Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Graham Percival
No, but we will in two months plus three days. I'll keep a reminder about this thread for that time. Cheers, - Graham On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:00:02PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > I think there are a couple of memorable quotes here for the website... > Do we now have a team that takes car

Re: left aligned tempo markings different over multimeasure rests

2009-04-03 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/4/2 Paul Scott : > version 2,21,2 > > When creating a score and parts I have not found a reliable way to cause > markup like tempo indications to always appear at the left side of a measure > even when a particular part has a multimeasure rest at that location. > s1*0^\markup and \tempo and le

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op donderdag 02-04-2009 om 21:53 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Andrew Hawryluk: Hi Andrew, The full report is at > http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-4.html, but here's my > conclusion: > "At least for me, MIDI entry is much faster than typing the pitches > and durations myself. That's

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Johan Vromans
Andrew Hawryluk writes: > http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-4.html How did you make the image of the LilyPond Händel score? It suffers from very thick vertical lines, similar to the Evince/PDF bug that has been discussed here several times. It may turn readers away from LP. -- Johan

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/4/3 Johan Vromans : > Andrew Hawryluk writes: > >> http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-4.html > > How did you make the image of the LilyPond Händel score? It suffers > from very thick vertical lines, similar to the Evince/PDF bug that has > been discussed here several times. > > It ma

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op donderdag 02-04-2009 om 18:00 uur [tijdzone -0300], schreef Han-Wen Nienhuys: > I think there are a couple of memorable quotes here for the website... Indeed, thanks for all the praise! For sure its more fun to read than eg http://lwn.net/Articles/326698/ > Do we now have a team that takes c

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Johan Vromans wrote: Andrew Hawryluk writes: http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-4.html How did you make the image of the LilyPond Händel score? It suffers from very thick vertical lines, similar to the Evince/PDF bug that has been discussed here several times. It may turn

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/4/3 Jan Nieuwenhuizen : > Op donderdag 02-04-2009 om 18:00 uur [tijdzone -0300], schreef Han-Wen > Nienhuys: > >> I think there are a couple of memorable quotes here for the website... > > Indeed, thanks for all the praise!  For sure its more fun to read than > eg http://lwn.net/Articles/32669

RE: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Nick Payne
> -Original Message- > From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On > Behalf Of Jan Nieuwenhuizen > Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 19:59 > To: Andrew Hawryluk > Cc: Laura Conrad; lilypond-user@gnu.org; Ni

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Nick Payne wrote: ... That's a real interesting report!. You note that entering chords in lilypond is real slow as compared to using MIDI entry. While that's no surprise, I wonder if there's anything that we can or should do about it. Typing <> is just real awkward... Try setting guitar sco

my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Phillips
Greetings, If your objection to LWN is re: someone else's comment on my articles, then that's fine with me. But if anyone has a problem with my articles per se I'd prefer they take it up with me, not with my publishers. Of course it should be obvious from these articles just how I feel about

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-03 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Andrew" == Andrew Hawryluk writes: Andrew> The full report is at Andrew> http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-4.html, but here's my Andrew> conclusion: Andrew> "At least for me, MIDI entry is much faster than typing the pitches Andrew> and durations myself. I p

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 03-04-2009 om 13:21 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentin Villenave: > Count me in! Yay, independent informed comments! /me hits ^R :-) Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org __

Re: my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-03 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 03-04-2009 om 07:44 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Dave Phillips: Hi Dave, > If your objection to LWN is re: someone else's comment on my articles Yeah, that's it. Somehow, whenever you write a fine piece on or even mentioning Lily, there are uninformed comments that "need" to be rep

test files for musicxml

2009-04-03 Thread Laura Conrad
There's a site called that has a lot of lead sheets in both PDF and musicxml. The one I looked at first (Edith Piaf's _La vie en rose_) might show up some problems with the musicxml2ly import of both chords and lyrics. -- Laura (

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread David Stocker
Please see this picture of what it looks like when I'm hand-writing music with repeated chords. http://notesettersinc.com/Hal_Leonard_Project-1.html Notice that I don't write out each repeated chord in the manuscript. It's understood by the editors and engravers that the "|" means simply "pri

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/4/3 Jonathan Kulp : > What's nice about Lilypond from my "composer's" point of view is that it's > gotten me back to writing music with pencil and paper instead of doing it in > Finale. I've realized for a while that in some pieces Finale was making me > lazy as a composer (and the same happe

Re: my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/4/3 Dave Phillips : > If your objection to LWN is re: someone else's comment on my articles, then > that's fine with me. But if anyone has a problem with my articles per se I'd > prefer they take it up with me, not with my publishers. Not at all. It's just some comments that (by design, I thi

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Notice that I don't write out each repeated chord in the manuscript. > It's understood by the editors and engravers that the "|" means > simply "print the previous chord again". It would be great if there > was a shorthand for this in LilyPond code for situations I've asked for that feature alr

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Werner LEMBERG wrote: Notice that I don't write out each repeated chord in the manuscript. It's understood by the editors and engravers that the "|" means simply "print the previous chord again". It would be great if there was a shorthand for this in LilyPond code for situations I've ask

Re: my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson
There's been quite some bashing on Sibelius from the LilyPond side as well, so we should probably not complain too much. I think we can agree that both LilyPond and Sibelius are among the better options when it comes to typesetting quality, right? /Mats Valentin Villenave wrote: 2009/4/3

Re: my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-03 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Valentin Villenave wrote: > What's the phrase already? First they ignore you... You have forgotten the positive ending of that phrase ... :-) "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi ___ li

Re: my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-03 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Mats" == Mats Bengtsson writes: Mats> I think we can agree that both LilyPond and Sibelius are Mats> among the better options when it comes to typesetting Mats> quality, right? Sibelius is certainly not one of the better options for establishing communication with free softwar

Re: my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-03 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 03-04-2009 om 15:50 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentin Villenave: Hi Valentin, > On a personal note: LOL, hilarious. Thanks Valentin. We should have added this with much pump and circumstance to our new website/what users think page two days ago :-) Maybe next year? Greeting

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Mostly, in such situations, I let the text editor do the job. The > simplest solution is simply to use copy/paste, but many text editors > also allows you to define macros that can be useful in these > situations. This is error prone. In piano music, after, say, seven similar chords it suddenl

Re: test files for musicxml

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Scott
Laura Conrad wrote: There's a site called that has a lot of lead sheets in both PDF and musicxml. The one I looked at first (Edith Piaf's _La vie en rose_) might show up some problems with the musicxml2ly import of both chords and l

Re: my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-03 Thread Graham Percival
I really don't see anything in the comments that we need to be worried about. I mean, do you think that Microsoft programmers freak out when they read (-1, troll) comments on slashdot? If there were intelligent, well-argued comments on LWN dissing lilypond, I might care, but I haven't seen any ye

Re: test files for musicxml

2009-04-03 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 3. April 2009 schrieb Laura Conrad: > There's a site called that has a lot of > lead sheets in both PDF and musicxml. The one I looked at first > (Edith Piaf's _La vie en rose

Re: my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-03 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 03-04-2009 om 23:27 uur [tijdzone +0800], schreef Graham Percival: > I really don't see anything in the comments that we need to be > worried about. You're probably right. I have a hard time getting used to uninformed posts on lwn. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The mus

Re: Problem with barre music function

2009-04-03 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/3 Nick Payne : > If that's the case, then the only solution I can see is the rather ugly hack > of waiting until the score is complete so I can see where the line breaks > fall, and then taking any spanner that has this problem and putting > \stopTextSpan on the note after the note where

Re: increasing the distance between tie and note generally

2009-04-03 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/3 Stefan Thomas : > Dear Neil, > I tried it with > \relative { c1 ~ c >  \override Tie #'(details ratio 1.2) \override Tie #'(details heigth-limit 13) >  c ~ c } > but without sucess! Overrides need an equals sign, even if the properties are nested. \override Tie #'(details ratio) = #1.2

RE: Problem with barre music function

2009-04-03 Thread Nick Payne
> -Original Message- > From: Neil Puttock [mailto:n.putt...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2009 07:53 > To: Nick Payne > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Problem with barre music function > > 2009/4/3 Nick Payne : > > > If that's the case, then the only solution I can see is

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius (was Review of Valentin's Opera)

2009-04-03 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
Thanks for catching this! Both have been fixed. Andrew On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2009/4/3 Johan Vromans : >> Andrew Hawryluk writes: >> >>> http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-4.html >> >> How did you make the image of the LilyPond Händel score? It suffers

Re: Music Glossary - 1.64 Concert Pitch (2.12.2)

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Scott
On Apr 3, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message <7ca3d5a30904031519ya3b89hb87cf8f81a544...@mail.gmail.com>, Neil Puttock writes 2009/4/3 Anthony W. Youngman : In message , Anthony W. Youngman writes Ow! Sorry, reading this was painful (I play the trombone, as many

Re: increasing the distance between tie and note generally

2009-04-03 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Neil, thanks! Now I understand. 2009/4/3 Neil Puttock : > 2009/4/3 Stefan Thomas : >> Dear Neil, >> I tried it with >> \relative { c1 ~ c >>  \override Tie #'(details ratio 1.2) \override Tie #'(details heigth-limit >> 13) >>  c ~ c } >> but without sucess! > > Overrides need an equals sign,