Re: GUI for selecting text and music fonts

Hi, thanks a lot, both are great. I won't have time to integrate them this weekend, though. Best Urs Am 22.09.2018 um 11:38 schrieb foxfanfare: Hi Urs, Here are two new exemples. - One from Bach with several baroque glyphs Bach.JPG

Re: GUI for selecting text and music fonts

Hi Urs, Here are two new exemples. - One from Bach with several baroque glyphs Bach.JPG Bach_-_Goldberg_Variations.ly - One from Berg, for

Re: GUI for selecting text and music fonts

Am 22.09.2018 um 05:12 schrieb Karlin High: On 9/21/2018 1:32 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Similarly a "Music font" pull-down doesn't have to be limited to the font name. It could be a row with checkboxes, just like in the current version of the Music Fonts tab. Oh, good. I wasn't sure what would

Re: GUI for selecting text and music fonts

On 9/21/2018 1:32 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Similarly a "Music font" pull-down doesn't have to be limited to the font name. It could be a row with checkboxes, just like in the current version of the Music Fonts tab. Oh, good. I wasn't sure what would be available. I haven't looked at Qt developmen

Re: GUI for selecting text and music fonts (was: Sample document to show music fonts)

Hi Urs, this looks really great. I realized that I have different preferences whether I have to choose a text font for a paragraph of text or for some words like "cresc." or "dim." in a score. Therefore, I like the idea of showing the text font inside a score. I agree that a list of fonts is bet

Re: GUI for selecting text and music fonts

Am 21.09.2018 um 20:24 schrieb Br. Samuel Springuel: The one problem that jumps out at me about Karlin's proposal is that the information about the font type (OTF, SVG, WOFF) and whether or not that type has a defined brace would be lost.  That sort of information can be important depending o

Re: GUI for selecting text and music fonts

The one problem that jumps out at me about Karlin's proposal is that the information about the font type (OTF, SVG, WOFF) and whether or not that type has a defined brace would be lost. That sort of information can be important depending on your target file format. If you can find a way to sh

Re: GUI for selecting text and music fonts

On 9/21/2018 11:51 AM, Urs Liska wrote: What do you think? What would be helpful as an interface with the least need for context switching? Here's the first thing that comes to mind. No emotional investment, any modifying or rejection of concept is fine. PNG attached. Main dialog shows musi

Re: GUI for Windows

Thank you for the tips. I tried out jEdit with LilypondTool and found that to be very helpful. The manual also helped. Thanks for your advice. Regards, ~Michael~ If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message

Re: GUI for Windows

Michael S. Morales wrote: My second question is will there ever be a graphical version for Windows? -- Because Lilypond is based on text files as input to a very sophisticated rendering engine, a GUI in the sense of "enter code and see the final score instantly" is probably some distance i

Re: GUI

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > - At http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/learning#Learning, I > find the formulation in "Read it": "read this manual in the same format as > this one." very confusing. I'm trying to explain the difference between ** READ IT @ref

Re: GUI

A couple of detailed comments on the Learning Manual: - At http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/learning#Learning, I find the formulation in "Read it": "read this manual in the same format as this one." very confusing. Honestly, I don't understand what you mean. If you mean that the

Re: GUI

On Dec 19, 2009, at 2:49 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Robert Ley writes: Also, please remember that some of us, me included, have little experience writing command lines, so when you put, as part of the first information on command line use: Create a directory to store these scripts,

Re: GUI

Robert Ley writes: > Thanks. > I had found most of that. > What I had meant is more along the lines of what Tim McNamara said: > > > IMHO here is where we run into the issue of what LilyPond *is.* > It's a backend with no face, basically. This is something that > most Windows and Ma

Re: GUI

Thanks. I had found most of that. What I had meant is more along the lines of what Tim McNamara said: IMHO here is where we run into the issue of what LilyPond *is.* It's a backend with no face, basically. This is something that most Windows and Mac users will find hard to grasp initially,

Re: GUI

Graham Percival wrote: A couple of comments on the text at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/text-input#Text-input: You never mention that you need a text editor. Well, the windows and OSX lilyponds come with their own text editor. I admit that I'm just assuming that li

Re: GUI

On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:59 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Kees van den Doel writes: Of course there is nothing really wrong with the current website. Most people will want to just download lilypond and try it out; who has time to read all the crap on a product's website? Once they've clicked on the

Re: GUI

Hi Graham, On 18/12/09 09:38, Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:32:50PM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: If you can suggest an improvement, especially in the Introduction pages, please do. LilyPondTool, Frescobaldi, Emacs and Vim are listed under "Alternate Input." Since thi

Re: GUI

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:04:05PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Quoting Graham Percival : > >> Thanks, I missed that! I'll add this to my TODO. > > I hope you also know that you end up at the 2.13 manual if you click on > the quick link to the "Manuals 2.12.2" on the main page. Yes; fixing th

Re: GUI

Maybe change "Alternate Input" to "Input software," or "Input programs," or "Progams, At least One of Which You Will Use to Enter Your Scores if You At All Value Your Time and Sanity." "Input aids". Hmm, on second thought, what about calling it "Easier editing"? 'Aids' isn't much better

Re: GUI

On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 12:01 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:32:50PM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >> > If you can suggest an improvement, especially in the > >> > Introduction pages, please do. > >> > >> LilyPondTool, Frescobaldi, Emacs

Re: GUI

Quoting Graham Percival : On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 01:00:57AM -0800, -Eluze wrote: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/development#Development http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/development#Development on this page clicking *Manuals* in the top note leads to the 2.12.2

Re: GUI

Il 18/12/2009 10:36, Francisco Vila ha scritto: 2009/12/18 Federico Bruni: I would add this line, before executing the file (I know Unix users should not have any problem with that, but still.. it's just a line.. and it can help newbies): chmod a+x lilypond-2.12.2-OS-TYPE.sh sh does not nee

Re: GUI

Graham Percival writes: > The *first* question is "how do we discourage people who don't want > lilypond from downloading it?" Some people don't get text input, and > will never take the time to learn. Such as my mother, for example. Yes, that's as important as it is for a violin academy to di

Re: GUI

Graham Percival writes: > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:32:50PM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> > If you can suggest an improvement, especially in the >> > Introduction pages, please do. >> >> LilyPondTool, Frescobaldi, Emacs and Vim are listed under >> "Alternate Input." Since this link is to

Re: GUI

Forgive me for jumping in, as this is a long thread and I have only been partially reading it. However, I have a couple of comments which I hope will be useful. Firstly, I think the new web site looks great. I do not think the current site looks particularly bad (I have seen much worse), but it

Re: GUI

Il 18/12/2009 06:32, Jonathan Wilkes ha scritto: LilyPondTool, Frescobaldi, Emacs and Vim are listed under "Alternate Input." Since this link is to the right of "Text Input," the implication is that they are alternatives to text input, which of course is false: All the information under the "

Re: GUI

Quoting Federico Bruni : Il 18/12/2009 00:57, Graham Percival ha scritto: Pretend that you've never heard of lilypond. Does the webpage answer the questions, or present the information, that you wanted to know before you got involved? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/index.htm

Re: GUI

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:47:26AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2009/12/18 Graham Percival : > > Hmm, on second thought, what about calling it "Easier editing"? > > That alliterates, so it gets a 20% bonus to its attractiveness. :) > > I often call them Improved Environments. They are not only

Re: GUI

2009/12/18 Graham Percival : >> So the question is what action from the clicking on the "downloaded >> icon" will be the fastest leading to the average unsuspecting user >> writing and processing their first "Michael row the boat ashore" kind of >> file. > > The *first* question is "how do we disco

Re: GUI

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:36:57AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2009/12/18 Federico Bruni : > > Il 18/12/2009 00:57, Graham Percival ha scritto: > >> > >> Pretend that you've never heard of lilypond.  Does the webpage > >> answer the questions, or present the information, that you wanted > >> to

Re: GUI

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 01:00:57AM -0800, -Eluze wrote: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/development#Development > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/development#Development > > on this page clicking *Manuals* in the top note leads to the 2.12.2 manuals, > whereas

Re: GUI

2009/12/18 Graham Percival : > I'm willing to change the name, but I'm not convinced that any of > thsoe are more attractive than "alternate input".  More to the > point, the bottom of "text input" tries to direct people there, > with the "easier editing environments" stuff. > > Hmm, on second thou

Re: GUI

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 09:59:17AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Kees van den Doel writes: > > > Of course there is nothing really wrong with the current website. > > Most people will want to just download lilypond and try it out; who > > has time to read all the crap on a product's website? Onc

Re: GUI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:32:50PM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > If you can suggest an improvement, especially in the > > Introduction pages, please do. > > LilyPondTool, Frescobaldi, Emacs and Vim are listed under > "Alternate Input." Since this link is to the right of "Text > Input," the

Re: GUI

2009/12/18 Federico Bruni : > Il 18/12/2009 00:57, Graham Percival ha scritto: >> >> Pretend that you've never heard of lilypond.  Does the webpage >> answer the questions, or present the information, that you wanted >> to know before you got involved? >> >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentat

Re: GUI

Il 18/12/2009 00:57, Graham Percival ha scritto: Pretend that you've never heard of lilypond. Does the webpage answer the questions, or present the information, that you wanted to know before you got involved? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/index.html Here: http://lilypond.

Re: GUI

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 09:34:26AM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > No.  The alternate input page is extremely easy to find. > > With all due respect, you may be missing the point here. I haven't missed the point. > As I mentioned,

Re: GUI

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/development#Development http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/development#Development on this page clicking *Manuals* in the top note leads to the 2.12.2 manuals, whereas clicking *download* goes to the 2.13.9 downloads. -- View this me

Re: GUI

Kees van den Doel writes: > Of course there is nothing really wrong with the current website. > Most people will want to just download lilypond and try it out; who > has time to read all the crap on a product's website? Once they've > clicked on the downloaded icon on their screen something reas

Re: GUI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > No.  The alternate input page is extremely easy to find. With all due respect, you may be missing the point here. Bertalan's suggestion, as I read it, wasn't so much about the website presentation than the program distribution/packaging/bu

Re: GUI

pen. Kees - Original Message - From: Jonathan Wilkes Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:33 pm Subject: Re: GUI To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > > Message: 5 > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:57:27 + > > From: Graham Percival > > Subject: Re: GUI > > To: Tim McNamar

Re: GUI

> Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:57:27 + > From: Graham Percival > Subject: Re: GUI > To: Tim McNamara > Cc: lilypond-user > Message-ID: <20091217235727.ga13...@sapphire> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [...] > I invite people -

Re: GUI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 05:47:49PM -0600, Tim McNamara wrote: > > On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Kees van den Doel >> wrote: >>> Of course, most people do not know what an "editor" is, except >>> as some guy that puts articles in newpaper

Re: GUI

On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Kees van den Doel wrote: From: Graham Percival On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Valentin Villenave No. The alternate input page is extremely easy to find. "recommended" editors are right at the top of th

Re: GUI

- Original Message - From: Graham Percival Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:48 pm Subject: Re: GUI To: Kees van den Doel Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Kees van den Doel > wrote: > > > > From: Graham Percival > >> On T

Re: GUI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Kees van den Doel wrote: > > From: Graham Percival >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Valentin Villenave >> No.  The alternate input page is extremely easy to find. >> "recommended" editors are right at the top of that page. > > Of course, most people do not know

Re: GUI

- Original Message - From: Graham Percival Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:00 am Subject: Re: GUI To: Valentin Villenave Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Valentin Villenave > wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Bertalan Fodor (

Re: GUI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Valentin Villenave wrote: > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) > wrote: >> I would like to see options on the download page: >> - Download LilyPond with LilyPondTool (needs Java installed) >> - Download LilyPond with Frescobaldi (Linux

Re: GUI

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > I would like to see options on the download page: > - Download LilyPond with LilyPondTool (needs Java installed) > - Download LilyPond with Frescobaldi (Linux only) > - Download LilyPond without an editor That would be veeer

Re: GUI

Yes, but the concern here is to bundle something along with LilyPond. I don't think that's a very good idea though. We shouldn't bundle unmaintained (that's a fact) broken (fact) editors. I think we should make LilyPondTool and Frescobaldi officially recommended and provide them as bundle downl

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

- Original Message - From: Tim McNamara Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:18 pm Subject: Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work! To: lilypond-user > > On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Kees van den Doel wrote: > > > If lilypond came with a rudimentary GUI I think it would at > l

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Kees van den Doel wrote: If lilypond came with a rudimentary GUI I think it would at least octuple the number of people trying it out. Something simple like a window with File/compile menus, a text editor pane, compile messages at bottom, and a score preview.

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

ue. Kees - Original Message - From: Valentin Villenave Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:24 am Subject: Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work! To: Kees van den Doel Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Kees van den Doel wrote: If lilypond came with a rudimentary GUI I

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

e a plan for a serious IDE, I think that's a > different issue. > > Kees > - Original Message - > From: Valentin Villenave > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:24 am > Subject: Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work! > To: Kees van den Doel > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.or

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

;where is the program??"), and move on. What you point to looks like a plan for a serious IDE, I think that's a different issue. Kees - Original Message - From: Valentin Villenave Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:24 am Subject: Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work! To: Kees van den Doel

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

jEdit with the LilyPondTool plugin practically does all of that already. James Worlton On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Kees van den Doel wrote: > If lilypond came with a rudimentary GUI I think it would at least octuple > the number of people trying it out. > > Something simple like a window

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Kees van den Doel wrote: > If lilypond came with a rudimentary GUI I think it would at least octuple the > number of people trying it out. You mean like http://wiki.lilynet.net/index.php/LilyPond_GUI ? We'll it's being worked on, though we lack people and resourc

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

Yes, it does have a gui. However, this gui is broken in 2.12.2. I've been working on 2.12.3 for a while. I could have released 2.12.3 literally MONTHS ago if more people helped with lilypond development. Remember, when I'm working on the website text or documentation issues, I'm not working on r

Re: GUI Interface for MAC OS X

hi > Does anyone know a good GUI interface for MAC OS X? I'm sure canorus will become one: http://canorus.berlios.de At the moment it is still a little bit spartanic (under heavy development), but the code and the application-design look really promising. Greez Franz

Re: GUI Interface for MAC OS X

Am 2006-12-04 um 20:25 schrieb Ezequiel Sierra: Does anyone know a good GUI interface for MAC OS X? MacOS X *is* a GUI interface for BSD Unix. :-) If you're looking for a LilyPond GUI interface: - LilyPad http://edbaskerville.com/software/lilypad/ (very simplistic; author is sleeping, pr

Re: GUI application API

Sascha Retzki wrote: Hello, can I use lilypond as a GUI application framework or API to display scores? In a perfect world, I'd like to load a MIDI-file or a Lilypond file, and use some API calls to display it (of course, this can be done converting it to a png, then display the png. I'd pref