Re: Deadline scheduler inclusion in linux-linaro?

2013-05-17 Thread David Rusling
ngineeringeffort invested yet___linaro-dev mailing listlinaro-dev@lists.linaro.orghttp://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev -- David Rusling CTO Linaro Ltd e.  david.rusl...@linaro.org w.  http://www.linaro.org Linaro: The future of Linux on ARM _

Re: big.LITTLE MP status week of Nov 19, 2012

2012-11-23 Thread David Rusling
Are we close to giving a big.LITTLE update to the TSC (both MP and IKS) on Wednesday? Dave On 23 Nov 2012, at 13:26, David Zinman wrote: > > https://wiki.linaro.org/projects/big.LITTLE.MP > > > big.LITTLE MP v12 has been built: > http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-dev/2012-November/

Re: Raspbian's hard float benchmarks

2012-07-18 Thread David Rusling
ed and exactly where he was > getting his packages from. > > So it's hard to know how much of the improvement is due to compiling > for v6 over v4t, soft-float vs vfp, armhf ABI vs armel ABI, and > possibly variation in gcc used. I suspect all of those are mixed in. > > Intere

Re: Making ARM multiplatform kernels DT-only?

2012-05-04 Thread David Rusling
sult is and how much working around non-DT platforms has to happen. If it's a lot of work and the results are an ugly compromise, make single kernel device tree only... Dave -- David Rusling, CTO Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH Linaro.org<http://www.linaro.org/>

Re: No group tracks at Connect

2012-04-24 Thread David Rusling
Ricardo Salveti wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Deepak Saxena wrote: >>> On 24 April 2012 03:22, David Rusling wrote: >>>> All, >>>> I've created and shared the Connection Sessions spreadsheet, you can find >>>> it >>>&g

Re: No group tracks at Connect

2012-04-24 Thread David Rusling
Champion arranges the meeting the session lead runs it, they can be the same person Dave Sent from my iPad On 24 Apr 2012, at 23:17, Deepak Saxena wrote: > On 24 April 2012 03:22, David Rusling wrote: >> All, >> I've created and shared the Connection Sessions spreadsh

Re: No group tracks at Connect

2012-04-24 Thread David Rusling
I've added some topics and champions, please contact me to arrange more / discuss how best to organise things moving forward. If you want a hint, see what Amit's done... Dave On 23 Apr 2012, at 16:47, David Rusling wrote: > All, > thank you for a lively discussion.

Re: No group tracks at Connect

2012-04-23 Thread David Rusling
pic or whether we'd have 'topic leader' shirts made for now. I'm happy to own [1] and support [2] and [3]. Makes sense? Dave David Rusling, CTO Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs Follow Linaro: Fac

Re: No group tracks at Connect

2012-04-18 Thread David Rusling
Hmmm.I prefer Kiko's topics, these can also be grouped under the TL's. Each time we've tried this, we've ended up with WG / team driven tracks as before... Dave On 18 Apr 2012, at 16:43, Zach Pfeffer wrote: > While we're planning for connect, I'd like to suggest that we do away > with tea

Re: Plan for changing the binary toolchain to 4.7 and hardfloat

2012-03-19 Thread David Rusling
Michael, me too.Can you talk to Steve McKintyre and Konstantinos about this? We've spent the last 12 months trying to get alignment / agreement across all of the distributions on this.arm-linux-gnueabihf is the least worst, agreed option. Dave On 19 Mar 2012, at 08:48, Konsta

Re: ANN: New Wiki Theme

2011-11-16 Thread David Rusling
Hmm, I'm not sure what category TSC and OCTO comes under, but NOT Administrative! Dave On 16 Nov 2011, at 17:49, Joey STANFORD wrote: >> I've been thinking about compromises because the three pages don't >> really get linked to from anywhere else and thus become orphaned. I'm >> thinking about

Re: Linaro Boot up times.

2011-09-11 Thread David Rusling
CELF did a bunch of work around boot times, this might be useful - http://elinux.org/images/f/f7/RightApproachMinimalBootTimes.pdf Dave David Rusling, CTO Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter

Re: Fwd: Would you send me your hard float experiment results you presented in Budapest?

2011-09-07 Thread David Rusling
Agreed, I'm only interested in hardfloat versus softfloat ABI... Dave On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 23:25 +0100, Mans Rullgard wrote: > On 7 September 2011 23:01, David Rusling wrote: > > I'm a little confused. There's two comparisons to be made. > > > > The c

Re: Fwd: Would you send me your hard float experiment results you presented in Budapest?

2011-09-07 Thread David Rusling
dy. I don't know how to proceed. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> -jserv > > > > > > > >> _______ > >> linaro-dev mailing list > >> linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org > >> http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev

Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] Memory Management Documentation effort

2011-09-06 Thread David Rusling
tting up an area in the wiki which > organizes the current status on the various MM-related threads underway? > I feel that now that we are putting together integration trees and > documentation it would be a good time to invest in making them easy to > find. I like this idea. Also, this

Re: Would you send me your hard float experiment results you presented in Budapest?

2011-09-02 Thread David Rusling
Zach, you'd need to use multiarch and have multiple installed libraries so that you could support both hard and soft float ABI. Does Android do anything different / interesting in its image / shared library loader(s)? Dave On 30 Aug 2011, at 17:24, Zach Pfeffer wrote: > Steve, > > I'

Office of CTO meeting minutes

2011-06-14 Thread David Rusling
See https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/2011-06-14 plus inline: == Actions from previous meeting == == Attendees == * David Rusling * Loïc Minier * Steve !McIntyre * Paul !McKenney * Grant Likely * Ilias Biris * Konstantinos Margaritis == Minutes == * Actions from the last meeting

Re: Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-06-01 Thread David Rusling
Steve, thanks, have a poke around and tell me / OCTO what it means to join in, what the costs and benefits are etc... Dave On 06/01/11 22:36, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 07:32:18AM +0900, David Rusling wrote: On 06/01/11 01:22, Wookey wrote: As this is a non-trivial

Re: Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-05-31 Thread David Rusling
LSB is in fact entirely irrelevant, this work will get done everntually. But should we get on with that now, rather than whatever else we might be fixing, and if so, who is volunteering to get involved? ( Jon Masters and I have both expressed interest but are not exac

Office of CTO Meeting Minutes

2011-05-24 Thread David Rusling
Basically discussing https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/Schedules/, https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/2011-05-24, getting our act together for the public plan review Dave David Rusling, CTO http://www.linaro.org Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-05-19 Thread David Rusling
Is this going to end up in a blueprint? This is the last loose end of SMP / atomic memory operations work and I'd like to see it happen Dave On 18 May 2011, at 16:07, Dave Martin wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Nicolas Pitre > wrote: >> On Tue, 17 May 2011, Dave Martin wrote: >>

LDS

2011-05-09 Thread David Rusling
://summit.linaro.org/uds-o/ Dave -- David Rusling, CTO http://www.linaro.org Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH ___ linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev

Office of CTO meeting minutes

2011-05-03 Thread David Rusling
See https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/2011-05-03. Basically, heads down for LDS next week... Dave David Rusling, CTO http://www.linaro.org Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH ___ linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev

Re: Greetings!

2011-05-02 Thread David Rusling
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Re: Fedora armv7hl bringup

2011-05-02 Thread David Rusling
Hang on. I think that hard float for Android is a different discussion for hard float for 'normal' Linux, including Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora... Dave Sent from yet another ARM powered mobile device On 2 May 2011, at 18:22, Zach Pfeffer wrote: > On 1 May 2011 18:02, Jon Masters wrote: >> On

Office of CTO weekly meeting

2011-04-26 Thread David Rusling
scheduling == Attendees == * David Rusling * Patrik Ryd * Grant Likely === Holiday === * Loïc Minier * Steve !McIntyre == Minutes == * Discussed Developer Summit * Blueprints coming together, see [[https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-o?searchtext=linaro-]] * David * OCTO update to

Office of CTO meeting notes

2011-04-07 Thread David Rusling
All, the minutes of the last meeting can be found here - https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/2011-04-05 Dave -- David Rusling, CTO http://www.linaro.org Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH ___ linaro-dev mailing list

Re: Linus being annoyed by the ARM kernel code

2011-04-01 Thread David Rusling
> linaro-dev mailing list > linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org > http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev -- David Rusling, CTO http://www.linaro.org Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH ___ linaro-dev mailing list lin

Re: Libraries with NEON backends

2011-03-30 Thread David Rusling
Konstantinos, Steve, I think that it depends on how you interpret "plainly mark".I can imagine several ways of doing this - Naming the (binary) package explicitly - install an additional README file / include in the binary package - explicitly named source tar files I think that the origi

Office of the CTO meeting minutes

2011-03-29 Thread David Rusling
All, the notes can be found here - https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/2011-03-29 Dave David Rusling, CTO http://www.linaro.org Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH ___ linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org

Re: ELC and memory management

2011-03-26 Thread David Rusling
Andy, good idea. Jesse will be there, so would be good to agree the problem and start thinking of some directions... Dave Sent from yet another ARM powered mobile device On 25 Mar 2011, at 21:08, "Gross, Andy" wrote: > All, > > Are there plans of having a meeting to discuss memory manag

Re: Tidying up some ARM boards

2011-01-31 Thread David Rusling
We should try this in the Linaro Cambridge office... Dave On 31 Jan 2011, at 11:47, Dave Martin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Michael Hope wrote: >> My office was getting a bit messy so I re-purposed an old PC case and >> mounted my ARM boards, a switch, and far too many power suppl

Re: Call for opinion: Linaro 'Nano' Image

2011-01-21 Thread David Rusling
Yes, but isn't initrd slow to copy from the boot media (caches off, simple byte by byte copy)? Dave On 21 Jan 2011, at 16:27, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Friday 21 January 2011 16:50:37 Jamie Bennett wrote: >>> Could we do with an initrd instead of an image? I mean, busybox + >>> small set of t

Re: Linaro Instructions for Overo(Gumstix)

2011-01-20 Thread David Rusling
Andy, thanks, and I've just added wiki.linaro.org/Boards as a top level index and a page that I've been using for the Efika mx smartbook... Dave On 20 Jan 2011, at 06:50, Andy Doan wrote: > FYI: > > I've just created a page describing how to get a Linaro image running on > the Overo Gum

Office of the CTO / meeting minutes

2011-01-18 Thread David Rusling
All, please see https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/2011-01-18 for the minutes of today's meeting and https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO for the pages where we keep notes etc. Dave David Rusling, CTO http://www.linaro.org Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB

Linaro Office of CTO meeting minutes

2011-01-04 Thread David Rusling
All, apologies, I should have posted the minutes for our first meeting before Christmas.Anyway, here are today's minutes: https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/2011-01-04 Dave David Rusling, CTO http://www.linaro.org Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB

Re: Freescale Linux BSP review

2010-12-23 Thread David Rusling
Alan, I still stand by my assertion that educating companies as to the realities and philosophies of open source is better than threatening them. Your analogy of open source as a standard, a practical de facto standard written in a programming language is a good one.Forking code (

Re: Freescale Linux BSP review

2010-12-22 Thread David Rusling
o behave. The best way to get companies to change their behaviour is to find them and support them. Making threatening GPL noises in email does not help them in any way. Dave David Rusling, CTO http://www.linaro.org Linaro Lockton House Clarendon Rd Cambridge CB2 8FH _

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread David Rusling
For what it's worth, I agree with Kiko's statement. We have three stakeholders - internal use of the kernel by Linaro, external use by distributions (such as Ubuntu) and external use by community. We need to position ourselves appropriately... Dave On 15 Nov 2010, at 15:57, John Rigby wrot

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread David Rusling
Good discussion. Stupid question - what is the Ubuntu sauce? I'll ask the kernel dudes in their meeting in two minutes... Dave On 15 Nov 2010, at 15:53, John Rigby wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Loïc Minier wrote: >> Folks, I think this thread is circling a bit back to itself,

Re: QT4 and atomics

2010-11-14 Thread David Rusling
Michael, the best, long term engineering solution, is to rely on the gcc __sync primatives. Whether there any intermediate steps along the way is debatable. Discuss Dave On 14 Nov 2010, at 22:26, Michael Hope wrote: > Hi there. I've been looking into updating the QT4 atomic operati

Re: Linaro 10.11 Final released

2010-11-10 Thread David Rusling
Everyone, many thanks to all of you and the hard work that's gone into this release. To go from a standing start in May and to build an organisation that has, in such a short time, delivered so much is an enormous achievement.I'm looking forward to the next cycle... D

Re: Common ARM context save/restore code

2010-10-18 Thread David Rusling
All, this could be a good topic at lin...@uds... Dave Sent from yet another ARM powered mobile device On 18 Oct 2010, at 06:18, "Shilimkar, Santosh" wrote: > Bobby, >> -Original Message- >> From: Bobby Batacharia [mailto:bobby.batacha...@arm.com] >> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 4:0

Re: export kernel clock information to user space

2010-10-17 Thread David Rusling
and the UK!Cheers, Dave Sent from yet another ARM powered mobile device On 17 Oct 2010, at 16:18, Sundar wrote: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Yong Shen wrote: >> BTW, 'cheers' is normally used in Australia and New Zealand. Are you from >> there? Just curious. :) > > Oh really??..I am

Re: The summit and blueprints

2010-10-14 Thread David Rusling
Michael, I'm glad that I'm not the only confused one. Good description of the flow... Dave On 14 October 2010 08:23, Amit Kucheria wrote: > On 10 Oct 14, Michael Hope wrote: > > Hi there. I'm confused about how we nominate and schedule things for > > the upcoming summit. I've got a bunch of

Re: OpenOCD

2010-09-20 Thread David Rusling
Welcome Zach, glad to have you around... Sent from yet another ARM powered mobile device On 20 Sep 2010, at 11:39, Zach Welch wrote: > Hi all, > > I was recently hired by CodeSourcery and have been assigned to Linaro > for the purpose of improving OpenOCD. > > Specifically, I will be adding n

Re: Linaro graphics/multimedia meeting - Aug 16, 2010

2010-08-17 Thread David Rusling
Alexander, many thanks for getting this going. Can you add Jesse Barker ( jesse.bar...@arm.com) into this please? Dave On 17 August 2010 09:17, Alexander Sack wrote: > Hi all, > > Notes and actions from our Monday graphics and multimedia cross-vendor > call are available on the wiki: > > +