RE: Halving the duration of every note

2008-01-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
You can use \times and suppress the tuplet number with \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t or your can change the duration of a note by appending a number or fraction: eg a4*2/3 but both will affect the barring. See section 1.2.1 in the R11 documentation for details. Trevor D >

Index: merge

2008-01-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
NR Chapter 1 Musical Notation Collision Resolution @cindex Merging noteheads BTW I use the index a lot while researching material for the Learning Manual. Because I use the pdf edition of the Notation Reference I use the viewer's full-text search to find anything that is not indexed. This alm

RE: markup at the left of multimeasure rests

2008-01-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Paul You're right, R11 is different in this respect. Bars no longer expand by default to accommodate markup text attached to skip notes. Such text is still left-aligned to the skip note, but it is now positioned above the bar count numeral. Prepending \fatText will cause the bar to expand, but

RE: Index: merge

2008-01-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
age- > From: Graham Percival [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 07 January 2008 19:45 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org > Subject: Re: Index: merge > > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:32:28 - > "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &g

RE: Parallel music

2008-01-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Have a look at the 2.11 development branch Learning Manual at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-le arning/index , in particular Section 3.2 "Voices contain music". You will find the answer there. Although this documentation is for release 2.11 it applies equally well to r

RE: Which engraver creates \fermataMarkup

2008-01-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Why not just leave the fermata (and everything else that you don't want) out of mII? Or am I missing something? Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Reinhold Kainhofer > Sent: 12 Janu

RE: OSX version ???

2008-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Daniel Welcome to LilyPond! What you describe is quite correct behaviour. LilyPond is unlike many applications and does not have pull-down menus. Instead you must prepare and save a text file written in LilyPond input format, and then drop this on the LilyPond icon to convert this to a printed

RE: double repeat voltas

2008-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Fedoruk wrote 13 January 2008 06:28 > > I've worked ahead on this piece of music and > found that perhaps the > problem is not where it thought that it was. > > What I saw as a single bar line in the middle of > a bar is actually an > extra bar who's ending bar line I could not see > (

RE: Fitting more bars in a line

2008-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith You may need to use \noBreak and \break commands to manually control the number of bars in a system. By forbidding line breaks with \noBreak at the point where the breaks currently are, you should get more bars on a line. Alternatively, if there are too many systems you could set system-c

RE: Which engraver creates \fermataMarkup

2008-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote 12 January 2008 21:54 > > Am Samstag, 12. Januar 2008 schrieb Trevor Daniels: > > Why not just leave the fermata (and everything > else that you > > don't want) out of mII? > > Because I'm also creating one score for the > se

RE: Shifting a markup

2008-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Alasdair One way is to use the \mark command. This is normally used for rehearsal marks, and the key point is that it is positioned relative to the barline. The horizontal adjustment can be varied from left-aligned to right-aligned by setting self-alignment-X. Left-aligned is -1, right-aligned

RE: left justifying text over multimeasure rests

2008-01-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Paul Release 11 differs from release 10 in this respect. IIRC release 10 expanded a bar to accommodate text attached to a skip note in a multi-measure rest bar. The R11 NR now says at the end of 1.2.2, Writing rests: "Text attached to a multi-measure rest will be centered above or below it. Lo

RE: Learning Manual PDF?

2008-01-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Albert It is available now in PDF format. Click on the Learning Manual (LM) link on the development documentation page and look at the top of the page which comes up. I don't know why this is different for the LM. It would be good if someone could change it... Trevor > -Original Message-

RE: markup under end of staff

2008-01-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Paul \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-visibility = #begin-of-line-invisible ... \break % (if needed) \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #RIGHT \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'direction = #DOWN \mark \markup Hi Trevor D > -Original Message- > From:

RE: markup under end of staff

2008-01-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Paul Scott wrote: > > Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Paul > > > > \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-visibility = > > #begin-of-line-invisible > > ... > > \break % (if needed) > > \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignm

RE: Cannot process a song from Mutopia

2008-01-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Daniel If you look in Bach-Invention-01.ly you will see it says \version "2.7.40" just after the header block. This shows which version of LilyPond it was written for. You will have downloaded a more recent version of LilyPond, and the format of the input file has changed slightly between the

RE: Lilypond language definition for Notepad++

2008-01-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
I'm happy with ConTEXT too. Highlighting works well, and with F9 set up to save and invoke LP, and F10 to display the pdf, it does all I need, and quickly. Output is displayed in an online panel. I use the same editor for most of my text editing, and as the highlighters are easily edited to su

RE: LilyPond Search plugin for Firefox and IE7

2008-01-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Valentin This seems to be based on the Sherlock standard, which AFAIK is not supported by IE. I know nothing about writing plug-ins, but I think it would need to be based on the OpenSearch standard to work with both IE and Firefox. As I use IE I can't try it, but it sounds good... Trevor

RE: I need training...

2008-01-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Martin You don't say which of the LilyPond manuals you have read, but we are at the moment preparing a Learning Manual for the development version of LilyPond (2.11). If you haven't looked at this, please try the first four chapters of this. You'll find the most recent version at http://kain

RE: positions of barnumbers

2008-01-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Could you please say what you consider is the 'right' position and post a small example of your ly code which shows the bar numbers at 'strange positions'. We should then be able to help you better. Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+

RE: positions of barnumbers

2008-01-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Stef As Risto said we cannot easily see the problem as all the backslashes are missing from your example. However, the algorithm for placing outside-staff objects changed in 2.11. Outside-staff objects that are created within the Staff context are placed in accordance with the value of their

RE: RemoveEmptyStaffContext and Nr of Pages

2008-01-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Toine I tried your example in 2.11.34 and it -does- reduce to a single page with RemoveEmptyStaffContext enabled in that release. This may be related to the reintroduction of minimum-Y-extent in 2.1.35 (see comment to bug 496). If so, the workaround mentioned there says: This can be fixed by

RE: text in column

2008-01-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
I happened to notice that there is a problem with http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=13, which is supposed to show the effect of padding on MetronomeMark. The second mark, the one padded, does not actually appear because, it seems, the tempo specified is the same as the previous one. I didn't re

RE: pedal position

2008-01-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
> Stefan Thomas wrote on 28 January 2008 23:22 > > Dear Lilypond-users, > in the below quoted snippet I'm not happy with > the vertical priority of > the pedal-symbols and theDynamic. > I would like to have the "pp" , the crescendo > hairpin etc. above the > pedal-signs. But I dont know ho to do.

RE: Error trapping \chordmode in LP 2.11.37 for Windows

2008-01-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
If I run this program by double-clicking the ly file under XP I see the same logfile as Jay: # -*-compilation-*- Changing working directory to: `H:/Users/Trevor/Leisure/Music/LilyPond/Tests' Processing `H:/Users/Trevor/Leisure/Music/LilyPond/Tests/test.ly' Parsing... However, if I use the ConTEX

RE: pedal position

2008-01-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan Thomas wrote on 29 January 2008 08:45 > > It is possible to move these things vertically by hand? > I tried it with > \relative c''' { > \override SustainPedalLineSpanner #'padding = 8 > c2~\pp\sustainDown > \times 2/3 {c4 b bes} | > aes8\< f \times 2/3 {d8-. bes8-. > ges8-.\p\sustainUp }

RE: pedal position

2008-01-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
= #'mixed } > \relative c''' { > \standardped > c2\pp\sustainDown > c2\pp\sustainUp > \once \override Staff.SustainPedal #'extra-offset = #'(0 > . -5) > c2\pp\sustainDown > c2\pp\sustainUp > } > > Trevor Daniels schrieb: > > Stefan Thom

RE: adding to context voice conflicts with instrumentname

2008-01-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Simon Your problem is using {..} after \new Staff instead of <<..>>. I'm not sure I fully understand why, nor do I have 2.10 available to check, but I think what happens is that the first Voice="V" is placed in the first staff, but too late for the second Voice="V", which has already created

RE: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham, you wrote: > > Final call for comments on NR 1.1 Pitches. In general all is very clear. I spotted only a couple of things to comment on: 1.1.1: Head: convient -> convenient Relative octave entry: There is a much simpler way of describing how this works. It's in 2.1.2 of the LM: a note

RE: Learning Manual comments

2008-01-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Andrew Hawryluk wrote 27 January 2008 02:09 > > I just finished reading the Learning Manual for > the first time and I > am really impressed. Nice work everyone! As a > relatively new user, > chapters 3 and 4 were excellent. I am starting to > figure out why > commands belong in various places

RE: GDP: NR 1.1 Piano Templates

2008-02-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
> David Fedoruk wrote 02 February 2008 05:30 (to -user) > The "Piano Centered Dynamics" template in > particular is overwhelming. > Perhaps separating the pedal performer out from > the rest would make > this template less overwhelming. > Piano-centered dynamics are very commonly required wh

RE: GDP: NR 1.1 Piano Templates

2008-02-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin This looks really good, and I've registered. But I can't see any easy way to "just copy it" if I want to suggest an improvement. Any suggestions? Trevor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beh

RE: Choral lyrics assistance, please.

2008-02-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Nick I saw your later note about using book, but it can be done in straightforward Lily, although maybe 'straightforward' is not the right word! Using book is probably easier. The problem you had is the quite tricky positioning of the sequential and simultaneous sections. I'll explain here

RE: Keeping ossia staves away from SystemStartBar

2008-02-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Michael I don't know a regular way of doing this, but here's a hack which might get you going. It's a way of fooling LilyPond into thinking the standard staff has continued after the break. Pinch, say, a tenth of the first note value after the break and introduce a spacer note of that tenth,

RE: GDP: NR 1.1 Piano Templates

2008-02-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
iano Templates > > > And before anybody says anything, adding a simple > button for this > this is already on the TODO list for LSR. > > Cheers, > - Graham > > > On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:27:13 +0100 > Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > &g

RE: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote 04 February 2008 16:27 > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:42:55 -0600 > Stan Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > > > >> I bet that there's less than a hundred people > > > > > > You mean "I bet there are fewer than..."

RE: Hairpin and Textscript

2008-02-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Thomas Have a look at section 4.4.3 in the Learning Manual at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-le arning/index where this is discussed. (Actually it seems the images there are broken at the moment. If you find this, try http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation

RE: Hairpin and Textscript

2008-02-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
vor D > -Original Message- > From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 February 2008 11:31 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lilypond bug > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Hairpin and Textscript > > > > > Trevor Daniels wrote: > > ... > > &

RE: LM 3-4

2008-02-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
bug in the documentation. :) > > - if you're an advanced user and haven't done so > already, please skim > through this material. The lilypond docs are > famously written by > people who don't know what they're talking > about[1], so we really need > kn

RE: index entries for snippets

2008-02-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote on 08 February 2008 19:49 > > Do we want index entries for snippets? For example, in > NR 1.1.3.2 Key signature > there are two snippets: suppressing natural signs in key > signatures, and non-standard key signatures. > > Do you want to have items like: > @cindex key sig

RE: index entries for snippets

2008-02-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote on 08 February 2008 21:26 > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:08:08 -0000 > "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > @cindex natural sign, suppressing > > > > At present the only entry for naturals takes you to > >

RE: Dynamics

2008-02-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
You can either use different instruments or set the dynamics differently. Look at section 4.3.1 in the 2.11 Notation Reference for the former, and Dynamics in section 1.3 for the latter. Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=t

RE: GDP: LM 3-4

2008-02-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
forgot to copy to list ... calvin mitcham wrote 09 February 2008 00:44 > "LM 3 and LM 4 are quite hard going for > anyone fairly new to LilyPond". thank you > trevor! i am certainly a newbie, and > although i have always found these sections > very confusing, i never spoke up cause i had >

RE: Aligning "sempre pp" with "p"...

2008-02-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
An alternative way, which keeps everything contained in the dynamic script, is to pad the text so it comes in the right place when centred, like this: sempp = #( make-dynamic-script ( markup #:line ( #:normal-text #:italic "sempre" #:dynamic "pp" #:hspace 6 ) )

RE: Aligning "sempre pp" with "p"...

2008-02-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Sent: 10 February 2008 18:29 > To: Kieren MacMillan; LILYPOND Mailinglist; Trevor Daniels > Subject: Re: Aligning "sempre pp" with "p"... > > > Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2008 schrieben Sie: > > Hi Reinhold, > > > > > What I'm looki

RE: suggestion for LM 5.1.3

2008-02-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
OK, thanks, Andrew. I've noted this for the next revision of that section (and Mats' later amendment). Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Andrew Hawryluk > Sent: 13 February 2008 05

RE: file structure (hierarchy)

2008-02-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Section 3.1 in the LM recognises this problem and attempts to tackle it. Like everything else in the manuals I'm sure this could be improved. Suggestions welcome. Maybe this would be a good place to introduce the idea of conventions or, better, best practice in laying out a score. I would also

RE: file structure (hierarchy)

2008-02-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
ered. Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 13 February 2008 13:31 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: file structure (hierarchy) > > > > > Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Maybe

RE: lilypond include scripts

2008-02-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi David There is a (brief) new section in the Learning Manual at 4.6.2 which introduces you to using variables for tweaking. See http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Using-variables-for-tweaks.html#Using-variables-for-tweaks . Might help, as your overrides see

RE: Polyphony Problem Hopefully Solved

2008-02-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Philip Reading through sections 2 and 3 of the Learning Manual will give you the background you need to understand all this. Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Philip > Sent: 14 Feb

RE: Beaming question

2008-02-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Steve This section in the docs is rather confusing. I hope to try to clarify it shortly. The automatic behaviour should beam 16th notes in groups of 4, ie on crotchet beats, which is what you want, if I understand you correctly, but beams over 8th notes end only on half-note beats, ie on bea

RE: info about controlling direciton / placement

2008-02-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
I'd go with (2). Good idea. It permits a better explanation of the general concept of 'direction (up, center, down, left, right and the uses of numerical values) and the various commands which use it (\..up, \..down, \..neutral). I'd support this as a general principle for (some) other properti

RE: Rhythm mark snippet in LSR not 2.11. compatible?

2008-02-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Risto Two changes seem to be required to make this snippet work in 2.11. This may not be the optimum solution, though. a) The vertical alignment of the inserted score blocks seems different in the two releases. In 2.11 their vertical extend is used to centre them vertically. This did not s

RE: GDP: info about controlling direciton / placement

2008-02-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Since the section is going to describe the use of the 'direction property, why not call it that? Choose one of: Direction property The direction property Use of the direction property As its use is so diverse we can't hope to capture all of them in the heading. Trevor D > -Original Messag

RE: Old Bass Clef

2008-02-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
> Valentin Villenave wrote 19 February 2008 08:58 > > 2008/2/18, Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Is it possible to type-set the old bass clef? > > Yes it is. I took the .svg file in your example, > converted it to > postscript, changed a bit the code, and here you are: Hi Valentin How exactly

RE: Old Bass Clef

2008-02-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote > > 2008/2/19, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > How exactly do you convert a .svg file into > > postscript? It seems a very useful general > > technique to get arcane symbols into LP scores. > > Oh, you'll be disap

RE: what does adorn mean in this context? question continues GDP

2008-02-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Jay I'd rewite the sentence containing 'adorn' as: There are two music functions, balloonGrobText and balloonText. The former is used like rather like \once \override to attach text to any grob, and the latter is used like \tweak, typically within chords, to attach text to an individual n

RE: Repeats

2008-02-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Ralph I'd go for the simpler structure: 1.4 Repeats 1.4.1 Repeat syntax 1.4.2 Normal repeats 1.4.3 Manual repeat commands 1.4.4 Tremolo repeats 1.4.5 Measure repeats This puts the syntax at the front, as you wanted, and removes the ugly, somewhat artificial, separation into Writing repeats a

RE: Repeats

2008-02-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
ered > a repeat, i.e. they won't > > look in the section called repeats. > > Also, don't forget about \repeat unfold, which > actually is very useful > > in some circumstances, but perhaps doesn't > require a subsection of its > > own. > > > > /

RE: #'extra-offset not working

2008-02-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi David Text attached to a multimeasure rest is held in a MultiMeasureRestText object which is created in the Voice context. So the override you need to move it is: \once \override Voice.MultiMeasureRestText #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 4) Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROT

RE: \time; staccato MIDI output

2008-02-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Iain Taking the \time's out of the definitions is the best approach. As timing is done by default at the score level it is not necessary to include \time commands in both parts. So I would write it this way (I prefer to explicitly declare the Staves): sectionOne = \relative c' { c1 | } sect

RE: staff section

2008-02-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Till Might the tempo indication and metronome marks be better placed in the Rhythm section? If you think so let me know, as I'm working on Rhythms right now. Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u > [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: Full bar rests in multi-voiced piano scores -- question and asuggestion

2008-02-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi David I've made a note to add something about this in the section of the NR that deals with rests. I should get to that in the next few days. Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >

RE: GDP: Repeats

2008-02-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ralph As I said earlier, I'd go for the simpler structure: 1.4 Repeats 1.4.1 Repeat syntax 1.4.2 Normal repeats 1.4.3 Manual repeat commands 1.4.4 Tremolo repeats 1.4.5 Measure repeats since this leaves a further level for subdivision within each section. Or, if you prefer your suggested layou

RE: shifting whole measure rest

2008-02-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
It's also given as an example in the Learning Manual, section 4.5.2 Fixing overlapping notation. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-le arning/Fixing-overlapping-notation#Fixing-overlapping-notati on Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [ma

RE: Fingering inside staff

2008-02-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco There is also quite a large section on fingering in the Learning Manual in Section 4.4.2 Within-staff objects which may help you. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-le arning/Within_002dstaff-objects#Within_002dstaff-objects Trevor D > -Original Message

RE: Text script below spanner?

2008-02-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Rune In the LM you can find this topic discussed in some detail in Section 4.4 Placement of objects, SubSection 4.4.3 Outside staff objects. Let me know if this would have helped (or not). Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.dani

RE: Comments in GDP, Was: comments

2008-02-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nicholas WASTELL wrote on 29 February 2008 08:14 > Only after spending some time in lilypond-world. > 'Getting Started' and 'User Manual' are pretty > well de facto standards, but I like a bit of > individualism! ;-) Of course, the Learning > Manual is much more than Getting Started and >

RE: text spanner for pedal

2008-02-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan Thomas wrote 29 February 2008 10:02 > I want to create a text-spanner for the > pedal sign. I hope that I can avoid > problems with vertical collisions between > pedal-signs and dynamic. In 2.11 these are avoided automatically > Unfortunately the below quoted file doesn't > work a

RE: strange error

2008-02-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Haipeng Line 20 - missing " before Andante. Should be: toptextA = \markup { \bold \italic "Andante" } This is the mistake which causes the error in init.ly. There are a couple of other minor errors: Line 39 - incorrect string ae\!. Maybe should be: \repeat tremolo 16 { f\< ees } \repe

RE: LSR how to move clefs on uneven staff lines?

2008-03-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
I'm not sure what you mean. It works as expected when I try this in 2.11.34. You ask for a staff of four lines, with middle C 6 half-staff-spaces above the center. So the lower C will be 1 half-staff-space below the center, which it is. The clef is 2 half-staff-spaces above the center, also a

RE: LSR how to move clefs on uneven staff lines?

2008-03-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
e defaults from engraver-init.ly? Till Trevor Daniels schrieb: I'm not sure what you mean. It works as expected when I try this in 2.11.34. You ask for a staff of four lines, with middle C 6 half-staff-spaces above the center. So the lower C will be 1 half-staff-space below the center, wh

RE: Changing the bar-number string

2008-03-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Keiren Rather than just give you a Scheme procedure to do this, I thought it might be more helpful to say how I arrived at this code, as I'm still learning too, and needed to work this out. First I looked at the BarNumber grob in the IR and saw that the stencil property is set by default to l

RE: use the \tweak command (was Re: Coloring ornaments)

2008-03-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi David You almost have it right, but to color articulations you need to place a "-" before the tweak, as it the \tweak were an articulation itself, like this: \relative c'' { c8 % B with red mordent b -\tweak #'color #red \mordent c } I don't think this was documented in the old manu

RE: chords names between round brackets

2008-03-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
The following Scheme procedure works for chord names. It might work for other objects which are printed with markup, but I haven't tried. Paster the procedure at the head of your .ly file and use the override before any chord to place brackets round the name. Trevor D #(define (addBrackets gro

RE: TextSpanner + \break

2008-03-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi David I don't think a text spanner will do what you want, but the following might: #'ly:set-point-and-click ##f stuff = \relative { \dynamicUp \set decrescendoSpanner = #'dashed-line c1 \mf \> \break c1 \pp } \score { \stuff } > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: Lillypond software

2008-03-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Herman There is no 'main program' as such. You need to prepare a file in lilypond format using a basic text editor like Notepad and save it with a .ly file extension. Then double-clicking on this file will compile it and produce the output files in the same directory. But the very first ste

RE: Initial position of Lyrics

2008-03-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Lyrics are associated with a voice, so they will attach to all the notes in that voice. So you can either put your bass notes in a separate voice, or you can use \skip in the lyrics to skip the bass notes. Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-b

Re: partcombine problem

2008-03-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Peter Forget \partcombine. Chapter 3.2 in the Learning Manual might help. You just need to put the two voices in parallel, like this: \version "2.11.41" \score{ \context Staff << \context Voice=tune { \voiceOne \relative c' {s4. s8 b8. d16 } } \context Voice=accomp { \voiceTw

Re: partcombine problem

2008-03-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
t I cannot see a way of doing what you want easily. Trevor D - Original Message - From: "Peter Chubb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Peter Chubb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:

Re: lilypond crash

2008-03-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
These messages are typical of version 2.11.43-1, which was broken. If this was the version you down-loaded try installing 2.11.43-2, which fixed this problem on my system (Vista), and which became available today. Trevor D - Original Message - From: "Stefan Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: merging simultaneous rests from two voices

2008-03-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
The easiest way is to position the rests by writing a note followed by \rest. This allows you to position both rests in the same place. See Rests in the manual. Trevor D - Original Message - From: "Wilbert Berendsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:13 AM Su

Re: StaffSymbol: behaviour of ledger-line-thickness

2008-03-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
I have no inside information about this, but my reading of the description in the IR is that the thickness of the ledger line is determined as the sum of two parts: ledger-line-thickness = the value of line-thickness * the first number + the value of staff-space * the second number. The defa

Re: choir music, easy piano reduction and dynamics

2008-03-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
The Dynamic engraver is in the Voice context, not Staff. Trevor D - Original Message - From: "James E. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mailinglist lilypond-user" Cc: "Mailinglist lilypond-user" Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: Re: choir music, easy piano reduction and

Re: Breaking autobeams and stem direction with acciaccaturas

2008-04-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Matthew I'll have to leave an explanation of this to the more knowledgeable, but the main problem seems to be starting the piece with an \acciaccatura. Doing this causes problems elsewhere (eg tuplets). Try removing it and the overrides then seem to work. Seems like the voice-context ove

Re: Breaking autobeams and stem direction with acciaccaturas

2008-04-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Matthew wrote: Trevor Daniels treda.co.uk> writes: Seems like the voice-context overrides have nowhere to go if the first note is an acciaccatura and have no effect. A work-around is to place all the voice-context overrides in the Staff context so they apply to

Re: Opinions sought on markup command snippets

2008-04-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Neil Perhaps "both" is an option? What I mean is, use a markup in a score context where this is appropriate to the example or where the markup can be used to modify the appearance of music, but as bare text otherwise. Examples of the former might include \dynamic, \fret-diagram, \postscrip

Re: moving accidental of note in a chord

2008-04-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Luis \tweak will not work here as accidentals are not created in the input stream. You have the right override, with the right object and property, but you may have forgotten that AccidentalPlacement lives in the Staff context, so cannot be overridden in the (default) Voice context. The 2.11

Re: moving accidental of note in a chord

2008-04-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
cted, but these situations are hopefully quite rare. Trevor D - Original Message - From: "luis jure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lilypond-user" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:58 AM Subject: Re: moving accidental of note in a chord El Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:36:13

GDP: Time to plan the revision of NR 2 "Specialist Notation"

2008-04-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
LilyPond-ers Grand Documentation Project Graham and his helpers have now completed a large part of the GDP revision of the first chapter of the Notation Reference (NR), most of the Learning Manual (LM) is finished, and the Music Glossary (MG) has been greatly extended. Pulling snippets from

Re: GDP: Time to plan the revision of NR 2 "Specialist Notation"

2008-04-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin wrote: Perhaps Accordion (and not "Accordian") should go into Wind instruments? Thanks - corrected. and If we decide to add "bowing indications" in Strings, we should consider adding "Breathing indications" to Wind instruments, shouldn't we? Mats wrote: I've often seen breathing i

Re: GDP: Time to plan the revision of NR 2 "Specialist Notation"

2008-04-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
René Brandenburger wrote: a topic which I think could be interisting is 2.7 Lyrics and repeats Good idea. Added. I might come back to you for some ideas for the text later :) Trevor D ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http:/

Re: Problem with acciaccatura and articulation

2008-04-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Eric One problem can be solved easily. To get the slur to ignore the staccato dot add immediately before the staccato note: \once \override Script #'avoid-slur = #'outside This puts the dot outside the slur. The other problems are not so straightforward to solve. Layout problems are

Re: small addition to NR1, Arpeggios

2008-04-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 21:48:41 -0700 "Patrick McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Andrew, On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Andrew Hawryluk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In NR 1.3.3.2, could we change the second snippet to read > \arpeggioBracket > \arpeggio > \arpeg

Re: GDP: Time to plan the revision of NR 2 "Specialist Notation"

2008-04-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ian Hulin wrote: Trevor Daniels wrote: Grand Documentation Project Do we need a 2.4.4 under Fretted stringed instruments for Mandolin, or a 2.4.5 for the viols? Happy to add them if we have something to write under the heading which is specific to those instruments. Do you have anything

Re: GDP: Time to plan the revision of NR 2 "Specialist Notation"

2008-04-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote: I'm broadly happy with the proposed layout. There are just two minor issues I have: 1. Section 2.1.4.3 should be changed to "Adding singers' names to stanzas", unless we're talking about pseudonyms and stage names :) Good catch. Probably stage names are more commonly plac

Re: GDP: Time to plan the revision of NR 2 "Specialist

2008-04-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ralph Palmer wrote: Grand Documentation Project Under 2.3.1 Bowed instruments I'd like to see "Fingerings" I'm not a string player and know nothing of this. Is the normal fingering notation shown in NR 1.7.1 adequate for this, or are you looking for something peculiar to strings? and

Re: horizontal bracket over a single note

2008-04-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Matthew The trick is to add a zero multiplier to the spacer notes, like this: brackets = \relative c' { s8. s16*0\su s4 s16*0\eu } or better, move the s16*0 's into the su and eu macros, and then you don't need a parallel voice: textspan = { \override TextSpanner #'shorten-pair = #'(

Re: beaming problem

2008-04-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Haipeng I think the messages about "no viable initial configuration found: may not find good beam slope" can safely be ignored, as the beaming looks OK to me. For example, two of the messages originate from bar 5, which looks fine. If you like, you can narrow down where these messages com

GDP: Revision of NR 2 "Specialist Notation"

2008-04-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
The only outstanding point from the discussion so far is how to handle text which seems to belong in more than one place, like \downbow, which for completeness properly belongs in NR 1.3 Expressive, but which also should appear in NR 2.3.1. My suggestion is that _explanations_ should go in the

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