Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-14 Thread Philip Thomas
Peter Wannemacher wrote (13.06.2012 17:52): >I would like to contribute to this cheat-sheet. >I would be pleased to create ideas or comment on those of others. Excellent! I hope to make some sort of draft available in the next couple of weeks to get the ball rolling from my point of view. Che

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Peter Wannemacher sotw
> >On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: >> If that's correct, I guess your initial "thanks, but no thanks" >> is directed more to the possibility of my becoming a more >> serious contributor, > >Yes. > >> I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Philip Thomas
On 13.06.2012 at 14:46, Colin Campbell wrote: >I'd be willing to give you what help I can, Philip. My doc skills are >rusty but I can usually get changes done, and if we get stumped, I can >probably point you in a useful direction. Most of my help will likely >be encouraging emails, but by

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2012-06-13 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-06-13 05:07 AM, Philip Thomas wrote: I wasn't expecting this to be a tension-free exercise, especially having followed some other recent threads with interest. Nor am I going to deflate if an expanded cheatsheet doesn't materialize or doesn't attract any interest. I'm not especially toug

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Philip Thomas
Blast! Resubmitted with apologies -- sent this a short while ago with an inept subject heading. Sorry, Philip _ Graham Percival wrote: > I cannot in good conscience encourage anybody to become involved > with lilypond development at the present time unless they

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Philip Thomas wrote: >>On 13 June 2012 at 08:53, Janek Warchoł wrote: > >>As for mentoring, i could help you a bit, but not very much.  And i > >>cannot promise anything since i am really busy for the next month :( >>If you find the CG hard, it may be wise to wait

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2012-06-13 Thread Philip Thomas
>On 13 June 2012 at 08:53, Janek Warchoł wrote: >As for mentoring, i could help you a bit, but not very much. And i >cannot promise anything since i am really busy for the next month :( >If you find the CG hard, it may be wise to wait until things get >better organised. I don't think I'll need

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:25:27AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> While I applaud the magnitude of your conscience, I consider your sense >> of responsibility overblown. I would have no qualms encouraging people >> into trying to get involved. > > That's because you are

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2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > [...] > Or, to put it in a more cold-blooded way: I want to get the > reputation of treating lilypond volunteers well, since that will > encourage more people to volunteer.  By discouraging people from > having a hard time now, I'm gambling

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Philip Thomas wrote: >>On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: > >>> I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded cheatsheet on >>> my own account and float it (e.g. in PDF format) on the user list. > >>On Wednesday 13 June 2012 at

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2012-06-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:25:27AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > While I applaud the magnitude of your conscience, I consider your sense > of responsibility overblown. I would have no qualms encouraging people > into trying to get involved. That's because you are an excellent programmer, mathemat

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
>On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: >> I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded cheatsheet on >> my own account and float it (e.g. in PDF format) on the user list. >On Wednesday 13 June 2012 at 01:10, Graham Percival wrote: >ok. It won't become part of

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58:37PM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: >> >On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas >> >wrote: >> >> I should mention that I'm no programmer. (And I wouldn't be offended >> >> by a polite "thanks, but no >> >> thanks".) > > I'm afraid that

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/6/12 Philip Thomas : > -- The Kainhofer cheatsheet costs money (albeit not much money), but > LilyPond and all its documentation, as we all know and greatly appreciate, > comes free. A nicely coloured printed Kainhofer cheatsheet costs money, but its code is creativecommons-attribution-noncom

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: > If that's correct, I guess your initial "thanks, but no thanks" > is directed more to the possibility of my becoming a more > serious contributor, Yes. > I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded > cheatsheet on my own

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
>On Tuesday 12 June 2012 23:41, Graham Percival >wrote: >I'm afraid that my first reaction is "thanks, but no thanks". See below. >Be warned that the CG is not actively maintained. I estimate that >approximately 20% of the advice in the CG misleading, and 10% of the advice >is harmful. It wa

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58:37PM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas > >wrote: > >> I should mention that I'm no programmer. (And I wouldn't be offended > >> by a polite "thanks, but no > >> thanks".) I'm afraid that my first reaction is "thanks, but no

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Philip Thomas wrote: > I'll look at the CG. But would an expanded cheatsheet would be useful? You tell me :) I suppose that it will be, but i'm not using it for some time, so i'm not the best guy to judge. > And is it the kind of thing that a comparative beginne

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
>On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas >wrote: >> I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might >> it be worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved >> without over-burdening it with detail? If it would help for me as a >> comparative beginner t

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
>>On 12 Jun 2012, at 20:46, "Philip Thomas" wrote: >> I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might >> it be worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved >> without over-burdening it with detail? >On 12 June 2012, at 21:58, James wrote: >http://www.ed

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas wrote: > I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might it be > worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved without > over-burdening it with detail? If it would help for me as a comparative > beginner to do s

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread James
On 12 Jun 2012, at 20:46, "Philip Thomas" wrote: -- -- > I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might it be > worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved without > over-burdening it with detail? http://www.edition-kainhofer.com/en/lilypond/details/211

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
>> Janek Warcho? writes: >> >>> I'm not sure. This is a music notation question: "what's this?". >>> Lily documentation aims to answer different kind of questions: "how do >>> i engrave this?" and it assumes that the user knows what's what he >>> wants. >> Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: >> She wants

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread MING TSANG
Thank you Janek, Phil, Jan & Jay.  BTW Ming is a male name.   Blessing in+, Ming. > > From: Janek Warchoł >To: Phil Holmes >Cc: Jan Nieuwenhuizen ; MING TSANG ; >lilypond-usermailinglist >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:43:01 AM &g

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_value lol! look at the flagged notes: some are from Lily, some from Sibelius :P ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/l

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Phil Holmes
Still the same answer: a breve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_whole_note -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: MING TSANG To: lilypond-usermailinglist Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: transcribe notes Sorry, forgot to include sample .png file

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2012-06-12 Thread MING TSANG
Sorry, forgot to include sample .png file.   Blessing in+, - Forwarded Message - >From: MING TSANG >To: lilypond-usermailinglist >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:42:50 AM >Subject: transcribe notes > > >Hi, lily users: > > >I am transcribe a music score

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Jan Nieuwenhuizen" To: "Janek Warchoł" Cc: "MING TSANG" ; "lilypond-usermailinglist" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: Re: transcribe notes Janek Warchoł writes: I'm not sure. This is a

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Janek Warchoł writes: > I'm not sure. This is a music notation question: "what's this?". > Lily documentation aims to answer different kind of questions: "how do > i engrave this?" and it assumes that the user knows what's what he > wants. She wants a certain type of note. Chances are that she

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Jay Anderson writes: > >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, MING TSANG wrote: >>> I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with >>> vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to >>> ge

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jay Anderson writes: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, MING TSANG wrote: >> I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with >> vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to >> generate it? > > Most likely a breve: { c\breve } We now have two h

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Jay Anderson
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, MING TSANG wrote: > I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with > vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to > generate it? Most likely a breve: { c\breve } -Jay _

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:42 PM, MING TSANG wrote: > Hi, lily users: > > I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with > vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to > generate it? I suppose it's a breve note. It can have single or double li

transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread MING TSANG
Hi, lily users: I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with  vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to generate it?   Blessing in+, Ming. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org h