Re: OT Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Orna Agmon
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote: > P.S. OSF/1 is no longer this OS's name. It was changed to "Digital Unix", > and later into "Tru64 Unix". And don't even get me started on who owns > DEC now, and how it's called - it's hard to keep track :) and still, uname -a gives you OSF1. orna. =

Re: OT Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Re: OT Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?": >... > True - GNU stuff was available before Linux, just like the *BSD stuff was > before Linux available - but once Linux became wildly acceptible and popular > - there has been MUCH more GNU stuff. > If ther

Re: making a non-GPLed module

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about "making a non-GPLed module": > > Let's say a company is considering making a kernel module out of > a piece of software. Never mind the reasons to make it a kernel module >... > I have researched the various web sources, such as LKML, LWN, etc >

RE: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Shai Bentin
Well, Usually IBM used to do its localization using a group (a company it owned) called Softel, which was set in Jerusalem. When IGSI was established IBM incorporated Softel into IGSI. It may have taken some of the localization development and moved it into IBM Haifa. The people in tel aviv are no

Re: C program segfaults when run, not under GDB

2001-11-25 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi, Your program has a few bugs (beside the style problems): 1. It just does not work when there is more than one occurence of s2 in s1, because you are just moving s1[c1+factor] to s1[c1], and the matching of s1+c1 with s2 cannot be performed at the same time. 2. s1[c1+factor] can reach beyon

RE: making a non-GPLed module

2001-11-25 Thread Iftach Hyams
A good place to start is the RT Linux companies. Under the http://www.lineo.com/products/embedix/ you will find a white paper PDF that give a nice coverage of the issue. Since it it a commercial product they probably checked thing out. Let us now about you final conclusion.. >> -Original Mes

[***POLITICAL*** OT] Re: OT Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Omer Zak
On 25 Nov 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > * About Torvalds comments - being from Scandinavia, I am not surprised > > at all about them. They all fit the "Why cannot everyone in the > > world get along just like we do?" attitude. > > What do you mean? Like the Norwe

Re: Can't see Hebrew fonts in KDE 2.1.1

2001-11-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Lior Kesos wrote: > Played with it and got to a stage I can see the mixed fonts althoug > they're all idented to the right. > The wierd thing is that printing hebrew with -H is only possible with no > vimrc file. > The minute I use my default or even the hebrew enhanced .vimr

Re: making a non-GPLed module

2001-11-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi Oleg, To make it short... You can make a binary-only module without any problem AS LONG as you don't modify the kernel sources itself (see the LWN story about symbols are not changed every micro release)... Now - it really depends how do u make this module. I would suggest that to do like

Re: Can't see Hebrew fonts in KDE 2.1.1

2001-11-25 Thread Lior Kesos
Played with it and got to a stage I can see the mixed fonts althoug they're all idented to the right. The wierd thing is that printing hebrew with -H is only possible with no vimrc file. The minute I use my default or even the hebrew enhanced .vimrc it appears to lose it's ability to print hebr

Re: OT Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > * About Torvalds comments - being from Scandinavia, I am not surprised > at all about them. They all fit the "Why cannot everyone in the > world get along just like we do?" attitude. What do you mean? Like the Norwegians and the Swedes? No love lost there, to pu

making a non-GPLed module

2001-11-25 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Let's say a company is considering making a kernel module out of a piece of software. Never mind the reasons to make it a kernel module - assume they are good and valid. There is no intention to sneak this module into the mainstream kernel - it's an add-on. Suppose there is a requirement to dist

Re: Can't see Hebrew fonts in KDE 2.1.1

2001-11-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Lior Kesos wrote: > With all of the hebrew hacks around and qt3 out is there a way to edit > mixed english and hebrew html in vim with a konsole? What hebrew exactly? You probably refer to some sort of ISO-8859-8-encoded hebrew (with or without -i, , or windows-1255, which i

Re: OT Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Sunday 25 November 2001 18:35 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > He doesn't even mention the abbreviation GNU in the article, though > he got the stuff about Richard Stalman and his manifesto right. Oof, I hate this GNU-before-linux-thing! Mr. RMS has met once Elizabeth from Linux Weekly News

Re: Can't see Hebrew fonts in KDE 2.1.1

2001-11-25 Thread Lior Kesos
With all of the hebrew hacks around and qt3 out is there a way to edit mixed english and hebrew html in vim with a konsole? Or do I need to reboot to my windows partition each time I want to edit hebrew html. Maybe a html editor with hebrew support? Does anyone have the recepie for this one? Li

Re: OT Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread dov
I also saw the article and there were a quite a few thinsg that irretated me: * Dudi Goldman does not seem to understand that all that Linux is doing, has been doing, and will be doing is kernel work. We all take it quite leasurly that the whole system is being called Linux and we know that

Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Ely Levy
IBM also doing bidi support for open office and btw IBM only did bidi support for the renderer of mozilla not for the printing. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Eli Marmor wrote: > Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > > those 2 projects is very welcome to t

Re: redhat 7.2 install/upgrade experiences?

2001-11-25 Thread Ely Levy
why not check redhat's bugzilla? I think most of them already fixed with updates one really stupid thing I found in 7.2 is that ident giving DES responds by default. I don't really get it as it's not part of the protocol and you don't really pass the key... weird..caused problems with postgress au

routing problem to ftp.iglu.org.il

2001-11-25 Thread Ariel Biener
Hi, It seems that the net for that server is being advertised in a such way that all access to it from outside AT&T or actcom is going via abroad: Look: Israel-IX#sh ip bgp 192.117.122.34 BGP routing table entry for 192.117.96.0/19, version 112897 Paths: (4 available, best #4) ...

OT Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Hebrew & Linux from IBM?": > > As usual mr. Dudi Goldman made some mistakes > > > > 2. Contrary to the belief - you CAN charge money for a GPL application > > (provided that it comes with the source, and

Re: C program segfaults when run, not under GDB

2001-11-25 Thread Yaacov Fenster - System Engineering Troubleshooting and other miracles
By default, string constants are put into read only memory pages. You are getting a SEGV when you try to modify one by s1[c1]=s1[c1+factor]; You can "workaround" it by using the -fwritable-strings in gcc or something similar in a different c/c++ compiler. However the best way is to copy the const

Bar-Ilan's Linux Day

2001-11-25 Thread David Shadmi
To whom it may concern: I accidentally added SUN to my previous e-mail (subject:Linux Day - Invitation). I wish to clarify that SUN has no connection to this event. I apologize for any misunderstanding. Sincerely, David Shadmi ==

Linux Day at Bar-Ilan University - Error correction

2001-11-25 Thread David Shadmi
To whom it may concern: I accidentally added SUN to my previous e-mail (subject:Linux Day - Invitation). I wish to clarify that SUN has no connection to this event. I apologize for any misunderstanding. Sincerely, David Shadmi =

Re: redhat 7.2 install/upgrade experiences?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Jonathan Ben-Avraham wrote about "Re: redhat 7.2 install/upgrade experiences?": > Redhat 7.2 is really Redhat 8.0 - Lots of surprises that should not be in > a minor release, like iproute's "ip" instead of "ifconfig". I still have ifconfig... $ cat /etc/redhat-release Red

Re: redhat 7.2 install/upgrade experiences?

2001-11-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> 7.2's grub is very nice and easier to use than lilo. Speaking of GRUB, I had a "nice" weekend last week, trying to find which of my SDRAM sticks is bad (simmcenter's program tested my memory over 40 times and says it was ok, while memtest 86 found already in the 5th loop some major problems)

Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Hebrew & Linux from IBM?": > As usual mr. Dudi Goldman made some mistakes > > 2. Contrary to the belief - you CAN charge money for a GPL application > (provided that it comes with the source, and for a "reasonable amount"). Of > course you can o

Re: redhat 7.2 install/upgrade experiences?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, guy keren wrote about "redhat 7.2 install/upgrade experiences?": > i need to help some company upgrade some machines from RH 6.2 to RH 7.X . > > on the surface, i think upgrading to RH 7.2 should be done, even thought > its a bit new. the reason is that i didn't hear of prob

Re: Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Eli Marmor
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > those 2 projects is very welcome to the IL linux community, but is there > something more that IBM didn't reveal and planning to reveal next month? We all will be more clever after December 5. And this is true for Rational plans too (discussed here 2-3 days ago). But don't

Re: Where to get Hebrew Xkb keymap ?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Aharon Schkolnik wrote about "Re: Where to get Hebrew Xkb keymap ?": > Well, I started having problems when I upgraded from RedHat 7.0 to > RedHat 7.2. For example, the shin, space and delete keys didn't work > when I switched to Hebrew. I have since located a copy fo the ke

Re: redhat 7.2 install/upgrade experiences?

2001-11-25 Thread Jonathan Ben-Avraham
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, guy keren wrote: > > hi, > > i need to help some company upgrade some machines from RH 6.2 to RH 7.X . > > on the surface, i think upgrading to RH 7.2 should be done, even thought > its a bit new. the reason is that i didn't hear of problems with it - yet. > however, if i

Hebrew & Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, Over the last weekend there was an interview with Linus torvalds in Yedioth Ahronot.. As usual mr. Dudi Goldman made some mistakes 1. Linus didn't exactly helped or encouraged people to port Linux to non x86 platforms, on the contrary - he stated that he used every trick on the book to

redhat 7.2 install/upgrade experiences?

2001-11-25 Thread guy keren
hi, i need to help some company upgrade some machines from RH 6.2 to RH 7.X . on the surface, i think upgrading to RH 7.2 should be done, even thought its a bit new. the reason is that i didn't hear of problems with it - yet. however, if i hear there are problems there, then i'd stick to redhat

Re: weird hard-disk performance prob

2001-11-25 Thread Miki Shapiro
. To sharpen my point, yes, I know the P200 mobo doesn't support UDMA. It supports PIO4, which is set up correctly in the BIOS (which, if I remember correctly, the linux kernel really doesn't give a damn about ), and the kernel detects the mobo's PIO4 support as seen here: PIIX3: IDE controller

Re: Where to get Hebrew Xkb keymap ?

2001-11-25 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
> "Yedidyah" == Yedidyah Bar-David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yedidyah> Hi The hebrew map on 7.[12] is already good (as well as Yedidyah> probably all distros that use XFree 4.1). There was Yedidyah> some recent discussion in linux-il or ivrix-discuss (I Yedidyah> don't reme

weird hard-disk performance prob

2001-11-25 Thread Miki Shapiro
Hi! I'm getting this weird(?) behaviour from my system: 2 UDMA Harddisks, connected to a PIO4 motherboard (A Classic Pentium 200) They read at 5-8 Megs/sec, but they write at 1MB/sec. Is this normal? I'm using reiser 3.x on SuSE7.0/2.4.9 kernel 13:54|[pharoe] root:~#hdparm -Tt /dev/hdc /dev/

Re: sendsms 2.4, cellcom sending is broken?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
[people, sorry about the spam - this is probably getting a bit too detailed for the linux-il list...] On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Skliarouk Arieh wrote about "Re: sendsms 2.4, cellcom sending is broken?": > I found the mistakes. > 1. The script no longer checks file .cellphonerc (Where I had working >

Re: C program segfaults when run, not under GDB

2001-11-25 Thread Max Kovgan
you're right ..according to this given example, it's a constant string, so it is inside the executable, and is read only,and when gdb runs the binary, it probably opens it in other (protected) memory space in writeable mode. but i'll try to protect my statement : if the string is accepted not as

Re: C program segfaults when run, not under GDB

2001-11-25 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Eugene Romm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've written a procedure that's supposed to remove all occurances of > string2 from string1 (parameters). I'd use sth like strstr(3) for that... Is it homework? > Segfault occurs on line 29, as far as I can tell. And that would be if (factor!

Re: sendsms 2.4, cellcom sending is broken?

2001-11-25 Thread Skliarouk Arieh
Hi, Nadav > > #/usr/local/bin/sendsms 053-567890 Arie "Test from arie" > > [01/11/25 12:15] Sending to 053567890: Test from arie (Arie) > > Error: 302 Object moved > > Error: 302 Object moved > > Error: 302 Object moved > > Error: 302 Object moved > > Failed 4 login attempts - giving up. > > # >

Re: sendsms 2.4, cellcom sending is broken?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Skliarouk Arieh wrote about "sendsms 2.4, cellcom sending is broken?": > Hi! > > #/usr/local/bin/sendsms 053-567890 Arie "Test from arie" > [01/11/25 12:15] Sending to 053567890: Test from arie (Arie) > Error: 302 Object moved > Error: 302 Object moved > Error: 302 Object m

Re: C program segfaults when run, not under GDB

2001-11-25 Thread mulix
the problem here isn't a buffer overflow, i'm afraid. the problem here is that s1 and s2 are in a read only section of the executable, and trying to modify s1 is forbidden. consider this snippet, which produces a SIGSEGV as well: void foo(char s[]){ s[0] = 'b'; } int main() { foo("a");

Re: C program segfaults when run, not under GDB

2001-11-25 Thread Vlad
Try to learn about pointers and function calls in C it's basic error : when you try to pass to function string not in variable like char* or char[] and try to modify it error-->"squeezechar2("abcdeFghijklmnopqrstuvwxyZ","deF");" solution is to define string that you will modify in function like

sendsms 2.4, cellcom sending is broken?

2001-11-25 Thread Skliarouk Arieh
Hi! #/usr/local/bin/sendsms 053-567890 Arie "Test from arie" [01/11/25 12:15] Sending to 053567890: Test from arie (Arie) Error: 302 Object moved Error: 302 Object moved Error: 302 Object moved Error: 302 Object moved Failed 4 login attempts - giving up. # Nadav: Could you add at least your emai

Re: Can't see Hebrew fonts in KDE 2.1.1

2001-11-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Max Kovgan wrote: > this thing is covered by the instructions in hebrew kde2: > besides what you did u need to choose the unicode encoding > (10646-1), > and choose fonts with this encoding (misc-fixed or clearyu) clearlyu is not very readable at the moment (some letters loo

Welcome to Linux - Lecture 5 - Hebrew

2001-11-25 Thread Orr Dunkelman
As part of our Welcome to Linux lecture series, Tzafrir Cohen will speak tomorrow, 18:30, auditurium 2, CS dept. Technion, on how to add Hebrew support to your Linux box. The lecture does not require any previous knowledge but the knowledge of "how-to change system files". More info at: http://l

Re: C program segfaults when run, not under GDB

2001-11-25 Thread Max Kovgan
this line: if (factor!=0) s1[c1]=s1[c1+factor]; tries to see behind the s1's end after the index (length_of_s1 - factor) is reached. this causes SIGSEG it's not nice to ask people to debug your own homework :)) bye -=O0~~O0=- "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The j

Re: Can't see Hebrew fonts in KDE 2.1.1

2001-11-25 Thread Max Kovgan
this thing is covered by the instructions in hebrew kde2: besides what you did u need to choose the unicode encoding (10646-1), and choose fonts with this encoding (misc-fixed or clearyu) u better add hebrew fonts - truetype and others e.g. tahoma fonts, elmar fonts. good luck. -=O0~~

C program segfaults when run, not under GDB

2001-11-25 Thread Eugene Romm
Hello. I've written a procedure that's supposed to remove all occurances of string2 from string1 (parameters). For reasons I do not understand, the program compiles but segfaults when run from the command prompt, but silently executes without a warning when run under GDB. Attached is the progr

Can't see Hebrew fonts in KDE 2.1.1

2001-11-25 Thread Manor G.
Newly installed box, slackware 8.0 with kde 2.1.1, when I try setting Israel and Hebrew as Country/Language  (In Preferences/Personalization)  I see "" chars instead of Hebrew. What font am I missing and how do I get it installed?   Thanks,   Manor G. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Where to get Hebrew Xkb keymap ?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote about "Re: Where to get Hebrew Xkb keymap ?": > The hebrew map on 7.[12] is already good (as well as probably all > distros that use XFree 4.1). > There was some recent discussion in linux-il or ivrix-discuss (I don't > remember), so look in the arch

Re: Where to get Hebrew Xkb keymap ?

2001-11-25 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi The hebrew map on 7.[12] is already good (as well as probably all distros that use XFree 4.1). There was some recent discussion in linux-il or ivrix-discuss (I don't remember), so look in the archives for details. The FAQ isn't yet updated. Didi On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 08:18:32AM +0

Re: hebrew support for wordtrans

2001-11-25 Thread dov
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:01:58PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > You can mark the text as already-formatted, using LRO characters (I > believe). But... Last time I looked in the Qt sources (3.0 pre-6), I could find no reference BiDi control characters, so this approach won't help for use with Bi