Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Robert, > Finally I got it working Yay! > Since I do not yet know the right way to install things downloaded from > github.com/openlilylib, I merely copied the folder "snippets-master" to a > LilyPond folder in my Dropbox and used \include "full_path_to_shapeII.ily" > in the ME I posted.

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-07 Thread Robert Blackstone
Hi Kieren, Finally I got it working, albeit "Non senza fatiga" (like when you managed to play Frescobaldi's Toccata IX, at least according to Frescobaldi himself). Since I do not yet know the right way to install things downloaded from github.com/openlilylib, I merely copied the folder "snippe

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-06 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 06.10.2016 13:53, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Robert, Did you download and install the openlilylib framework on your path? No, I didn't. Frankly, I had no idea that something like that would be necessary. \shapeII currently requires it (though I hope one day, \shapeII or similar is built i

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Robert, >> Did you download and install the openlilylib framework on your path? > No, I didn't. Frankly, I had no idea that something like that would be > necessary. \shapeII currently requires it (though I hope one day, \shapeII or similar is built in to the main distribution of Lilypond).

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-06 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Robert, As I briefly mentioned \shapeII is in the openlilylib project. It's a generalisation of the builtin \shape. The openlilylib directory containing that is called 'notation-snippets/shaping-bezier-curves'. There is a well written paper there on how to use it with good examples. Andrew O

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-06 Thread Robert Blackstone
On 5 Oct 2016, at 19:03 , Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Did you download and install the openlilylib framework on your path? Hi Kieren, No, I didn't. Frankly, I had no idea that something like that would be necessary. There was no separate log-file but I copied he text from the console (I use

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Robert, > Thanks for your advice and your ME. Compiling it out of the box does not give > a result that is better than the untweaked code. Did you download and install the openlilylib framework on your path? > One question: why does it insert an empty bar at the beginning. I can't see > wha

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-05 Thread Robert Blackstone
Hi Andrew, Thanks for your advice and your ME. Compiling it out of the box does not give a result that is better than the untweaked code. It will take some time for me to become familiar with the possibilities of this \shapeII. One question: why does it insert an empty bar at the beginning. I ca

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-05 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Robert, Well, I don't have 2.18, so I don't know if this is available to you, but if you can use the openlilylib bezier shaping code, you can have very fine control using the \shapeII function. \version "2.19.48" { \time 2/4 \key des \major \omit Staff.TimeSignature \override Tie.minimum

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-05 Thread Robert Blackstone
Hi Pierre, Thank you. Much better, at least for the first bar. The price for this improvement seems to be that the ties have become somewhat disconnected from their note-heads, which is tolerable for the first bar in the example but not really nice for he second. Experimenting a bit with the

Re: Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-05 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Robert, How about: % \version "2.18.2" \paper { paper-width = 5.59\cm paper-height = 8.93\cm system-system-spacing #' basic-distance = #5 tagline = ##f } \layout{ indent=0\mm } { \time 2/4 \key des \major \omit Staff.TimeSignature ges'2 -\tweak details.note-head-

Ties, distance from barline at a system break

2016-10-05 Thread Robert Blackstone
Dear all, Recently a friend, professional engraver (non-LilyPond), looking with a very critical eye at some of my LilyPond trials, pointed out that when there is a tie, interrupted by a system break, the distance from tie to barline and from whatever sits at the beginning of the staff to tie i