"Ghost" trills

2020-08-06 Thread David Sumbler
Having implemented some of the methods shown in Vaughan's marvellous tutorial at https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2020-06/msg00114.html I have been making rapid progress in setting the orchestral piece which is my latest project. But suddenly I came across a problem which, try as I

Re: Iterators in Scheme?

2020-08-06 Thread Niols
Hello again, On 30/07/2020 18:22, Niols wrote: On 29/07/2020 17:28, Jean-Julien Fleck wrote: Le mer. 29 juil. 2020 à 15:44, Niols > a écrit : > What do you want to achieve?     This is actually follow-up research from my side after a previous     e-mail     to thi

RE: "Ghost" trills

2020-08-06 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
David, It compiled correctly under 2.20. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of David Sumbler Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:12 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: "Ghost" trills Having implemented some

Re: Ghost" trills

2020-08-06 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> > > > From: David Sumbler > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 18:11:43 +0100 > Subject: "Ghost" trills > Having implemented some of the methods shown in Vaughan's marvellous > tutorial at > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2020-06/msg00114.html > I have been maki

Re: "Ghost" trills

2020-08-06 Thread David Sumbler
Hi Mark, thanks for your response. But the code doesn't compile correctly under 2.20, at least, not on my computer. What it does is throw out a number of error messages stemming from the fact that \partCombine is not recognized. And, true, it doesn't have the unwanted trills. But it is not comb

Re: "Ghost" trills

2020-08-06 Thread Rutger Hofman
Well, if you change partCombine... (back) to partcombine... (as 2.20. warns about), the problem persists. Rutger On 8/6/20 8:15 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: David, It compiled correctly under 2.20. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmar

Re: "Ghost" trills

2020-08-06 Thread Rutger Hofman
I think you have stumbled into one of the (many) limitations of partCombine; it routinely messes up if a spanner stops at the end of a new partCombine mode. The problem is that these mode changes (partCombine "Chords" mode to partCombine "Apart" mode at bar 3, and back to partCombine "Chords" m

Re: "Ghost" trills

2020-08-06 Thread Rutger Hofman
I mean (sorry for the typo): if a spanner stops at the start of a new partCombine mode. Rutger On 8/6/20 10:11 PM, Rutger Hofman wrote: I think you have stumbled into one of the (many) limitations of partCombine; it routinely messes up if a spanner stops at the end of a new partCombine mode.

Re: Iterators in Scheme?

2020-08-06 Thread David Kastrup
Niols writes: > Hello again, [...] > I have not managed to override the "\repeat" music function. It isn't a music function but a "reserved" word in LilyPond. > I suspect there is something I do not understand in the order in which > things are executed in LilyPond. > > I have however found a

adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Look at this example \relative c' { \clef "alto" d'2 \tweak positions #'(8 . 4) ~ \clef "treble" d2 } The `\tweak positions` doesn't work – which is kind-of expected. However, for this very situation it would be nice if I could change the start and end position of the slur manually.

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Look at this example > > > \relative c' { > \clef "alto" d'2 \tweak positions #'(8 . 4) ~ > \clef "treble" d2 > } > > The `\tweak positions` doesn't work – which is kind-of expected. > However, for this very situation it would be nice if I could change > the start and end position

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2020-08-06 3:34 pm, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Look at this example \relative c' { \clef "alto" d'2 \tweak positions #'(8 . 4) ~ \clef "treble" d2 } The `\tweak positions` doesn't work – which is kind-of expected. However, for this very situation it would be nice if I could change th

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Werner, On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 5:33 PM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Look at this example > > > \relative c' { > \clef "alto" d'2 \tweak positions #'(8 . 4) ~ > \clef "treble" d2 > } > > The `\tweak positions` doesn't work – which is kind-of expected. > However, for this very situati

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Fr., 7. Aug. 2020 um 00:34 Uhr schrieb Werner LEMBERG : > > > > Look at this example > > > > > > \relative c' { > > \clef "alto" d'2 \tweak positions #'(8 . 4) ~ > > \clef "treble" d2 > > } > > > > The `\tweak positions` doesn't work – which is kind-of expected. > > However, for this

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Brian Barker
At 15:59 06/08/2020 -0700, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2020-08-06 3:34 pm, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Look at this example \relative c' { \clef "alto" d'2 \tweak positions #'(8 . 4) ~ \clef "treble" d2 } The `\tweak positions` doesn't work ­ which is kind-of expected. However, for this very

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2020-08-06 6:54 pm, Brian Barker wrote: At 15:59 06/08/2020 -0700, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2020-08-06 3:34 pm, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Look at this example \relative c' { \clef "alto" d'2 \tweak positions #'(8 . 4) ~ \clef "treble" d2 } The `\tweak positions` doesn't work ­ which is

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I see at least three options: > > - The tie should be sloped like a slur. If you really have to do that (for whatever reason), this is the solution to go IMHO. > - The tie should be split into a two halves (possibly > dotted/dashed), each half attached to the terminal notes but > individua

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> o "incorrect" has a tie winding its way from one vertical position > to another, in the process wrapping around the new clef sign. Thanks for the info! I just want to mention that in complex piano music even the 'incorrect' solution has to be used from time to time. Note that the problem to b

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I don't find that Tie supports 'positions. Strange. Seeing Gould's advice it's not so surprising. On the other hand, I'm actually in favor of adding it, for very special situations. > You could do this with \shape used as a tweak. Roughly: > > \relative c' { > \clef "alto" d'2 \shape #'

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> you could translate the control-points _iff_ left/right-bound's > staff-positions are not equal. Thanks a lot for the code! It's something to have in mind if it becomes *really* necessary. Werner

Re: adjusting vertical positions of start and end of tie

2020-08-06 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Hey Werner, I would try to avoid changing the clef in the middle of a tied note in the first place. I can't imagine any scenario where that's necessary, desired or correct. Best regards, Martín. El El vie, 7 ago 2020 a las 7:41, Werner LEMBERG escribió: > > > you could translate the control-po