Shifting rests horizontally

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Bernard
How does one shift a rest in a voice horizontally to avoid collisions with notes in other voices? Using force-hshift on the NoteColumn does not seems to move them. Using version 2.19.4. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org htt

Re: Shifting rests horizontally

2014-04-18 Thread Nick Payne
On 18/04/14 17:05, Andrew Bernard wrote: How does one shift a rest in a voice horizontally to avoid collisions with notes in other voices? Using force-hshift on the NoteColumn does not seems to move them. Using version 2.19.4. I define the following function rsh = #(define-music-function (par

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread David Kastrup
"a.l.f.r.e.d.o" writes: > Hi, everybody.  > I sometimes have to write many accidentals in a bar and was wondering > if there was a way I could write the music in C major and then > transpose only the notes I need to be "sharpened" or flattened.  Sure. You just need to mark the notes you need to

Re: Shifting rests horizontally

2014-04-18 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-04-18 9:05 GMT+02:00 Andrew Bernard : > How does one shift a rest in a voice horizontally to avoid collisions with > notes in other voices? Using force-hshift on the NoteColumn does not seems > to move them. Using version 2.19.4. > Hi Andrew, % \version "2.19.4" { r4 \t

Re: Symbol to indicate an unmetered (cadenza) bar

2014-04-18 Thread Piaras Hoban
Something along these lines perhaps: \score { \new Staff { \once\override Staff.TimeSignature.stencil = #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:fontsize 5 #:vcenter "X"))) \time 4/4 \cadenzaOn c'1 \bar "|" \cadenzaOff

Re: Symbol to indicate an unmetered (cadenza) bar

2014-04-18 Thread Urs Liska
Am 18.04.2014 10:43, schrieb Piaras Hoban: Something along these lines perhaps: \score { \new Staff { \once\override Staff.TimeSignature.stencil = #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:fontsize 5 #:vcenter "X"))) \time 4/4 \cadenza

Re: Shifting rests horizontally

2014-04-18 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Andrew, > How does one shift a rest in a voice horizontally to avoid collisions with > notes in other voices? Using force-hshift on the NoteColumn does not seems to > move them. Using version 2.19.4. Could you give an example of a collision? This would certainly be considered a bug, as the \

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread Mark Mathias
Hey Ryan, Tim, et al., I'm a double bassist who has enjoyed playing these cello suites for years. I also used to be managing editor of a music publisher in the days when engraving was done with a re-built Olympia typewriter and hand-drawn slurs. A single page of melody, words and guitar chords wou

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi Brian, 2014-04-18 8:26 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker : > But perhaps you are referring to the method of textual input in Lilypond, > where notes that are named "sharp" or "flat" need to be qualified as such, > notwithstanding what the \key indication would appear already to imply. (In > this way, Li

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: > Hi Brian, > > 2014-04-18 8:26 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker : > > > But perhaps you are referring to the method of textual input in Lilypond, > > where notes that are named "sharp" or "flat" need to be qualified as > such, > > notwithstanding w

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread Thomas Morley
2014-04-18 4:00 GMT+02:00 Ryan McClure : > Hello all! > > I'm currently arranging the Bach Cello Suites for Bassoon. I'm arranging them > to be more playable on the bassoon (breathing, articulations, etc.) with the > help of my private teacher. Attached is the Praeludium of the first > suite--Ho

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Brian Barker
At 14:41 18/04/2014 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: 2014-04-18 8:26 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker: But perhaps you are referring to the method of textual input in Lilypond, where notes that are named "sharp" or "flat" need to be qualified as such, notwithstanding what the \key indication would appear alr

Re: flag and accidental too snug

2014-04-18 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-04-17 21:08 GMT+02:00 Mike Solomon : > Padding’s the winner! Many thanks. > Hi again, For some reason I totally forgot to try this : %% \relative c'' { \key b \major \override Score.TimeSignature.stencil = ##f \tuplet 5/4 { ais8 b e4 d8 }

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Brian Barker
At 07:57 18/04/2014 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: In my experience, speaking that sort of thing--calling F-sharp "F" ... Sorry, but who made that suggestion, please? This was about notation, not description! On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: ... I don't want it differen

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Urs Liska
Am 18.04.2014 15:38, schrieb Brian Barker: At 14:41 18/04/2014 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: 2014-04-18 8:26 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker: But perhaps you are referring to the method of textual input in Lilypond, where notes that are named "sharp" or "flat" need to be qualified as such, notwithstanding

Re: How to catch extent of AccidentalPlacement?

2014-04-18 Thread Thomas Morley
2014-04-15 0:14 GMT+02:00 David Nalesnik : > Harm, > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:07 PM, David Nalesnik > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM, David Nalesnik >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I can't figure out where that 1.1 comes from, though. >>> >> >> This happens in accidental-placement

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread holl...@hollandhopson.com
I don’t know about consensus, but Trent Kynaston’s arrangements for saxophone notates these figures using grace notes and slurs. This seems more idiomatic for winds, in my experience. I rather like the string notation, since it suggests simultaneous notes/chords. Holland > What is the consensu

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Brian, On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 07:57 18/04/2014 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: > >> In my experience, speaking that sort of thing--calling F-sharp "F" ... >> > > Sorry, but who made that suggestion, please? This was about notation, not > description! > But Li

Re: How to catch extent of AccidentalPlacement?

2014-04-18 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Harm, On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: > thanks for all your work you've put on this. > I'm ashamed I didn't try it out so far. > I hope I can find the time to do it the next days. > No problem. If you don't get a chance to look at it, no worries! Best, David

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Brian Barker
At 08:58 18/04/2014 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Brian Barker wrote: By the way, if you get to have a thousand times as many votes as I do, I'll make a note not to bother competing with you in any future dispute. ;^) Not sure how to take that, but I certainly

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Brian Barker
At 15:48 18/04/2014 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 18.04.2014 15:38, schrieb Brian Barker: No - certainly not (though I know people who do!). You are quite right not to believe I could be that foolish. But there is still a difference in the representations: in musical notation, a note on the F l

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 18 April 2014 04:00, Ryan McClure wrote: > > Hello all! > > I'm currently arranging the Bach Cello Suites for Bassoon. > I'm arranging them to be more playable on the bassoon (breathing, > articulations, etc.) with the help of my private teacher. > Attached is the Praeludium of the first suite-

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread James Harkins
Mark Mathias gmail.com> writes: > I also used to be managing editor of a music publisher in the days when engraving was done with a re-built Olympia typewriter and hand-drawn slurs. I would like to nominate this as the single most insane sentence to be posted on this mailing list all week. Per

different repeat structures in score

2014-04-18 Thread Mark Knoop
I'm engraving a score where each instrument repeats a different bar. To achieve this I tried moving the Default_bar_line_engraver to the Staff context, but now the repeat bar lines don't appear at all. The metre stays the same, so I don't think I have to move the Timing_translator also, but the re

Problem with Staff Grouping

2014-04-18 Thread Dave Higgins
I'm transcribing a piece that has multiple parts and in those multiple parts, I have multiple staves. After compiling, the staff layout becomes: part1:staff1 part2:staff1 part1:staff2 part2:staff2 Obviously for the score, I'd like: part1:staff1 part1:staff2 part2:staff1 part2:staff2 I'm sure I j

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread Shane Brandes
I had the opportunity to try one of those music typewriters when I visited Ludwig Music Publishing. It was astonishing that you could properly line anything up with it, but the fellow that showed it to me could still use it to excellent effect. Anyway it really was in a way good technology. Shane

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread Tim Reeves
Ryan, I'm not sure there's any way around that since each measure is so long and you can't break them across lines... Personally, I like the second one (ten staves, ten staves) better than the nine/eleven version but that might just be me... Tim Ryan McClure wrote on 04/17/2014 07:33:03

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread Shane Brandes
Have you looked at the Anna Magdalena copy? The phrasing is different. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tim Reeves wrote: > Ryan, > > I'm not sure there's any way around that since each measure is so long and > you can't break them across lines... > > Personally, I like the second one (ten stave

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Paul Morris
a.l.f.r.e.d.o wrote > Hi, everybody. I sometimes have to write many accidentals in a bar and was > wondering if there was a way I could write the music in C major and then > transpose only the notes I need to be "sharpened" or flattened.  Hi, I wouldn't recommend this, but if you're determined to

Re: Problem with Staff Grouping

2014-04-18 Thread Dave Higgins
Clarification: part1 = Violin 1 part2 = Violin 2 On 04/18/2014 10:31 AM, Dave Higgins wrote: > I'm transcribing a piece that has multiple parts and in those multiple > parts, I have multiple staves. > > After compiling, the staff layout becomes: > part1:staff1 > part2:staff1 > part1:staff2 > part

Re: different repeat structures in score

2014-04-18 Thread Thomas Morley
2014-04-18 18:23 GMT+02:00 Mark Knoop : > I'm engraving a score where each instrument repeats a different bar. To > achieve this I tried moving the Default_bar_line_engraver to the Staff > context, but now the repeat bar lines don't appear at all. > > The metre stays the same, so I don't think I ha

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Paul Morris
Urs Liska wrote > So actually it's _this_ part that's causing the confusion: a notehead on > the first staff space can represent an f, a fes, a fis - or even a > completely different pitch governed by the clef or a generally active > transposition. In that sense musical notation is highly ambigu

Re: Problem with Staff Grouping

2014-04-18 Thread Thomas Morley
2014-04-18 18:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Higgins : > I'm transcribing a piece that has multiple parts and in those multiple > parts, I have multiple staves. > > After compiling, the staff layout becomes: > part1:staff1 > part2:staff1 > part1:staff2 > part2:staff2 > > Obviously for the score, I'd like: > par

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread Mark Mathias
>> I also used to be managing editor of a music publisher in the days when engraving was done with a re-built Olympia typewriter and hand-drawn slurs. >I would like to nominate this as the single most insane sentence to be posted on this mailing list all week. Perhaps all month. @James: If you ar

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread Kieren MacMillan
> >Music engraving with a typewriter? Does anyone have a photo of this? I'm > >really intrigued! http://www.musicprintinghistory.org/music-typewriters.html Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailm

Re: Bach Cello Suite for Bassoon...Typed in LilyPond!!!

2014-04-18 Thread Mark Mathias
The Musicwriter was it! Very cool site, thanks! Mark On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > >Music engraving with a typewriter? Does anyone have a photo of this? > I'm really intrigued! > > http://www.musicprintinghistory.org/music-typewrite