Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:35:33PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: >> I don't get the topic. Do you mean compete with Finale? If you do, I >> think you are foolish. Leave Lilypond the way it is, with no gui-ed up >> shlock. > We are close to having the best both worlds. Just as we have Unix/LIn

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
craigbakalian wrote: > > I don't get the topic. Do you mean compete with Finale? If you do, I > think you are foolish. Leave Lilypond the way it is, with no gui-ed up > shlock. > Lilypond has features that Finale has not. But the opposite is also true. Some time ago i tried to publis

Re: Left/right noteheads in chord containing second

2009-04-08 Thread Mark Polesky
Nick, this is a little less awkward, but you still have to adjust the 'length and 'extra-offset properties of Stem in some cases. But now you don't have to guess the X-offsets. The macro calculates the appropriate X-offsets based on the note-values. There are still some quirks though. It fails

Re: Left/right noteheads in chord containing second

2009-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
There have been a number of requests over the years for this kind of feature. Primarily to get more understandable layout in cases where there are accidentals on some of the notes and you want the accidental to be close to the corresponding note head, if I remember correctly. Search the mailing

RE: Left/right noteheads in chord containing second

2009-04-08 Thread Nick Payne
Mark My reason for wanting to swap the noteheads was purely to improve the appearance of fingering indications. I wanted to keep the fingering on the left for consistency, but the note I wanted to finger was on the RH side of the stem and thus a considerable distance away from the fingering indica

LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-08 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hi, some time ago the default midi extension for windows was changed to "mid". How can change it back to "midi"? thanks, Thomas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread MonAmiPierrot
Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > > > There is a parallel with LaTeX vs. GUI wordprocessors like Word or > OpenOffice.org. These are two different worlds, but somewhere inbetween > there is LyX. I kind of like the LyX approach. > > I like it too. it's real WYSIWYM. But some LyX users (and even

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread MonAmiPierrot
Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > > > There is a parallel with LaTeX vs. GUI wordprocessors like Word or > OpenOffice.org. These are two different worlds, but somewhere inbetween > there is LyX. I kind of like the LyX approach. > > I like it too. it's real WYSIWYM. But some LyX users (and even

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
> Hi, > > > Some time ago i tried to publish scores; therefore i was in touch > > with several music publishers, in 2 or 3 european countries. As one > > might expect, they have a few basic requirements on the look of the > > scores. Sadly, lilypond does not meet all of them. > > Can you list t

Re: Real-world usage of Lilypond

2009-04-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
HI Wei-Wei, Could you point me to any material explaining this? It's all in the Text markup docs, in particular the Music section: Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user m

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, Some time ago i tried to publish scores; therefore i was in touch with several music publishers, in 2 or 3 european countries. As one might expect, they have a few basic requirements on the look of the scores. Sadly, lilypond does not meet all of them. Can you list those? Kieren.

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
Thomas Scharkowski wrote: > > My impression/experience is that publishers use a certain software > (mostly Finale and/or Sibelius) and want the matching files delivered > no matter how much better a LilyPond generated file looks. > Many certainly do. But for me, some refused the result befor

Re: LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-08 Thread Simon Bailey
On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:32, Thomas Scharkowski wrote: some time ago the default midi extension for windows was changed to "mid". How can change it back to "midi"? put #(ly:set-option 'midi-extension "midi") somewhere in your source files (probably right at the beginning makes sense). i cou

Re: LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 02:39:14PM +0200, Simon Bailey wrote: > > #(ly:set-option 'midi-extension "midi") > > i couldn't find this in the documentation -- shouldn't it be in there > somewhere? Patches accepted. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mai

Re: LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-08 Thread Simon Bailey
On 8 Apr 2009, at 14:49, Graham Percival wrote: On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 02:39:14PM +0200, Simon Bailey wrote: #(ly:set-option 'midi-extension "midi") i couldn't find this in the documentation -- shouldn't it be in there somewhere? Patches accepted. ok. i'll get one to you this evening.

Staff lines running past final bar on staff

2009-04-08 Thread Nick Payne
See attached. If I have an ossia at the beginning of a staff, the lines on the preceding staff run past the final barline. How do I prevent this? I'm creating the ossia with << { % normal notes here } \new Staff \with { alignAboveCo

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Well, WYSIWYM sucks by concept for one single reason. Typesetting can not be totally automated because of hyphenation. So if you change something slightly that causes reflow, there is a small chance that a word gets hyphenated at the wrong place. With WYSIWYM you should not care about this: an im

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread MonAmiPierrot
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > > Well, WYSIWYM sucks by concept for one single reason. Typesetting can > not be totally automated because of hyphenation. > So if you change something slightly that causes reflow, there is a small > chance that a word gets hyphenated at the wrong place.

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/4/7 Werner LEMBERG : >> #(define-public (default-repetition-function previous-chord new-chord) >>     ... build a music expression...) >> #(ly:parser-repetition-name parser "&") >> #(ly:parser-repetition-function parser default-repetition-function) > > Nice idea! OK, I believe we've reached a

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Piero, we must say breaking algorhythm is far better than Finale's (the problem being that manual tweaking is *much* harder) ?? I actually find the opposite... Finale's manual breaking system is more difficult and less flexible than Lilypond's. In my Lilypond scores, I simply have a man

Re: Staff lines running past final bar on staff

2009-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
To solve this problem, you first have to figure out that it has to do with the key signature (comment out the key signature in the ossia stave to see that the problem disappears). Once you have realized that, you have to figure out how to get rid of the extra key signature indication at the end

Re: LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-08 Thread Simon Bailey
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 02:39:14PM +0200, Simon Bailey wrote: #(ly:set-option 'midi-extension "midi") i couldn't find this in the documentation -- shouldn't it be in there somewhere? Patches accepted. patch against this afternoon's git attached. also included a patch for the german trans

Re: LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-08 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 02:39:14PM +0200, Simon Bailey wrote: > > On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:32, Thomas Scharkowski wrote: >> some time ago the default midi extension for windows was changed to >> "mid". >> How can change it back to "midi"? > #(ly:set-option 'midi-extension "midi") I'm sure the reason

Re: significance of whitespace

2009-04-08 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/4/7 Werner LEMBERG : > >>> Can be typed pretty rapidly too: hold down right shift with your little >>> finger and <> fall under the index and middle fingers. >> ..not everyone uses us keyboard > > Exactly.  It's already a pain to type `{', `}', and `\' with a German > keyboard... ...or a Span

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Can you list those? > Kieren. > For example, lilypond was not able to print this note: ||O|| -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Real-World-Usage-tp22935326p22959696.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.c

Re: LilyPond midi extension

2009-04-08 Thread -Eluze
Simon Bailey-2 wrote: > >>> #(ly:set-option 'midi-extension "midi") > would it be advisable to add the other possibibility to achieve this - namely when you invoke lilypond from a command line: lilypond … -dmidi-extension=midi [ | mid | anyExtension] yourFile.ly these options can be found wi

RE: Staff lines running past final bar on staff

2009-04-08 Thread Nick Payne
Thanks. Fixes the problem. Nick > -Original Message- > From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se] > Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2009 00:53 > To: Nick Payne > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Staff lines running past final bar on staff > > To solve this problem, you first

Re: How to chop a slur over a rest in a 1. volta repeat

2009-04-08 Thread Mark Polesky
(moved from bug-lilypond to lilypond-user) Here's another solution. The only issue is that I don't know how to configure it so that you can modify extra-x-padding and extra-y-padding on-the-fly. Anyone? - Mark \version "2.13.0" \pointAndClickOff #(define (whiteout-volta-stil grob) (

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread MonAmiPierrot
Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi Piero, > >> we must say breaking algorhythm is far better than Finale's >> (the problem being that manual tweaking is *much* harder) > > ?? I actually find the opposite... Finale's manual breaking system is > more difficult and less flexible than Lilypond's. >

MusicXML Export

2009-04-08 Thread John Hopkins
We are looking at possibly using Lilypond, especially for its nice music typesetting and Unicode text support. However, we would absolutely need it to not only import XML but export it as well. The reason for this is that we want to export the music and the Unicode lyric text, etc. to a Web

Re: MusicXML Export

2009-04-08 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi John, On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hopkins wrote: > We are looking at possibly using Lilypond, > especially for its nice music typesetting > and Unicode text support. However, we > would absolutely need it to not only import > XML but export it as well. The reason for > this is that we

LaissezVibrer tie on single note of chord

2009-04-08 Thread nick . payne
Is this possible without faking the chord by creating two voices? I tried putting the laissezVibrer command against a single note of the chord but nothing displays. relative c' { laissezVibrer > } Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-use

Re: LaissezVibrer tie on single note of chord

2009-04-08 Thread nick . payne
E-mail seems to have corrupted my test code: relative c' { } On Thu 09/04/09 10:01 AM , nick.pa...@internode.on.net sent: Is this possible without faking the chord by creating two voices? I tried putting the laissezVibrer command against a single note of the chord but nothing displays. r

Re: Real-world usage of Lilypond

2009-04-08 Thread Wei-Wei Guo
Hi Kieren, Thanks. I think maybe I know how to do now. I've been looking into the link several times, but never gotten any sense. My problem might be too unfamiliar with Lilypond. PS. Why doesn's Lilypond provide a easy-to-use mechanism for inputing music elements, like E major key signature or

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, For example, lilypond was not able to print this note: ||O|| You mean like this? <> =) Kieren.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-08 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi, > >> For example, lilypond was not able to print this note: >> ||O|| > > You mean like this? > Yes. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Real-World-Usage-tp22935326p22963782.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archi

Re: Real-world usage of Lilypond

2009-04-08 Thread Tim McNamara
On Apr 8, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Wei-Wei Guo wrote: Hi Kieren, Thanks. I think maybe I know how to do now. I've been looking into the link several times, but never gotten any sense. My problem might be too unfamiliar with Lilypond. PS. Why doesn's Lilypond provide a easy-to-use mechanism for

move lyrics closer

2009-04-08 Thread James E. Bailey
I want to move lyrics closer to each other. I've tried \layout {\context { \Lyrics \override #'baseline-skip = #-55 } } and it's not working for me. I'm sure I've just got the wrong context somewhere. Can someone point me to the right way? James E. Bailey

Re: Real-world usage of Lilypond

2009-04-08 Thread Wei-Wei Guo
Tim McNamara 写道: PS. Why doesn's Lilypond provide a easy-to-use mechanism for inputing music elements, like E major key signature or quaver. It will make Lilypond not only a powerful tool for engraving music script, but also a tool for textbook. Many of these things are very easy to input o