Re: Problems with timers with linux-next on snowball

2011-12-15 Thread David Gilbert
On 15 December 2011 13:06, Linus Walleij wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Lezcano > wrote: >> [Me] It is easy to reproduce with 'time sleep 1' where the timer expires 1, 2 or 3 seconds later. It seems that does not happen with linux-linaro-3.1 but I was able to

Re: Announcing the new Linaro *Community* Contributor process and team

2011-12-08 Thread David Gilbert
On 8 December 2011 15:23, Andrew Stubbs wrote: > On Thu 08 Dec 2011 14:59:02 GMT, Amber Graner wrote: >> >> The benefits of becoming a Community Contributor will include: >> >> * a Linaro e-mail address >> * the right to carry Linaro business cards (we supply the artwork, >> youprint your own card

Re: [EOL] Request for End Of Life - Beagleboard and Beagleboard-xM

2011-12-02 Thread David Gilbert
On 1 December 2011 19:14, David Zinman wrote: > A request has been received to discontinue Linaro's support for the > Beagleboard and Beagleboard-xM hardware. > > The following conditions will be applied for the 2012.01 release cycle: >  * There will be no more LEB or Linaro Developer builds. >  *

Re: Need testing on other machines

2011-11-14 Thread David Gilbert
Hi, Thanks to those who tested the test program I sent out a few weeks ago. Thanks to dmart for pointing me at the kernel patch that fixes the futex problem that this test uncovered; see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-linaro/+bug/884676 Dave __

Re: Lava testing not specific to a pack/board/release

2011-11-07 Thread David Gilbert
On 7 November 2011 16:15, Paul Larson wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:56 AM, David Gilbert > wrote: >> >> Sure; it's the one in comment #1 of : >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-linaro/+bug/884676 >> >> It's basically

Re: Lava testing not specific to a pack/board/release

2011-11-07 Thread David Gilbert
On 7 November 2011 15:07, Paul Larson wrote: > Hi David, first off, thanks for bringing this forward.  We really appreciate > getting additional tests into lava, especially those that the engineers > really care about. > Is this test part of an existing test suite? For instance, ltp?  If so, the

Re: Lava testing not specific to a pack/board/release

2011-11-07 Thread David Gilbert
On 7 November 2011 09:57, Zygmunt Krynicki wrote: > W dniu 04.11.2011 15:35, David Gilbert pisze: >> >> Hi, >>   I've got a pthread test that is the fall out of a bug fix which is a >> good test >> of kernel and libc and would like to add it into Lava. >

Lava testing not specific to a pack/board/release

2011-11-04 Thread David Gilbert
Hi, I've got a pthread test that is the fall out of a bug fix which is a good test of kernel and libc and would like to add it into Lava. I'm told that I currently have to pick a hardware pack and image - but for this case what I really want to do is to create a test that can be used as a regr

Need testing on other machines

2011-11-01 Thread David Gilbert
Hi, The attached test intermittently fails on my panda running the 11.09 (3.0.0-1404-linaro-lt-omap) kernel; but it works on guinep and Michael's ursa and pavo running much older kernels; I'd appreciate it if people could try it on whatever machine with whatever kernel they have and report the

Re: cpu hotplug test scenarii

2011-09-28 Thread David Gilbert
On 28 September 2011 13:19, Daniel Lezcano wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/28/2011 12:33 PM, David Gilbert wrote: >> On 28 September 2011 11:18, Daniel Lezcano wrote: >> Interaction with irqbalancing? > > Can you elaborate ? Do

Re: cpu hotplug test scenarii

2011-09-28 Thread David Gilbert
On 28 September 2011 11:18, Daniel Lezcano wrote: > Hi all, > > here are some tests to test the cpu hotplug. > > Any feedback would be appreciate > > Thanks a lot > >  -- Daniel > > Test 3: check the affinity does not work on an online cpu > ===

Re: Linaro Boot up times.

2011-09-14 Thread David Gilbert
On 14 September 2011 13:03, James Westby wrote: > Getting a bootchart can show very quickly where the problem areas are. > > I believe that you just need to install the bootchart package and > reboot, and the data appear under /var/log/bootchart. If you install the > pybootchartgui package as we

Re: auxv + neon

2011-09-06 Thread David Gilbert
On 6 September 2011 14:38, Mans Rullgard wrote: > I have an old kernel patch somewhere that allows userspace to read the > ID register > by emulating the relevant MRC in the illegal instruction trap handler.   > Perhaps > this is something worth reviving.  With this approach, interpreting the ID

Re: auxv + neon

2011-09-06 Thread David Gilbert
On 6 September 2011 13:23, Kurt Taylor wrote: >> > Did you mean this? >> >     https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12448 >> >> The recipe in step #1 is probably a good candidate for a FAQ on "How do >> I tell what features the ARM CPU on my device has?". > > Yes, and might be a good topic for

Re: 11.08 Pre-built Images

2011-09-02 Thread David Gilbert
On 2 September 2011 05:35, Anca Emanuel wrote: > Is there an tutorial to install qemu in ubuntu and run some linaro image ? > > I want to test it. I'm not aware of a tutorial; You can grab the latest qemu-linaro release from: https://launchpad.net/qemu-linaro/+download If you just want to test

Re: ARM CPU part numbers

2011-09-01 Thread David Gilbert
On 1 September 2011 10:40, Andrew Stubbs wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm currently trying to get GCC to auto-detect what CPU to optimize for by > finding out what CPU it's actually running on (the user would only have to > pass -mcpu=native). It does this simply by reading /proc/cpuinfo. > > The problem

Re: 11.08 Pre-built Images

2011-08-30 Thread David Gilbert
On 26 August 2011 15:36, Andy Doan wrote: > The 11.08 release includes some commonly used pre-built images. This > mean you can now download a single file and "dd" it to your SD card > without having to use linaro-media-create. > > The images just use the l-m-c defaults. ie, there's no pre-built i

Re: Changing default root file system to btrfs

2011-08-04 Thread David Gilbert
On 4 August 2011 15:28, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > On 4 August 2011 14:56, David Gilbert wrote: >> On 4 August 2011 14:52, James Tunnicliffe >> wrote: >>> I have seen poor performance when DDing to a card, which I assume is >>> because dd is not writing large

Re: Changing default root file system to btrfs

2011-08-04 Thread David Gilbert
On 4 August 2011 14:52, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > I have seen poor performance when DDing to a card, which I assume is > because dd is not writing large aligned chunks. If we can dd the first > meg or so of data onto the card, then write in 4MB chunks that are all > 4MB aligned that should be qui

Re: Changing default root file system to btrfs

2011-08-04 Thread David Gilbert
On 4 August 2011 12:46, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > Hi, > > Our current default root file system, ext3, is proving to be a > bottleneck for SD card performance. Not only does it take a long time > to format the partitions, but it also takes a long time to write to. > This slows down creating images

Re: [CALL FOR TESTING] Linaro 11.07 Candidate

2011-07-27 Thread David Gilbert
On 27 July 2011 11:48, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > Hi, > First we have duplication of hardware packs, but not the checksum > files and GPG signatures to go with them. The hardware packs are > hardware, not distribution specific, so it is difficult to justify to > have them in multiple locations. I

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-07-12 Thread David Gilbert
On 12 July 2011 13:40, Dave Martin wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 01:10:24PM +0100, David Gilbert wrote: >> Does it help address rth's concerns though? > > Which ones in particular? Good question - hence my prompt to rth at the bottom; I know he originally asked why not g

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-07-12 Thread David Gilbert
On 12 July 2011 11:43, Dave Martin wrote: > Just for context, I had a quick play to get a feel for the feasibility of > implementing this directly, without relying either on a VDSO or on IFUNC. I originally thought about doing something similar to what you've done with the indirection; but event

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-07-11 Thread David Gilbert
On 11 July 2011 12:30, Dave Martin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:42:27AM +0100, Richard Sandiford wrote: >> Dave Martin writes: >> > IFUNC doesn't solve the problem because either it gets resolved >> > lazily (violating the above principle (*)), or we have to force _all_ >> > symbols to res

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-07-11 Thread David Gilbert
On 11 July 2011 09:36, Dave Martin wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 12:29:01AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: >> On 8 July 2011 19:32, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >> > On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Dave Martin wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:21:27AM +0100, David Gilbert wro

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-07-07 Thread David Gilbert
On 5 July 2011 15:49, Dave Martin wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:10 PM, David Gilbert > wrote: >> Hi All, >>  I've just submitted the patches for the 64 bit atomic stuff to the >> gcc-patches list. >> Richard Henderson has raised the question of why the AR

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-07-01 Thread David Gilbert
Hi All, I've just submitted the patches for the 64 bit atomic stuff to the gcc-patches list. Richard Henderson has raised the question of why the ARM commpage isn't a full VDSO and, if it was, then it would make the version number check a lot simpler. What's the history behind this/how big a job

Re: trouble with should-be-bootable SD cards and kernel versions

2011-06-30 Thread David Gilbert
On 29 June 2011 23:40, AJ ONeal wrote: > The cards are from the same manufacturer, and exactly the same size. Is the ID of the card as reported by /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/manfid and oemid (adjust path to your SD card interface) the same for the cards that work and the cards that don't?

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-06-13 Thread David Gilbert
On 10 June 2011 20:38, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, David Gilbert wrote: > >> On 25 May 2011 04:45, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >> >> >> >> > FWIW, here's what the kernel part might look like, i.e. for >> > compatibility

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-06-10 Thread David Gilbert
On 25 May 2011 04:45, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > FWIW, here's what the kernel part might look like, i.e. for > compatibility with pre ARMv6k systems (beware, only compile tested): Hi Nicolas, I've just about got a set of gcc backend changes working for the inline case and plan on attacking lib

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-05-31 Thread David Gilbert
On 31 May 2011 15:35, Richard Earnshaw wrote: > I think the difficulty here is that glibc expects either the compiler, > or libgcc to provide the sync primitives; and while GCC can tie the > inlined copy of the primitive to use of CPUs with the relevant > instruction, the libgcc version doesn't kn

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-05-25 Thread David Gilbert
On 25 May 2011 04:45, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > FWIW, here's what the kernel part might look like, i.e. for > compatibility with pre ARMv6k systems (beware, only compile tested): OK, so that makes a eglibc part for that pretty easy. For things like fetch_and_add (which I can see membase needs) would

Re: Do we need prebuilt images of all types?

2011-05-20 Thread David Gilbert
On 20 May 2011 18:27, Peter Maydell wrote: > On 20 May 2011 18:10, David Gilbert wrote: >> On 20 May 2011 17:50, Paul Larson wrote: >>> The Ubuntu Images have an extra bit that happens on first boot where it >>> expands itself to consume your entire SD card. >>

Re: Do we need prebuilt images of all types?

2011-05-20 Thread David Gilbert
On 20 May 2011 17:50, Paul Larson wrote: >> I don't quite understand your maths there; if you look at the Ubuntu ARM >> images >> they are 540MB for netbook and 200MB for headless (compressed). >> So at 6 boards to support that's ~4.2GB/month or ~50GB/year which is a lot >> less scary. >> > The U

Re: pulseaudio eating up 100% cpu on i.MX53 QuickStart, anyone has samilar issue?

2011-05-20 Thread David Gilbert
On 20 May 2011 17:39, Kurt Taylor wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Eric Miao wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> When debugging video playback performance issue, we found that pulseaudio is >> eating up 100% cpu time. Just in case someone else is having the samilar >> issue, >> please let know. > >

Re: Do we need prebuilt images of all types?

2011-05-20 Thread David Gilbert
On 20 May 2011 17:12, James Westby wrote: > On Fri, 20 May 2011 16:03:16 +0100, Peter Maydell > wrote: >> We're only doing this once a month, we should just produce images >> for everything rather than trying to second guess which we can get >> away with not generating. > > While that's a nice s

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-05-19 Thread David Gilbert
On 19 May 2011 16:49, Ken Werner wrote: > On 05/19/2011 12:40 PM, David Rusling wrote: >> >> Is this going to end up in a blueprint?   This is the last loose end of >> SMP / atomic memory operations work and I'd like to see it happen > > Hi, > > Yep, there is one (kind of a skeleton) in place at:

Re: Optimized kernel memcpy/memset

2011-05-06 Thread David Gilbert
2011/5/6 Christian Robottom Reis : > On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 04:08:01PM +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: >> >> Incidentally, this ties into the question sent earlier this week which >> >> had to do with Nico's work item in: >> >> >> >>    https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linux-linaro/+spec/other-kernel-

Re: Optimized kernel memcpy/memset

2011-05-05 Thread David Gilbert
On 5 May 2011 18:59, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 5 May 2011, David Gilbert wrote: > >> If people believe it's worth breaking the context-switching taboo and >> putting a neon version into the kernel then yes I agree it's something >> you'd want to do as

Re: Optimized kernel memcpy/memset

2011-05-05 Thread David Gilbert
On 5 May 2011 18:44, Måns Rullgård wrote: > The relative performance of NEON vs non-NEON seems to depend a lot on > the size (relative to cache), alignment, and whether or not any > prefetching (explicit PLD, automatic, or preload engine) is used. Yes, agreed - Neon does very well in non-aligned

Re: Optimized kernel memcpy/memset

2011-05-05 Thread David Gilbert
On 5 May 2011 18:17, Måns Rullgård wrote: > David Gilbert writes: > >> On 5 May 2011 16:08, Måns Rullgård wrote: >>> David Gilbert writes: >>>> Not quite: >>>>   a) Neon memcpy/memset is worse on A9 than non-neon versions (better >>>>

Re: Optimized kernel memcpy/memset

2011-05-05 Thread David Gilbert
On 5 May 2011 17:45, Deepak Saxena wrote: > On May 05 2011, at 16:46, David Gilbert was caught saying: >> On 5 May 2011 16:08, Måns Rullgård wrote: >> > David Gilbert writes: >> >> Not quite: >> >>   a) Neon memcpy/memset is worse on A9 than non-n

Re: Optimized kernel memcpy/memset

2011-05-05 Thread David Gilbert
On 5 May 2011 16:08, Måns Rullgård wrote: > David Gilbert writes: >> Not quite: >>   a) Neon memcpy/memset is worse on A9 than non-neon versions (better >> on A8 typically) > > That is not my experience at all.  On the contrary, I've seen memcpy > throughput on

Re: Optimized kernel memcpy/memset

2011-05-05 Thread David Gilbert
Hi Kiko, On 5 May 2011 15:21, Christian Robottom Reis wrote: > Hey there, > >    I was asked today in the board meeting about the use of NEON > routines in the kernel; I said we had looked into this but hadn't done > it because a) it wasn't conclusively better and b) if better, it would > need to

Re: Automated kernel testing.

2011-04-07 Thread David Gilbert
I'm curious; do we have any interaction with the autotest project - it seems it's whole point is automated kernel testing,. http://autotest.kernel.org/ and test.kernel.org Dave ___ linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.

Re: Making linaro-nano smaller or Give Up Disk Space for Lent

2011-03-10 Thread David Gilbert
On 9 March 2011 19:15, Tom Gall wrote: > Going deeper it's pretty easy to spot low hanging fruit: > From fs - Do we need afs, jfs, code, minix, hpfs, xfs, hfs, hfsplus, > gfs2, reiserfs...  I'm thinking no. > From drivers - net and media make about about 1/3rd of the 28 meg in > use, I'm sure the

Re: LAVA scheduler spec

2011-02-10 Thread David Gilbert
On 10 February 2011 13:14, Mirsad Vojnikovic wrote: > > > On 10 February 2011 04:30, David Gilbert wrote: >> OK, there were a few cases I was thinking here: >>  1)  A batch of new machines arrives in the data centre; they are >> apparently >> identical - you wa

Re: LAVA scheduler spec

2011-02-10 Thread David Gilbert
On 10 February 2011 12:19, Mirsad Vojnikovic wrote: That I wrote: >> I'd like to add as user stories: >>   Dave wants to rerun a test on a particular machine to see if a >> failure is machine specific. > > An initial idea we had was to run jobs based on machine type, i.e. > BeagleBoard, not on a

Re: LAVA scheduler spec

2011-02-07 Thread David Gilbert
On 4 February 2011 21:53, Paul Larson wrote: > > Hi Mirsad, I'm looking at the recent edits to > https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Validation/Specs/ValidationScheduler and > wanted to start a thread to discuss.  Would love to hear thoughts from > others as well. > > We could probably use some more

Re: Minutes & actions: Toolchain Working Group meetings of Jan 24&26, 2011

2011-01-27 Thread David Gilbert
On 27 January 2011 17:20, Marcus Shawcroft wrote: > >>  * libffi/hardfp changes are mostly complete and upstream > > These changes are ready to go upstream or they are upstream ? I don;t see any > patch on libffi-discuss These are written and I'm waiting for internal sign off to allow me to post

Re: Linaro PPAs and backports / release cycles

2011-01-20 Thread David Gilbert
On 20 January 2011 18:30, Loïc Minier wrote: >        Hey > >  As a followup to IRC conversations around backports, releases and QA >  today, I'd like to hear what others think of our Linaro PPAs.  I'll >  start with some history and proposals: To my mind the important constraint is that there sh

Re: Scalable memory operations with multiple cores

2010-12-07 Thread David Gilbert
On 7 December 2010 07:34, Robert Fekete wrote: > Hi Everyone knowing awfully lot about memory management and multicore op, > > My name is Robert Fekete and I work in the ST-Ericsson Landing Team. > > I have a question regarding multicore SMP aware memory operations libc, and > I hope you can have