Re: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

2021-10-24 Thread Carl Sorensen
Cc: Mark Stephen Mrotek ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 10:22 AM Carl Sorensen wrote: > > I think this should be a snippet, rather than text in a section. Rather than > telling, just show (and one can s

Re: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

2021-10-24 Thread Knute Snortum
On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 10:22 AM Carl Sorensen wrote: > > I think this should be a snippet, rather than text in a section. Rather than > telling, just show (and one can show three different methods in one snippet). > > The snippet could be as simple as: > > \version "2.21" > > \header { > lsrt

Re: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

2021-10-24 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 10/24/21, 10:33 AM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Knute Snortum" wrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:46 AM Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > > Knute, > > Some instructions are here > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#fingering-instruc

Re: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

2021-10-24 Thread Valentin Petzel
Actually the discussed solutions here are arguably better than the documentation example, because that one simply uses a markup event instead of a fingering event, which will cause problems in positioning. Cheers, Valentin 24.10.2021 18:32:32 Knute Snortum : > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:46 AM M

Re: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

2021-10-24 Thread Knute Snortum
On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:46 AM Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > > Knute, > > Some instructions are here > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff#fingering-instructions > although it refers mainly to stringed instrument. Thank you Mark. So no need for a new section, b

RE: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

2021-10-24 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Behalf Of Knute Snortum Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 7:36 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual In this thread (1) we discussed how to notate the piano technique of holding down one note and changing fingers without releasing the note. Wikipedia

Re: Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

2021-10-24 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Any thoughts on this? Just provide a patch on the development repository at this point. It is easier to discuss specifics with concrete material. The contributor's guide has all you need to know, and feel free to ask for assistance with Git, Texinfo or anything. Thanks in advance. Jean

Putting finger substitution in the LilyPond manual

2021-10-24 Thread Knute Snortum
In this thread (1) we discussed how to notate the piano technique of holding down one note and changing fingers without releasing the note. Wikipedia calls this "substitution." (2) I would like to put a section in the manual that explains how to notate this. It seems to be a fairly common thing i

Re: Download lilypond manual via GIT or other updateable method?

2014-01-01 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Tom Dickson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:45 PM Subject: Download lilypond manual via GIT or other updateable method? I keep an offline copy of the Lilypond manual; is there a way to use GIT or similar to just update my copy without

Re: Download lilypond manual via GIT or other updateable method?

2014-01-01 Thread Federico Bruni
2014/1/1 Tom Dickson > I keep an offline copy of the Lilypond manual; is there a way to > use GIT or similar to just update my copy without having to > download a 200+ MB tarball each time? > First, install git and the dependencies. On Debian/Ubuntu this command should install

Download lilypond manual via GIT or other updateable method?

2014-01-01 Thread Tom Dickson
I keep an offline copy of the Lilypond manual; is there a way to use GIT or similar to just update my copy without having to download a 200+ MB tarball each time? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman

Re: lilypond manual intro (absolute v relative)

2012-09-10 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Peter Gentry > wrote: >> I don't see a need for a \absolute: the absence of a \relative >> does the trick - would anyone want to mix the two I wonder? > > for example when one piece of music is entered by several people, and > they used di

Re: lilypond manual intro (absolute v relative)

2012-09-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Peter Gentry wrote: > I don't see a need for a \absolute: the absence of a \relative > does the trick - would anyone want to mix the two I wonder? for example when one piece of music is entered by several people, and they used different "modes" for the fragments t

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 12:30:44AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Karl Berry wrote: >> > It is surely possible to make mod_rewrite not change the visible url, or >> > otherwise arrange for the version-indepe

Re: lilypond manual intro (absolute v relative)

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Gentry
> >Well, I don't think the rest of us are abnormal. A few >minutes practice for most normal people is all it takes ;) > >Trevor Ah but you are dealing with a brain that always gets the fence/fence post count wrong. It does not come easily even after repeated training - so maybe I'm the one

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-10 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Karl Berry writes: > These are not really bugs, all up for interpretation, so I thought I'd > write here ... Thanks! > I wanted to give a url about simple Lilypond input to the prototypical > naive user (my mom, who is a musician but not a programmer). That's why we created a couple of entry ur

Re: Subject: Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Trevor Daniels" To: "Peter Gentry" ; Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Subject: Re: lilypond manual intro An octave mistake on a single note in polyphonic music in absolute notation could easily go unnoticed. Not

Re: Subject: Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Peter Gentry wrote Monday, September 10, 2012 9:28 AM > Having had my share of gripes re the manuals I am now a "born again" > supporter - they are great (not perfect) but great. Nice to be appreciated - thanks! > The notation manual is particularly good - the learning manual is fine never >

Re: Subject: Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-10 Thread David Kastrup
"Peter Gentry" writes: > Having had my share of gripes re the manuals I am now a "born again" > supporter - they are great (not perfect) but great. > > I recommend that you download all the relevant manuals as pdfs to a > folder withing your Lilypond data file group and use the > advanced search

Subject: Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Gentry
Having had my share of gripes re the manuals I am now a "born again" supporter - they are great (not perfect) but great. I recommend that you download all the relevant manuals as pdfs to a folder withing your Lilypond data file group and use the advanced search to check through all the manuals w

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-09 Thread Karl Berry
opens the door to dead links. That door is open no matter what, it seems to me. It's not just people clicking around your web site under your control that are affected. Another Texinfo manual might have an xref to one of your nodes. That will become a dead link. The best way I know to close

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-09 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:19:36PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> > (I'd also like to have an \absolute keyword so that doc examples >> > using it could be more explicit, but that would need to wait until >> > we have a good way to discuss

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 12:30:44AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Karl Berry wrote: > > > > Probably for the same reason I didn't: when we go to the web site and > > simply click the obvious links, the browser shows the version-dependent > > url. > > > > It is surel

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:19:36PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > (I'd also like to have an \absolute keyword so that doc examples > > using it could be more explicit, but that would need to wait until > > we have a good way to discuss syntax changes) > > absolute =

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-08 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Karl Berry wrote: > >> How come i didn't know about them?? > > Probably for the same reason I didn't: when we go to the web site and > simply click the obvious links, the browser shows the version-dependent > url. yup. > It is surely possible to make mod_rewrite

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-08 Thread Karl Berry
>> than teaching absolute entry only to ditch it a few pages later. I wasn't thinking of a few pages. More like a couple more examples which do nothing more with pitches than the first one days (so not digging a deeper non-\relative hole), but rather show a few other completely basic things,

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-08 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Karl, On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Karl Berry wrote: > Ok, I go there (http://lilypond.org/website/text-input.html). And the > example looks quite complex, what with numerous colors, arrows, etc., > etc. Not what I want to show my mom. I'd make these examples simpler, too. But i guess

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-08 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 06:20:09PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: >> >> Karl Berry wrote Friday, September 07, 2012 11:45 PM >> >> > The first example there looks good (and is in fact what I sent her). >> > But then the second example, instead of showing how to typeset o

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 06:20:09PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Karl Berry wrote Friday, September 07, 2012 11:45 PM > > > The first example there looks good (and is in fact what I sent her). > > But then the second example, instead of showing how to typeset other > > kinds of notation, goes

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Karl Berry wrote Friday, September 07, 2012 11:45 PM > I start at http://lilypond.org/website/manuals.html. It says: > Text input: LilyPond is a text-based music engraver. Read this first! > > Ok, I go there (http://lilypond.org/website/text-input.html). And the > example looks quite complex

lilypond manual intro

2012-09-08 Thread Karl Berry
These are not really bugs, all up for interpretation, so I thought I'd write here ... I wanted to give a url about simple Lilypond input to the prototypical naive user (my mom, who is a musician but not a programmer). I start at http://lilypond.org/website/manuals.html. It says: Text input: Li

Re: Searchable Lilypond manual [Was: Re: Downloading documentation]

2007-01-21 Thread Sebastiano Vigna
, and you can do stuff line (line break)~5 to find "line" and "break" withing 5 words. Personally I've always found direct search into the lilypond manual impossible. Sebastino, I just did a quick check with "line break", and the first two results were in

Re: Searchable Lilypond manual [Was: Re: Downloading documentation]

2007-01-20 Thread Graham Percival
Rune Zedeler wrote: I don't really get... What is the problem with just serching on the "one big page" docu? It takes a lot of time (and bandwidth!) to load? Also, I assume that this search is more intelligent than just finding the first appearance of your string; it attempts to rank the res

Re: Searchable Lilypond manual [Was: Re: Downloading documentation]

2007-01-20 Thread Rune Zedeler
I don't really get... What is the problem with just serching on the "one big page" docu? -Rune ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Searchable Lilypond manual [Was: Re: Downloading documentation]

2007-01-20 Thread Sebastiano Vigna
On Jan 21, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Graham Percival wrote: Sebastiano Vigna wrote: I've enriched LSR with an indexed version of the manual, but I can't seem to find a "canonical" way to download the manual (a tar? a zip?), and wget on the site gets into infinite recursion (probably because of a

Re: Lilypond manual

2005-09-23 Thread Hans Aberg
On 23 Sep 2005, at 05:43, Graham Percival wrote: On 22-Sep-05, at 4:47 PM, Suzanne Blatt wrote: Can anyone shed some light as to why the manual examples are not working? Many of the manual examples are presented as fragments -- ie It is also safer to pick examples from the HTML version,

Re: Lilypond manual

2005-09-22 Thread Graham Percival
On 22-Sep-05, at 4:47 PM, Suzanne Blatt wrote: i've been trying in vain to get Lilypond 2.6 up and running on my SUSE 9.3, so I switched to the Windows side of my computer and installed Lilypond 2.7.  As a test, I went to the manual and typed verbatim an example and it didn't work.  I found a

Lilypond manual

2005-09-22 Thread Suzanne Blatt
Hello, i've been trying in vain to get Lilypond 2.6 up and running on my SUSE 9.3, so I switched to the Windows side of my computer and installed Lilypond 2.7.  As a test, I went to the manual and typed verbatim an example and it didn't work.  I found a similar thing on the Linux side of my mac

LilyPond manual - version?

2003-08-14 Thread Francois Pinard
Hello, Han-Wen and LilyPond friends. I have two printed copies of the LilyPond manual. They are not similar, one has four more pages than the other, but both title pages say the copyright is for 1999-2002. I do not quickly find in either which version of LilyPond they document. Is there any

LilyPond manual - version?

2003-08-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hello, Han-Wen and LilyPond friends. > > I have two printed copies of the LilyPond manual. They are not similar, > one has four more pages than the other, but both title pages say the > copyright is for 1999-2002. I do not quickly find in either whi