Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-15 Thread andersvi
> "a" == andersvi writes: a> ... but how to add them at the right place? Like always, reading the manual may be useful... Just glanced through the section on Ossia staves in lilypond-notation.info, and guess what i saw? alignAboveContext = #"firstStave" - to set a stave above a previo

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-15 Thread andersvi
Heres an update with some typos fixed. Rach_Praeludium_Cmoll.ly Description: Binary data Theres the issue of an effective way to add the 2 extra staves in the Tempo primo section. The way its done now makes it difficult to connect the arpeggios in mms. 52 & 54. I guess it has something todo w

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-15 Thread andersvi
> "X" == Xavier Scheuer writes: X> You have an "unwanted extra space" added at the end of the line X> before the break when adding the new staves. Use \once \set X> Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible X> just after you \new Staff { within your tempoP

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-15 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 15 November 2010 13:00, wrote: > > Heres a version of the prelude: > > > > Any comments and suggestions for improvements are of course very > welcome. Hi! It seems nice (although I'm not a pianist). > Especially concerning the shaky staff-handling introducing the "tutti" > or "Tempo Primo"

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-15 Thread andersvi
Heres a version of the prelude: Rach_Praeludium_Cmoll.ly Description: Binary data Any comments and suggestions for improvements are of course very welcome. Especially concerning the shaky staff-handling introducing the "tutti" or "Tempo Primo" ending section. And also the fitting of staffs on

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-04 Thread andersvi
heres the bug report just sent (wo. png-files): \version "2.13.39" %% rests in one voice crossing other voice << {c4 c}\\ { r8 c'' r c''} >> <> %% Rests in mixed (rests+notes) columns don't obey Rest 'direction = #UP: << {c4 c}\\ {\override Rest #'direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''} >> <> %% wan

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-04 Thread andersvi
K> if you send a short example and desired behavior as a bug report Ill set something up. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-03 Thread Keith E OHara
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 09:01:03 -0700, wrote: "K" == Keith E OHara writes: K> It is less clear if the use of Stem 'direction to place rests, in K> the notes-plus-rests case, was intentional. Shouldn't the rests by default be placed where the voice goes in the column - odds up, evens dow

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-03 Thread andersvi
Keith, thanks for the pointers, and a nice solution using stemNeutral. > "K" == Keith E OHara writes: K> It is less clear if the use of Stem 'direction to place rests, in K> the notes-plus-rests case, was intentional. Shouldn't the rests by default be placed where the voice goes in

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-02 Thread Keith E OHara
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:19:53 -0700, wrote: Yes, thanks. The problem is getting at the automatic behaviour which is already available. I beleive its a bug, that \stemDown obstructs explicit coming later. \override Rest #'direction = #UP Anders, LilyPond does obey a simultaneous \stemDow

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:39 PM, wrote: > I beleive its a bug, that \stemDown obstructs explicit coming later. >   \override Rest #'direction = #UP > Or perhaps ive misunderstood something in the way this works.  Happy for > any pointers towards clearifying stuff. Greetings, sorry for not having

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-02 Thread andersvi
> "E" == -Eluze writes: E> you can also override the rest's position: Yes, thanks. The problem is getting at the automatic behaviour which is already available. I beleive its a bug, that \stemDown obstructs explicit coming later. \override Rest #'direction = #UP Or perhaps ive mi

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-02 Thread -Eluze
you can also override the rest's position: \new Staff << \new Voice { \voiceTwo \override Voice.Rest #'staff-position = #3.7 \musicA \revert Voice.Rest #'staff-position \musicA } \new Voice { \voiceOne \musicB \musicB } >> -- View this message in

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-02 Thread andersvi
> "K" == Keith E OHara writes: K> On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:25:12 -0700, wrote: >> Q: How Can i separate handling of rests from stem-directions in >> polyphonic voice-handling? >> Hello Anders, K>I would also have expected Rest 'direction to do what you K> asked.

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-02 Thread andersvi
> James Bailey writes: > You can always do \voiceOne \stemDown Does the below work in your lilypond? Which version are you using? \new Staff { << \new Voice {\voiceOne \stemDown r8 c'' r c'' } \new Voice {\voiceTwo c4 c} >> } > What's odd? It looks normal to me. The p

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-02 Thread andersvi
Hi Keith. Thanks for your answer. > "K" == Keith E OHara writes: K> I recommend that you continue as you are with Rest 'direction, K> and whenever Lilypond puts the rests in the wrong places, use K> pitched rests {f''\rest c'' f''\rest c'' } Yes, i know about the explicit possi

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-01 Thread James Bailey
On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:14 PM, ander...@notam02.no wrote: > Hello. Im doing some testing on Rachmaninovs C-minor praeludium. > > Q: How Can i separate handling of rests from stem-directions in > polyphonic voice-handling? > > Id actually want the default behavior of \voiceOne, except for pointing

Re: rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-01 Thread Keith E OHara
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:25:12 -0700, wrote: Q: How Can i separate handling of rests from stem-directions in polyphonic voice-handling? Hello Anders, I would also have expected Rest 'direction to do what you asked. It does change the placement of rests in columns with only rests, but wh

rests in polyphonic music - 'stems down, rests up'

2010-11-01 Thread andersvi
Hello. Im doing some testing on Rachmaninovs C-minor praeludium. Q: How Can i separate handling of rests from stem-directions in polyphonic voice-handling? Id actually want the default behavior of \voiceOne, except for pointing the stems down. << \new Voice {\voiceTwo \override Rest #'directi