Re: Odd output

2010-12-25 Thread Keith OHara
Hello, Jan. The article you pointed out earlier, by J-P Coulon, was more useful than anything I could find. The handbook from the Music Publishers Association of the United States, by contrast, has some mistakes -- such as putting the key cancellation /after/ the new key signature; we in the

Re: Odd output

2010-12-18 Thread Phil Holmes
user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Odd output Thanks Phil, I'm curious about the vocal part. Why is the stemming different than the piano reduction? As written, it indicates SAA division on the first chord and SSS (no Alto!) on the second. This may

Re: Odd output

2010-12-18 Thread Michael Ellis
gt; To: "James Lowe" > Cc: "Keith OHara" ; > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: Odd output > > > On 17 December 2010 23:09, James Lowe wrote: > > I am not a vocal specialist but just using this one simplistic example of >>

Re: Odd output

2010-12-18 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Neil Puttock" To: "James Lowe" Cc: "Keith OHara" ; Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Odd output On 17 December 2010 23:09, James Lowe wrote: I am not a vocal specialist but just using this one simplistic

Re: Odd output

2010-12-18 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Keith OHara" To: ; "Phil Holmes" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Odd output On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:09:10 -0800, Phil Holmes wrote: The version that Chappell uses in the Mikado is attached. Nice. It does b

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Neil Puttock
On 17 December 2010 23:09, James Lowe wrote: > I am not a vocal specialist but just using this one simplistic example of C > seems erroneous. Isn't the idea of the notes printed at the same moment to > show that they need to be sung at the same moment if you see what I mean? Yes > I am sure th

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Michael Ellis
> > -Original Message- > From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of > Michael Ellis > Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 21:50 > To: Keith OHara > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Odd output > > +1 for option C > Cheers, > Mike > > >

RE: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread James Lowe
Hello, -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Michael Ellis Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 21:50 To: Keith OHara Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Odd output +1 for option C Cheers, Mike On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Keith OHara

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Michael Ellis
+1 for option C Cheers, Mike On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Keith OHara wrote: > On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:09:10 -0800, Phil Holmes > wrote: > >> >> The version that Chappell uses in the Mikado is attached. >> >> Nice. > It does break the usual rules about horizontal placement, and about when

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Keith OHara
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:09:10 -0800, Phil Holmes wrote: The version that Chappell uses in the Mikado is attached. Nice. It does break the usual rules about horizontal placement, and about when to cancel accidentals in another voice. But, with the beaming to clarify the timing and linking the

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Keith OHara" To: Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Odd output Phil Holmes philholmes.net> writes: From: "Marco Correia" gmail.com> > > \include "english.ly" > { > \clef treble > \t

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Keith OHara
Phil Holmes philholmes.net> writes: > > From: "Marco Correia" gmail.com> > > > > \include "english.ly" > > { > > \clef treble > > \time 4/4 > > << > > { fs'4 } > > \\ > > { f'4 } >> > >>> > > This was one of the first issues I raised, in June this year. I think it > was my first bug report: >

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/10/10 8:27 PM, "Marco Correia" wrote: > Hi, > > I didn't want to sound rude or anything. I just want to make a point that I do > not consider this as a minor improvement since: > > 1. The output is not aestetically wrong, it is definitely readable differently > from what is specified i

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Marco Correia
ginal Message - > From: "Marco Correia" > To: "Phil Holmes" > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: Odd output > > > Thanks! > > > > I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This >

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Ellis writes: > Yes! Spelling does count because poorly spelled music is much harder > to read. I'm somewhat less convinced regarding sonic differences on > untempered instruments because the matter is more complicated than > that, e.g G# as the leading tone to A is different from G# as t

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread James Bailey
>> I made a workaround with a combination of forcing the accidentals to be >> displayed, and then using force-hshift and extra-offset and a few other >> tweaks to make it work. >> >> My example is pretty complicated, because I also autogenerate the code, but

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Michael Ellis
example is pretty complicated, because I also autogenerate the code, >> but you're welcome to a copy if you want. >> >> -- >> Phil Holmes >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Marco Correia" < >> marco.v.corr...

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Michael Ellis
could but shouldn't > use a Gb not a F# as the first chordsis a G chord." > > Note his final comment - could use a Gb but shouldn't. > > -- > Phil Holmes > > > > - Original Message ----- > *From:* Michael Ellis > *To:* LilyPond User Group > *S

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread James Bailey
togenerate the code, but > you're welcome to a copy if you want. > > -- > Phil Holmes > > > > - Original Message - From: "Marco Correia" > To: "Phil Holmes" > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: Odd output >

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Phil Holmes
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Odd output Why not set one of the notes to a different enharmonic pitch? It's certainly much kinder to the musician who's trying to play the composition. \include "english.ly" { \clef tre

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Phil Holmes
c: Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 3:18 AM Subject: Re: Odd output You get 2 stems because you created 2 voices with the signs "<<" and \\ see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Multiple-voices.html What are you trying to compose? On Dec 9, 2010, at 7

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Michael Ellis
> > -- > Phil Holmes > > > > - Original Message - From: "Marco Correia" < > marco.v.corr...@gmail.com> > To: "Phil Holmes" > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: Odd output > > > Thanks! >> >> I

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Phil Holmes
uot;Phil Holmes" Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Odd output Thanks! I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which is to serve as a printer for computer generated music. Th

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Marco Correia
Thanks! I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which is to serve as a printer for computer generated music. The output is not ugly - it is plain wrong! Why doesn't the accidental_engraver looks into

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Marc Mouries
You get 2 stems because you created 2 voices with the signs "<<" and \\ see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Multiple-voices.html What are you trying to compose? On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Marco Correia wrote: > Hi, > > I just started using lilypond, so it is very p

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Tim McNamara
Isn't there a >> missing to pair with the << ? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Marco Correia" To: Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:35 AM Subject: Odd output Hi, I just started using lilypond, so it is very possible that I'm making some mistake. When compiling this example: \include "english.ly" { \clef treble \time 4/4 << { fs'4

RE: Odd output

2010-12-09 Thread James Lowe
Hello -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Marco Correia Sent: Fri 12/10/2010 0:35 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Odd output Hi, I just started using lilypond, so it is very possible that I'm making some mistake. When compil