200, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: > > > Is this another modem that does NAT on its own? > > > > No no, it's those cheap-o modem, a.k.a Win ADSL modem - totally dumb > > thing;) > > Does that mean that the mo

Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem

2002-10-23 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> I'm simply thrilled to hear about your success. I've been struggling for a > week now to get my Rotal ALE070 USB ADSL modem to work (obviously without > success). Currently, my computer (Linux partition) will not boot at all if > the modem is plugged in (it gets stuck at "Finding Module Dependenc

Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem

2002-10-23 Thread shaulka
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 10:15:50AM +0200, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: > > Is this another modem that does NAT on its own? > > No no, it's those cheap-o modem, a.k.a Win ADSL modem - totally dumb thing;) > Does that mean that the modem uses the hosting machine hardware for tasks which more expensive

Re: Strange Bind messages

2002-10-23 Thread Amir Sela
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 10:55, FW Admin wrote: > Hello list, > > > I have significant amount of the below messages in /var/log/messages for > Bind: > > client 10.106.3.15#3771: updating zone 'xx.com/IN': update failed: > 'RRset exists (value dependent)' prerequisite not satisfied (NXRRSET)

Strange Bind messages

2002-10-23 Thread FW Admin
Title: Strange Bind messages Hello list, I have significant amount of the below messages in /var/log/messages for Bind: client 10.106.3.15#3771: updating zone 'xx.com/IN': update failed: 'RRset exists (value dependent)' prerequisite not satisfied (NXRRSET): 1 Time(s) All the clients

Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem

2002-10-23 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
> Huh? That makes no sense. If it works, it's probably because it's > using one of the "generic" modules supplied with the kernel. Could you > find out which? I'm willing to bet that UML doesn't have anything to > do with it in this case. it's uploading some .bin file into the modem, resets the mo

Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem

2002-10-23 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
Hetz wrote: > > Surprisingly, at the moment you don't need any additional kernel modules which > > are outside the kernel, so I think SuSE, Red Hat, Mandrake prebuilt kernel > > should do the trick and the modem is using some UML (user mode Linux) tricks > > to make it work. Huh? That makes no s

Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem

2002-10-23 Thread Dani Arbel
Hez, I would be glad to host these file along with the adsl-howto. that will be in http://damyen.technion.ac.il/~dani Dani On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi People, > > I have been asked by Rotal Management to support their ALE070 USB modem (the > blue modem).. > > After 3 hours of