Hi,
I produced a package of things that I could do.
I made a TTF Persian font called Vaziri which has the music notations.
I also created a separate folder for a version of the font (without
Persian text characters) in OTF and Type1 format with all their
related files.
There is also a PDF for
> >> \override Accidental #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
> >> \override Accidental #'font-name = #"???"
> >> \override Accidental #'font-size = #?
> >> \override Accidental #'text = #(lambda (grob)
> >> (cdr
> (assoc
> >> (ly:grob-property grob 'alteration)
> >>
Kees van den Doel wrote:
Then in "\context" add
\override Accidental #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Accidental #'font-name = #"???"
\override Accidental #'font-size = #?
\override Accidental #'text = #(lambda (grob)
(cdr (assoc
(ly:grob-property grob 'alteration)
>Then in "\context" add
>
> \override Accidental #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
> \override Accidental #'font-name = #"???"
> \override Accidental #'font-size = #?
> \override Accidental #'text = #(lambda (grob)
> (cdr (assoc
> (ly:grob-property grob 'alteration)
>
- Original Message -
From: Graham Breed
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:06 am
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel
Cc: Behnam Rassi , Hans Aberg ,
lilypond
> Kees van den Doel wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I made an init file &quo
Kees van den Doel wrote:
Hi Folks,
I made an init file "persian.ly" with support for Persian accidentals and scale
signatures.
The only thing missing is correct glyphs for koron and sori. I include it below.
You don't want glyphs. You want strings, because we're not
expecting a music font,
> I guess you need context more than resolution; here's a couple of
> scanned pages:
>
> http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/tmp/koronSori.pdf
Thanks.
Werner
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On 17 Feb 2009, at 00:32, Kees van den Doel wrote:
D# E#p F-raised - I just added a sharp to your example.
Oh, I see, but non-white key finalis is never used, yet for
completeness I'll add it too.
Though transposition is not used much now, if a program can do it for
you, perhaps. Anyway,
> >> If you look at the persian.ly file I sent, you will find the
> >> symbol for that I think (a blank).
> >
> > On the other hand if you meant not the glyph but the input suffix...
>
> Perhaps an unfortunate choice of word: as a musical
> function,
> regardless whether it is notated.
>
> >
On 16 Feb 2009, at 23:35, Kees van den Doel wrote:
If you look at the persian.ly file I sent, you will find the
symbol for that I think (a blank).
On the other hand if you meant not the glyph but the input suffix...
Perhaps an unfortunate choice of word: as a musical function,
regardless w
On 16 Feb 2009, at 23:14, Kees van den Doel wrote:
E.g., D Ep F (F 20 cent flat, so actually D Ep and Ep F are
the same
interval)
If the musical function or intent is that these intervals should
be
equal, then the note is F#pp, that is, a double koron.
Cute, I never thought of that! Howeve
> > On the other hand, if it is lowered an unspecified amount,
> then
> > when
> > transposed, you will need another symbol that raises an
> interval
> > so
> > that the sum is M-m.
>
> If you look at the persian.ly file I sent, you will find the
> symbol for that I think (a blank).
On
- Original Message -
From: Hans Aberg
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel
Cc: Behnam Rassi , Graham Breed ,
lilypond
> On 16 Feb 2009, at 21:43, Kees van den Doel wrote:
>
> > > Might you give s
On 16 Feb 2009, at 21:43, Kees van den Doel wrote:
> Might you give some examples of this (which written notes)?
E.g., D Ep F (F 20 cent flat, so actually D Ep and Ep F are the same
interval)
If the musical function or intent is that these intervals should be
equal, then the note is F#pp,
I guess you need context more than resolution; here's a couple of scanned pages:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/tmp/koronSori.pdf
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Werner LEMBERG
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: kvand...@shaw.
- Original Message -
From: Hans Aberg
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:12 am
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel
Cc: Behnam Rassi , Graham Breed ,
lilypond
> On 16 Feb 2009, at 03:48, Kees van den Doel wrote:
>
> > The note immediately
On 16 Feb 2009, at 03:48, Kees van den Doel wrote:
The note immediately following a koron is sometimes (when the
interval
defined by the note before the koron and after the koron is a
minor
third, and the note below the finalis in esfahan according to some
(but
not all) Persian mus
On 16 Feb 2009, at 03:48, Kees van den Doel wrote:
The note immediately following a koron is sometimes (when the
interval
defined by the note before the koron and after the koron is a
minor
third, and the note below the finalis in esfahan according to some
(but
not all) Persian mus
On 16 Feb 2009, at 00:45, Graham Breed wrote:
You need to say what interval (as a fraction of a 200 cent whole
tone) you want each symbol to correspond to.
If one would use E53 (the Pythagorean tuning), how would it work now,
after your work of implementing microtonality into LilyPond? If M
> I made an init file "persian.ly" with support for Persian
> accidentals and scale signatures.
> The only thing missing is correct glyphs for koron and sori. I
> include it below.
Can someone please provide high-resolution scans of the Persian stuff
in action? What I've seen so far are some low
ubject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Graham Breed
Cc: Kees van den Doel , Hans Aberg ,
lilypond
> On 15-Feb-09, at 6:45 PM, Graham Breed wrote:
>
> > Behnam Rassi wrote:
> >> Yes Kees I downloaded the font and saw the glyphs.
> >> This is as far as I can go wi
On 15-Feb-09, at 6:45 PM, Graham Breed wrote:
Behnam Rassi wrote:
Yes Kees I downloaded the font and saw the glyphs.
This is as far as I can go with my current work too. Except that I
will add additional Persian music notations (and perhaps somewhat
better looking glyphs!). But I can only p
Behnam Rassi wrote:
Yes Kees I downloaded the font and saw the glyphs.
This is as far as I can go with my current work too. Except that I will
add additional Persian music notations (and perhaps somewhat better
looking glyphs!). But I can only produce a font in ttf format, another
one perhaps
Yes Kees I downloaded the font and saw the glyphs.
This is as far as I can go with my current work too. Except that I
will add additional Persian music notations (and perhaps somewhat
better looking glyphs!). But I can only produce a font in ttf format,
another one perhaps in otf format. I c
ssage -
From: Behnam Rassi
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel
Cc: Hans Aberg , Graham Breed , lilypond
> Yes of-course send me any relevant picture of Persian music
> notation.
> I'm currently in the phase of col
as well, let me
know if you want to see any.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Behnam Rassi
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel
Cc: Hans Aberg , Graham Breed
, lilypond
I also hopefully will get some pictures from
I also hopefully will get some pictures from Iran.
The thickness of the lines have also something to do with its harmony
with other music notes. So this is not much of an issue. But the
basic shaping has something that should be looked more carefully. But
generally speaking it is pretty clea
Behnam Rassi wrote:
What I'm not clear about is that you don't need just a font containing
two glyphs for Sori and Koron right? You need a font containing all
necessary glyphs for music writing, including Sori and Koron. So I have
to add them to an existing font. Did I understand it correctly?
Really all that's lacking is the koron and sori. A small o is fine for the
tahrir, we have that already.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Behnam Rassi
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel
Cc: Hans Aberg , Graham
O
|| |
|| |
it indicates a small grace note of undefined pitch.
There are some symbols for tar/setar and santur as well, let me know if you
want to see any.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Behnam Rassi
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees
> On 2 Feb 2009, at 20:58, Kees van den Doel wrote:
>
> > I have several shelves of Persian music books and I have never
> seen
> > that "variation".
> > The sori is always a rotated = with an > on it, and the koron
> akways
> > has the '>' body.
>
> That is good to know - I think what you
On 2 Feb 2009, at 20:58, Kees van den Doel wrote:
I have several shelves of Persian music books and I have never seen
that "variation".
The sori is always a rotated = with an > on it, and the koron akways
has the '>' body.
That is good to know - I think what you say is best, being most
di
> > standard fonts I'd have thought if we're only talking two new
> glyphs.
> Though there are some variations, I think they semantically the
> same.
> The variation used by Farhat is for koron like an inverted flat
> b, but
> with the loop have the form >, and for the sori, a sharp # but
rsian musical koron and sori
To: Behnam
Cc: Unicode Mailing List , LilyPond users list
, Graham Breed , Kees van
den Doel
On 1 Feb 2009, at 22:35, Behnam wrote:
LilyPond now has the capability to typeset these, if one can
get
hold of glyphs, and produce correctly tuned MIDI files.
I may be
On 2 Feb 2009, at 12:34, Graham Breed wrote:
Do you what types of fonts that LilyPond can use? - Behnam Rassi he
says he only knows how to make music fonts.
There are two ways Lilypond loads its fonts: music fonts and Pango
fonts. The music fonts start out as Metafont and get converted to
Hans Aberg wrote:
Graham,
Do you what types of fonts that LilyPond can use? - Behnam Rassi he says
he only knows how to make music fonts.
There are two ways Lilypond loads its fonts: music fonts and
Pango fonts. The music fonts start out as Metafont and get
converted to OTF along with some
soon.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Behnam
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel
Cc: Hans Aberg , Unicode Mailing List ,
LilyPond users list , Graham Breed
> Thanks Kees.
> Is this for tuning a key or marking
--- Original Message -
> > From: Hans Aberg
> > Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009 2:14 pm
> > Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
> > To: Behnam
> > Cc: Unicode Mailing List , LilyPond
> users list
> > , Graham Breed
> , Kees van
> > d
Here's an example from a Persian music book.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Hans Aberg
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Behnam
Cc: Unicode Mailing List , LilyPond users list
, Graham Breed , Kees van den Doel
> On 1 Feb
On 1 Feb 2009, at 22:35, Behnam wrote:
LilyPond now has the capability to typeset these, if one can get
hold of glyphs, and produce correctly tuned MIDI files.
I may be able to produce the glyph (with some additional studies)
but I can only support you in getting the code for it.
It would
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