> OK. Did you actually do benchmarking or similar?
No. I was talking theoretically. However, precompiling LilyPondTool would not
make much gain on startup speed: it mainly uses other libraries.
Bert
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On Tuesday 12 December 2006 15:53, Bertalan Fodor wrote:
> Certainly not. Actually the java code is compiled to machine code at
> runtime. This is slower than precompiling, but the compiled code can run
> faster than its precompiled counterpart, because the runtime machine
> will have information a
hats just a programming problem with jEdit I guess
> (that it should try to bring the whole 100MB file into memory at once).
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ts just a programming problem with jEdit I guess
(that it should try to bring the whole 100MB file into memory at once).
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
I've never seen a Java application run fast on Windows, ever, in fact they
are so slow that they are unbearable to use.
Is that Microsoft's JVM, or Sun's?
And it wouldn't surprise me if there was code in Windo
Well, jEdit is not fast. But it's LilyPondTool is. :-) Try it :-)
I've never seen a Java application run fast on Windows, ever, in fact they
are so slow that they are unbearable to use.
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> typical issue being that the person using Java objects still writes their
> code very procedure-oriented, without properly switching to the object
> oriented paradigm).
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> -Original Message-
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ocedure-oriented, without properly switching to
the object oriented paradigm).
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Subject: Re: lilypond and editors
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bertalan Fo
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bertalan Fodor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Certainly not. Actually the java code is compiled to machine code at
runtime. This is slower than precompiling, but the compiled code can
run faster than its precompiled counterpart, because the runtime
machine will have
Certainly not. Actually the java code is compiled to machine code at
runtime. This is slower than precompiling, but the compiled code can run
faster than its precompiled counterpart, because the runtime machine
will have information about how often a certain part of the code is
called, and thos
On Saturday 09 December 2006 10:27, Bertalan Fodor wrote:
> Well, what is extremely important: development time is so little in Java
> and with JEdit (compared to any alternatives), that I won't change this
> platform. The price is that it will remain slow if you don't have much
> memory in the mac
Hello list, hello Arjan,
You wrote:
> Remember: While all editors can save your files, only one can save
> your soul.
> (Per Abrahamsen on alt.religion.emacs)
In deed, what he means, is the vi.
:)
Best Regards Roland
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On 7 dec 2006, at 22:09, Thomas Scharkowski wrote:
Just curious:
what's wrong with jEdit?
Thomas
Remember: While all editors can save your files, only one can save
your soul.
(Per Abrahamsen on alt.religion.emacs)
Arjan
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confrey wrote:
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tahnks, but I don't understand what you mean; what have I to install?
kate only? Please be patient, I wait your reply, thanks
confrey
Here are the directions for installing the Linux/KDE Kate plugins (the
Lilypond plugin is included in a tarball that contains a whole l
"Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It's like when I go shooting. I use a rifle left-handed because if I
> try it right-handed (I am right-handed, by the way) I just CANNOT
> SEE what I'm doing.
Probably because you're left-eyed, just like me? This is also a
problem when using a p
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Geoff
Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Often one can gain productivity by fitting his way of work to the editor :-)
Bert
Sometimes, yes. Often ... I don't know about that, and I'm not really
a fan of the idea. Tools exist for me; I don't exist for tools.
I'd
Well, what is extremely important: development time is so little in Java and
with JEdit (compared to any alternatives), that I won't change this platform.
The price is that it will remain slow if you don't have much memory in the
machine.
But for example compare the loading speed of LilyPondToo
Thank you for your answer Bertalan.
I'm CCing to the list because it is somehow related to the topic.
Valentin Villenave írta:
> Hi Bertalan,
>
> I would like to know how much localized is LilyPondTool, and if anyone
> can help you translating it. I can, for instance, contribute to
> correct th
Yes, opening the documentation needs to give more memory to jEdit... If
you let it use more, that is you run jEdit with the command
java -Xmx256m -jar jedit.jar
there will be no slow instances even when you open the regression test
document.
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author only makes updates once a year or so, but
> > for now I'm productive with
> > it.
> >
> > jEdit had a lot going for it functionality-wise,
> > but it needs some work
> > performance-wise and installation-wise for
> > Windows machines from my
> &
needs some work
> performance-wise and installation-wise for
> Windows machines from my
> experiences, maybe others like it on Windows but
> for me it did not work out.
> I think it sould be changed to install all of
> it's own dependencies itself,
> so at least u
For me, I couldn't really get started w/ Lilypond until I installed jEdit
and LilyPondTool.
I'm running Win XP and I already had cygwin and JRE installed. jEdit is a
bit slow to load and I haven't tried other editors to compare, but I like
LilyPondTool and look forward to the Christmas present B
ation-wise for Windows machines from my
experiences, maybe others like it on Windows but for me it did not work out.
I think it sould be changed to install all of it's own dependencies itself,
so at least users can begin using it immediately.
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On Dec 8, 2006, at 2:40 AM, Bertalan Fodor wrote:
So I would like to encourage anybody to give jEdit at least a try,
I'd rather say some tries in regular intervals :-)
LilyPondTool is under continous development nowadays and it
evolves. Besides this a very exciting new feature is under te
> So I would like to encourage anybody to give jEdit at least a try,
I'd rather say some tries in regular intervals :-)
LilyPondTool is under continous development nowadays and it evolves. Besides
this a very exciting new feature is under testing now, which will make another
big step in effici
Frédéric Chiasson kirjoitti:
Well, I never tried jEdit on Mac. But I tried it on PC and the
LilypondTool didn't work out and I had so many problems that I
discarded it after a week.
On the other hand, I have used jEdit with LilypondTool on PC (SuSE and
Ubuntu linux) for over two years on almost
Should you have any problems I'm here to help ;-) Remember to look at
http://lilypondtool.organum.hu
Bert
Frédéric Chiasson írta:
Well, I never tried jEdit on Mac. But I tried it on PC and the
LilypondTool didn't work out and I had so many problems that I
discarded it after a week.
Maybe I
Well, I never tried jEdit on Mac. But I tried it on PC and the LilypondTool
didn't work out and I had so many problems that I discarded it after a week.
Maybe I should give it a second shot. It migth work better on Mac OS.
Thanks for the comments,
Frédéric
2006/12/7, Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PR
Often one can gain productivity by fitting his way of work to the editor :-)
Bert
Sometimes, yes. Often ... I don't know about that, and I'm not really
a fan of the idea. Tools exist for me; I don't exist for tools.
I don't mean to discourage anyone from trying jEdit. I did. I prefer
something
Often one can gain productivity by fitting his way of work to the editor :-)
Bert
So what's wrong with jEdit? Nothing, if it fits the way you work.
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On 12/7/06, Thomas Scharkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just curious:
what's wrong with jEdit?
Thomas
Editors are one of those things that really depend on personal taste.
It may just be that I've been using emacs for too long, but jEdit
drove me nuts. Others have their favorite way of doing
Just curious:
what's wrong with jEdit?
Thomas
> Hi everyone,
>
> On the same subject, I would like to propose an improvement for the Lilypond
> editor on Mac OS (mine is 10.4). It would be really nice if we could point
> and click on an error message and the code creating the error would be
> high
I run lilypond under windows Xp, and actually I´m using a very naice
editor (notepad II) It works excellent, whit all the features needed
for lilypond.
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Hi everyone,
On the same subject, I would like to propose an improvement for the Lilypond
editor on Mac OS (mine is 10.4). It would be really nice if we could point
and click on an error message and the code creating the error would be
highlighted. Or, an easier thing to program, a line and chara
confrey wrote:
Hi everybody,
I know some text editors have a support for lilypond; I'd like to know
what's a fine editor for lilypond, and if it is possible to customize
gedit (sintax highlighting and statement recognition adn completation).
bye
confrey
kate with colored syntax (downloadabl
confrey wrote:
Hi everybody,
I know some text editors have a support for lilypond; I'd like to know
what's a fine editor for lilypond, and if it is possible to customize
gedit (sintax highlighting and statement recognition adn completation).
bye
confrey
kate with colored syntax (downloadabl
If you are on Windows, I created this syntax highlighter for the Context
editor:
www.context.cx
Here is the highlighter plug in I created:
http://forum.context.cx/index.php?topic=1396.0
First download/install Context editor, then download/copy the highlighter
file to the appropriate directory
Before choosing an editor to work with, do not forget to look at the
Flash demos of LilyPondTool, especially:
http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/tut03-myfirstsong.htm
and
http://www.organum.hu/126.0.html
Then you can choose any other editors, but keep in mind what you lose :-)
Bert
ery satisfied with it.
Rick
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Could you please propose an updated formulation to include in the manual.
/Mats
Bertalan Fodor wrote:
However, this section is not quite up-to-date. Especially regarding my
child, LilyPondTool :-) Look at http://lilypondtool.organum.hu (Demo
and Documentation/Flash tutorials would give you a
However, this section is not quite up-to-date. Especially regarding my
child, LilyPondTool :-) Look at http://lilypondtool.organum.hu (Demo and
Documentation/Flash tutorials would give you an impression of what it does)
Bert
Mats Bengtsson írta:
There's a section on "Editor support" in the ma
There's a section on "Editor support" in the manual, did you read that?
Also, you could try to search the mailing list archives to get even more
hints.
/Mats
confrey wrote:
Hi everybody,
I know some text editors have a support for lilypond; I'd like to know
what's a fine editor for lilypond
Hi everybody,
I know some text editors have a support for lilypond; I'd like to know
what's a fine editor for lilypond, and if it is possible to customize
gedit (sintax highlighting and statement recognition adn completation).
bye
confrey
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