Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Kieren, > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: >> Hi David, >> >>> Further down in that thread is an implementation of shorten-pair with >>> hairpins: >>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 12:07 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: > Hi David: > > 2016-10-11 15:51 GMT+02:00 David Sumbler : > > > > The reasons for the long gap were (a) moving house in February and, > > more importantly (b) feeling very discouraged by the apparent > > unpredictability of hairpin lengths

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi David: 2016-10-11 15:51 GMT+02:00 David Sumbler : > The reasons for the long gap were (a) moving house in February and, > more importantly (b) feeling very discouraged by the apparent > unpredictability of hairpin lengths in Lilypond, despite all Harm's > valiant efforts. sorry for not being m

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On Thu, 2016-10-13 at 23:54 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 13.10.2016 14:41, David Sumbler wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 14:10 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > > > > But I realise that often what I need in order to get > > > > satisfactory > > > > h

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On 13.10.2016 14:41, David Sumbler wrote: On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 14:10 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi David, But I realise that often what I need in order to get satisfactory hairpins is more space between the note heads, and simply moving the ends of the hairpin does not reposition the rele

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 14:10 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > > > > > But I realise that often what I need in order to get satisfactory > > hairpins is more space between the note heads, and simply moving > > the > > ends of the hairpin does not reposition the relevant notes. > Have yo

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi David, > But I realise that often what I need in order to get satisfactory > hairpins is more space between the note heads, and simply moving the > ends of the hairpin does not reposition the relevant notes. Have you tried adjusting the minimum-length? %%% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.18.2" \l

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Thanks for this and other replies to my original query.  The routine works well. It does what it says on the can - moving the ends of the hairpin - and that will be very useful. But I realise that often what I need in order to get satisfactory hairpins is more space between the note heads, and si

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi Kieren, On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > >> Further down in that thread is an implementation of shorten-pair with >> hairpins: >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/msg00277.html > > The $1,000,000 Question: Why isn’t this in the dist

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi David, > Further down in that thread is an implementation of shorten-pair with > hairpins: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/msg00277.html The $1,000,000 Question: Why isn’t this in the distro? =) Thanks for this! Kieren. Kieren MacM

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi, On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:07 AM, tisimst wrote: > David, > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Kieren MacMillan [via Lilypond] <[hidden > email]> wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> >> > Just so that I have as many weapons as possible at my disposal, are >> > there any other parameters which might dire

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

n I cooked up with more granular control of both ends of the hairpin: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/ msg00176.html It's not perfect, but might do the job for you. HTH, Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Controlling-hair

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi David, > Just so that I have as many weapons as possible at my disposal, are > there any other parameters which might directly affect the horizontal > position of the left-hand end and/or the right-hand end or a hairpin, > or its length? \after Hairpin.bound-padding Hairpin.X-offset Hairpin.ex

Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

After a 9 month gap, I have finally come back to Lilypond and will attempt to finish tweaking my string quartet score and parts.  I have installed v2.19.48, and I have run 'convert-ly' on my files. The reasons for the long gap were (a) moving house in February and, more importantly (b) feeling ver

Re: hairpin length

Hi, On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Simon, > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Simon Albrecht > wrote: >> On 18.06.2016 17:27, David Nalesnik wrote: >>> >>> (I would propose that bound-padding be redefined as a pair in the code >>> base. Broken-bound-padding, too

Re: hairpin length

Hi Simon, On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 18.06.2016 17:27, David Nalesnik wrote: >> >> (I would propose that bound-padding be redefined as a pair in the code >> base. Broken-bound-padding, too. The latter is not replaced with a >> broken-bound-padding-pair in this

Re: hairpin length

On 18.06.2016 17:27, David Nalesnik wrote: (I would propose that bound-padding be redefined as a pair in the code base. Broken-bound-padding, too. The latter is not replaced with a broken-bound-padding-pair in this code experiment, but that should be easily done.) Well, it should be pretty

Re: hairpin length

Hi, On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:39 PM, tisimst wrote: > Josh, > > On 6/13/16, Joshua Nichols [via Lilypond] > <[hidden email] > > wrote: > > > > > > ​> ​ > > The only way I know is to use a dynamics context and vary the length of > the > > spa

Re: hairpin length

This was discussed a while ago... more doing with the hairpin in relation to the dynamic. But it may help http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Dynamic-mark-at-the-end-of-a-bar-td177090.html or https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-05/msg00717.html HTH Stephen _

Re: hairpin length

roken hairpins (yet), but that can be done if needed. I just didn't have the time to work that out at the moment. Anyway, give it a try. When other dynamic text is involved, I noticed that the adjustments are a little off, but it still might do what you need for now. HTH, Abraham

Re: hairpin length

​> ​ The only way I know is to use a dynamics context and vary the length of the spacer rests the occur between the start and end of the hairpin. ​Thanks.​ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypo

Re: hairpin length

: Re: hairpin length > For the opening height: > ​>​ > \override Hairpin.height = 2 > > ​This is great... > > > For the length if it?s too short by default: > > \override Hairpin.minimum-length = 10​ > > This not the answer I'

Re: hairpin length

> For the opening height: > ​>​ > \override Hairpin.height = 2 > > ​This is great... > > > For the length if it?s too short by default: > > \override Hairpin.minimum-length = 10​ > > This not the answer I'm looking for. This also changes the length of the > hairpin and spacing inside the

Re: hairpin length (lilypond-user Digest, Vol 163, Issue 29)

On Sun 12 Jun 2016 at 23:51:43 (-0400), Joshua Nichols wrote: > ​> ​ > For the opening height: > ​>​ > \override Hairpin.height = 2 > > ​This is great... > > > For the length if it?s too short by default: > > \override Hairpin.minimum-length = 10​ > > This not the answer I'm looking for

Re: Controlling hairpin length

(if (and (not-note-column? bound-left) > (interval-sane? left-x-ext) > (> (abs (cdr left-x-ext)) > (ly:grob-property-data grob 'minimum-length))) > (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'minimum-length >(+ >

Re: Controlling hairpin length

Dear Harm and David, I find this whole thread rather helpful and have just copied the consolidated example as of Harm's last post into my personal snippet archive. Thank you guys, Michael -- Michael Gerdau email: m...@qata.de GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver signatur

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 11:15 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2016-01-21 16:54 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > > I have tried substituting \! for my \invP markings, and replacing my > > tweaked -\ten markings with standard -- marks. > > Please, tell me exactly how \ten is defined. > > Cheers, > Harm

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-21 16:54 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > I have tried substituting \! for my \invP markings, and replacing my > tweaked -\ten markings with standard -- marks. Please, tell me exactly how \ten is defined. Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing li

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 23:00 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > %% a helper: > #(define (look-up-for-parent name-symbol axis grob) > "Return the parent of @var{grob}, specified by it's @var{name-symbol} > in > axis @var{axis} of @var{grob}. If @var{grob} is already equal to the > grob > named @var{name-

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-19 13:53 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 01:27 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: >> 2016-01-19 1:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : >> > Hi David, >> > >> > 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : >> > >> >> After spending some hours trying to get to the bottom of this problem, >>

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 01:27 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2016-01-19 1:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > > Hi David, > > > > 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > > >> After spending some hours trying to get to the bottom of this problem, > > [...] > > > > Well, I spend some hours creating th

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-19 1:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > Hi David, > > 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > >> After spending some hours trying to get to the bottom of this problem, > [...] > > Well, I spend some hours creating the function(s) ;) > >> I narrowed it down to 3 different elements in my fil

Re: Controlling hairpin length

Hi David, 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > After spending some hours trying to get to the bottom of this problem, [...] Well, I spend some hours creating the function(s) ;) > I narrowed it down to 3 different elements in my files [...] > I feel > that ideally an improvement in an ar

Re: Controlling hairpin length

lt;< e1\fermata {s2..\> s8\!} >> | << b1\fermata {s2..\> s8\!} >> | My reason for using this was, again, to try to control the position of the end of the diminuendo hairpins. No doubt none of these 3 examples is very elegant, and they are very likely not the best way o

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-17 19:21 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > The only trouble is, I am getting a lot of compiler errors and warnings. > For each of the relevant layout blocks, I get: > > programming error: infinite rod > continuing, cross fingers > > and then numerous instances of: > > programming error: ignori

Re: Controlling hairpin length

It's true - your example, using the bar I included in my previous email, works fine. In my previous attempts at getting this to work with the whole quartet I had your 2 Scheme "define"s and the myHairpinMinimumLength definition in a file of defaults, which has an /include in my top file. In the

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-17 17:36 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > Thank you for the suggestion (below) for controlling the actual length > of hairpins. I am afraid it has taken until now for me to have an > opportunity to try it out in my string quartet. Unfortunately, I find > that it is only a partial success. > >

Re: Controlling hairpin length

Thank you for the suggestion (below) for controlling the actual length of hairpins. I am afraid it has taken until now for me to have an opportunity to try it out in my string quartet. Unfortunately, I find that it is only a partial success. Previously I had '\override Hairpin.minimum-length = #

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2015-12-12 22:35 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > 2015-12-12 17:46 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : >> Although I quite often find myself needing to use >> >> \override Voice.Hairpin.minimum-length = #2 >> >> or similar, I find that the results are unpredictable (to me!) >> >> Sometimes I have a very short hai

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On 12.12.2015 17:46, David Sumbler wrote: Although I quite often find myself needing to use \override Voice.Hairpin.minimum-length = #2 or similar, I find that the results are unpredictable (to me!) You’re not alone with the problem: …

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2015-12-12 17:46 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > Although I quite often find myself needing to use > > \override Voice.Hairpin.minimum-length = #2 > > or similar, I find that the results are unpredictable (to me!) > > Sometimes I have a very short hairpin, perhaps starting on a quaver and > ending on t

Controlling hairpin length

Although I quite often find myself needing to use \override Voice.Hairpin.minimum-length = #2 or similar, I find that the results are unpredictable (to me!) Sometimes I have a very short hairpin, perhaps starting on a quaver and ending on the next quaver. In the output such a hairpin sometimes

Minimum hairpin length

Good morning list, I can set Hairpin #'minimum-length and that is fine. However, if a note also has another dynamic, as in e.g. << c1 { s2\mp\< s2\> <>\! } >> the space that is reserved for the \< is also used up by the \mp, so a much shorter \< results. Is there a way to set a minimum fo

Re: Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

Hi Kieren! > Did my second (revised) response not solve your problem? > Yes, it solved my problem. But as you already mentioned, it's more of a not-so-much-liked workaround. As the (de-)crescendo isn't attached to the follow

Re: Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

Hi Thies, in the code snippet below the crescendo hairpin at repeat bar lines is a bit too long. Any workaround? Did my second (revised) response not solve your problem? Just curious, Kieren. __

Re: Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

From: "Thies Albrecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:23 PM Subject: Hairpin length at repeat bar lines Hi everybody, in the code snippet below the crescendo hairpin at repeat bar lines is a bit too long. Any workaround? \version "2.11.

Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

Hi everybody, in the code snippet below the crescendo hairpin at repeat bar lines is a bit too long. Any workaround? \version "2.11.63" \paper{ ragged-right=##t } \relative c '' { c1 \< \repeat volta 2 {c1 \!} } Kind regards, Thies -- GMX Download-Spiele: Preizsturz! Alle Puzzle-Spiele D

Re: Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

{ << c1 \new Voice { s2..\< s8\! } >> \break \bar ":|:" \repeat volta 2 {c1 \!} } } } % I'm really not sure why this solves the problem of the Hairpin length

Re: Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

Thies Albrecht wrote: Hi Kieren, hi list, the crescendo hairpin at repeat bar lines is a bit too long. Any workaround? \once \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #2.5 @Kieren: Yes, it helps... and no, it doesn't help... Using the proposed override the hairpin is shortened, b

Re: Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

Hi Kieren, hi list, > > the crescendo hairpin at repeat bar lines is a bit too long. Any > > workaround? > > \once \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #2.5 @Kieren: Yes, it helps... and no, it doesn't help... Using the proposed override the hairpin is shortened, but only in case there is no l

Re: Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

If you read the section on Dynamics in the Notation reference for version 2.11, you will find a "selected snippet" with the answer to your question. /Mats Thies Albrecht wrote: Hi everybody, in the code snippet below the crescendo hairpin at repeat bar lines is a bit too long. Any workarou

Re: Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

Hi Thies, the crescendo hairpin at repeat bar lines is a bit too long. Any workaround? \once \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #2.5 HTH! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond

Hairpin length at repeat bar lines

Hi everybody, in the code snippet below the crescendo hairpin at repeat bar lines is a bit too long. Any workaround? \version "2.11.63" \paper{ ragged-right=##t } \relative c '' { c1 \< \repeat volta 2 {c1 \!} } Kind regards, Thies -- "Feel free" - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Je

RE: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"?

I use this sort of construction (note-shorter-than-it-looks + hidden note) quite a lot for tweaks, it's very handy. Colin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/set+Hairpin+length+as+percentage+of+%22normal%22--t1652404.html#a4669479 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User for

RE: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"?

rg Subject: RE: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"? Quoting Fairchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Clever!! > > For a while, the key construct a4*1/2 eluded me. Thinking about it > and experimenting, it became obvious. Can't find it in the > document

RE: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"?

Quoting Fairchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Clever!! For a while, the key construct a4*1/2 eluded me. Thinking about it and experimenting, it became obvious. Can't find it in the documentation. - Bruce See the section on "Scaling Durations". /Mats _

RE: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"?

lding Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:34 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"? Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: > > Given the new code required for that, are there any new ways to get > Hairpins to stop before the next note (even i

Re: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"?

context: http://www.nabble.com/set+Hairpin+length+as+percentage+of+%22normal%22--t1652404.html#a4513951 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"?

Hairpins ending on a barline have been added to CVS, How great!!! Thank you, everyone responsible! =) Given the new code required for that, are there any new ways to get Hairpins to stop before the next note (even if it's not right after a barline) or have (e.g.) a whole note with a half-n

Re: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"?

On 5/19/06, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 19-May-06, at 1:51 PM, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote:> Just wondering if there's a way to set the length of a Hairpin as a> percentage of its "natural" length (as determined by Lilypond) -- for > example, something like>> \once \overrid

Re: set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"?

On 19-May-06, at 1:51 PM, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: Just wondering if there's a way to set the length of a Hairpin as a percentage of its "natural" length (as determined by Lilypond) -- for example, something like \once \override Voice.Hairpin #'length = #0.8 I'm trying to come up

set Hairpin length as percentage of "normal"?

[ Lilypond 2.9.4-3 ] Hey, y'all! Just wondering if there's a way to set the length of a Hairpin as a percentage of its "natural" length (as determined by Lilypond) -- for example, something like \once \override Voice.Hairpin #'length = #0.8 I'm trying to come up with the easiest way t

Re: hairpin length for one note

Am 18.04.2006 um 03:04 schrieb Paul Scott: but f2\>\! gives: gotitbadnotes.ly:252:6: warning: can't find start of (de)crescendo f2\> \! r2 [8][16][24][32][40] Shouldn't this just give a hairpin in the space horizontally allocated to the note? It works if I put another note in betw

hairpin length for one note

2.9.2 (on Debian sid) 6.5.3 Dynamics A hairpin starts at the left edge of the beginning note and ends on the right edge of the ending note. but f2\>\! gives: gotitbadnotes.ly:252:6: warning: can't find start of (de)crescendo f2\> \! r2 [8][16][24][32][40] Shouldn't this just g

Re: trick/tip: hairpin length control

On 11-Apr-06, at 2:13 PM, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: Just in case you haven't stumbled across this one, I seem to have found a nice way of controlling the end of hairpins without instantiating extra voices... [Haven't found any negative side-effects yet, but if you can see one, please wa

Re: trick/tip: hairpin length control

This is a great tip! Thanks for sharing it. Geoff ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

trick/tip: hairpin length control

Hello, all -- Just in case you haven't stumbled across this one, I seem to have found a nice way of controlling the end of hairpins without instantiating extra voices... [Haven't found any negative side- effects yet, but if you can see one, please warn me!] For example, David Sanders wrote