Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-10-03 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Sven Axelsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 02/10/05, Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> For the curious, I've put a many score book with vertical space >> annotations there: >> http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lully/lwv08-annotated.pdf > > > This is great! The scores for LWV 5 and

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-10-02 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Would it be possible to also print the space from the last system (of a page) to the bottom of the page, in order to see how many extra space we have? That would be handy when tweaking inter-system or inter-staff space. See CVS. I've also added the margins and the header/

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-10-02 Thread Sven Axelsson
On 02/10/05, Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For the curious, I've put a many score book with vertical spaceannotations there:http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lully/lwv08-annotated.pdf This is great! The scores for LWV 5 and LWV 8 are excellent for those who, like me, are interested to see h

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-10-02 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Trevor Bača wrote: >>>One problem still is visualization: it's hard to see what's going on >>>unless you completely understand how things work. One possibility would >>>be to annotate every tunable dimension on the page, so you can see >>>exactly wha

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-10-01 Thread Trevor Bača
On 10/1/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trevor Bača wrote: > >>One problem still is visualization: it's hard to see what's going on > >>unless you completely understand how things work. One possibility would > >>be to annotate every tunable dimension on the page, so you can see >

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-10-01 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača wrote: One problem still is visualization: it's hard to see what's going on unless you completely understand how things work. One possibility would be to annotate every tunable dimension on the page, so you can see exactly what is being tweaked. It would be similar to http://www.m

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-27 Thread Trevor Bača
On 9/27/05, Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On 9/27/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Nicolas Sceaux wrote: > >> > Ok, cool, that's exactly what I would like. If Trevor is also OK, we > >> > should have enough for line-br

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-27 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 9/27/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Nicolas Sceaux wrote: >> > Ok, cool, that's exactly what I would like. If Trevor is also OK, we >> > should have enough for line-break-system-details and >> > alignment-stretch-factor, great! >> >

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-27 Thread Trevor Bača
On 9/27/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nicolas Sceaux wrote: > > Ok, cool, that's exactly what I would like. If Trevor is also OK, we > > should have enough for line-break-system-details and > > alignment-stretch-factor, great! > > The first part of this is working, see > > http

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-27 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Ok, cool, that's exactly what I would like. If Trevor is also OK, we should have enough for line-break-system-details and alignment-stretch-factor, great! The first part of this is working, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.html#pag

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-23 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača wrote: I'm not sure that I understand what you mean. Do you want the systems to be vertically aligned against the page boundaries with their staves (ie. the 5-line staff symbols) iso. their bounding boxes? Yes, precisely. It would (theoretically) therefore be possible for the bound

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-22 Thread Trevor Bača
On 9/22/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trevor Bača wrote: > > Third question: would either feature #1, #2 or #3 afford the following > > ability: > > > > To be able to set both the *very topmost* staffline on a page (ie, the > > top staffline of the top staff of the top system o

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača wrote: Third question: would either feature #1, #2 or #3 afford the following ability: To be able to set both the *very topmost* staffline on a page (ie, the top staffline of the top staff of the top system of the page) at an exact vertical distance from the top of the page and the *

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-22 Thread Trevor Bača
On 9/22/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Trevor Bača wrote: > > First question: how do these two features differ? If feature #1 lets > > you specify spacing details immediately after (or before?) a \break or > > \pageBreak, then doesn't that give 100% control over vertical spacin

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača wrote: First question: how do these two features differ? If feature #1 lets you specify spacing details immediately after (or before?) a \break or \pageBreak, then doesn't that give 100% control over vertical spacing to the user (thereby making feature #2 unnecessary)? Or perhaps #2

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-22 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nicolas Sceaux wrote: >> Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>I could implement the following: >>> >>>add a property line-break-system-details >>>PRICE: 130 euro >>> >>>In addition, I could also make an alignment-stretch-factor >> >>>T

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-22 Thread Trevor Bača
On 9/22/05, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Han-Wen, > > I'm almost certainly down for EUR 130 but first I have two questions; > they're in-line: > > On 9/20/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fairchild wrote: > > > Not from me, but there have been many postings from in

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-22 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi Han-Wen, I'm almost certainly down for EUR 130 but first I have two questions; they're in-line: On 9/20/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fairchild wrote: > > Not from me, but there have been many postings from individuals struggling > > with page layout vertical springs. Sugg

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-22 Thread Robert Memering
Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2005 00:48 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: > No, staves. I could make the vertical alignment routines adjust their > vertical stretch by inspecting the alignment-stretch-factor of their > left bound. This would make it possible to make systems take up more > vertical space

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-21 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I could implement the following: add a property line-break-system-details PRICE: 130 euro In addition, I could also make an alignment-stretch-factor This would make it possible to set the distance between staves in indivi

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-21 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I could implement the following: > > add a property line-break-system-details > PRICE: 130 euro > > In addition, I could also make an alignment-stretch-factor > This would make it possible to set the distance between staves in > individual staves eas

Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Fairchild wrote: Han-Wen - What I proposed is to implement individual line spacing control with\breakSpace #n to force n staff spaces between lines, and \pageBreakSpace #n to force n staff spaces at the bottom of a page. Spacing following normal breaks or those forced with \break or \pageBreak

RE: Vertical spacing tweaks.

2005-09-20 Thread Fairchild
Han-Wen - What I proposed is to implement individual line spacing control with\breakSpace #n to force n staff spaces between lines, and \pageBreakSpace #n to force n staff spaces at the bottom of a page. Spacing following normal breaks or those forced with \break or \pageBreak would be calculated