Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-25 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Hi Phil, Phil Holmes wrote: Florian Hollerweger wrote: So is the idea to simply include a link to the above .tgz archive at http://lilypond.org/publications , or would it be preferable to host a copy on lilypond.org itself? And who would be in charge of either process? I'll add the PDF to t

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-25 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Florian Hollerweger" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013 Hi all, David Kastrup wrote: [...] it is hard to find Florian at fault for since he is working with the terminology e

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-22 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Hi, Helge Kruse wrote: Sorry to sound cynical. Now I looked up the M$ thingy in urbandictionary. I wasn't aware of this, just thougt it was a typo. Oh, wow, I guess now I'm the one to appear cynical :) I didn't think about problems with the slides. I just added ideas to improve this Lilypon

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-22 Thread Helge Kruse
2013/5/22 Florian Hollerweger > Let's not be cynical about this: It was fully intentional, > Sorry to sound cynical. Now I looked up the M$ thingy in urbandictionary. I wasn't aware of this, just thougt it was a typo. I am starting to find this discussion rather entertaining :) > At least better

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-22 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Hi all, David Kastrup wrote: [...] it is hard to find Florian at fault for since he is working with the terminology employed by LilyPond. luis jure wrote: [...] the inconsistent use of the terms "note" and "pitch" in florian's presentation (which, as you said, was just the consequence of usi

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-22 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Dear Helge, Helge Kruse wrote: No. I think you misspelled MS with a special character '$' and I can find any reason for that. Is this intentionally or really a typo? Let's not be cynical about this: It was fully intentional, but could arguably be described as a somewhat adolescent and dated

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-21 Thread luis jure
on 2013-05-21 at 17:04 David Kastrup wrote: > Sure, but I'm afraid that your perceived lack of precision is something > that it is hard to find Florian at fault for since he is working with > the terminology employed by LilyPond. of course! it was not my intention to imply otherwise. what i was

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-21 Thread PMA
David Kastrup wrote: It's not as much a matter of being correct, but rather of how this term is employed within LilyPond and its documentation. LilyPond also uses "event" in a meaning that contrary to common usage does not include birthday celebrations. "Event", of course, has been in common _

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-21 Thread David Kastrup
luis jure writes: > on 2013-05-21 at 09:26 PMA wrote: > >> I think a serious go at terminological precision >> would note the distinction: pitch vs pitch-class. > > indeed. that's why in my first mail i said that pitch involves a specific > octave. but i thought the intention was not covering the

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-21 Thread luis jure
on 2013-05-21 at 09:26 PMA wrote: > I think a serious go at terminological precision > would note the distinction: pitch vs pitch-class. indeed. that's why in my first mail i said that pitch involves a specific octave. but i thought the intention was not covering the whole theory of music, but r

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-21 Thread PMA
luis jure wrote: on 2013-05-21 at 13:18 David Kastrup wrote: It would seem that you associate the term "pitch" with physical frequency. no, it's not me, it's the standard meaning of the term as used in music theory, psychoacoustics, musical acoustics, music cognition, and all the disciplines

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-21 Thread Helge Kruse
2013/5/21 Florian Hollerweger > At page 17 is a typo. You find the correct spelling here: >> http://www.microsoft.com/en-**us/download/details.aspx?id=29This >> would also be more specific at the required 'module'. >> > > Please clarif

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-21 Thread luis jure
on 2013-05-21 at 13:18 David Kastrup wrote: > It would seem that you associate the term "pitch" with physical > frequency. no, it's not me, it's the standard meaning of the term as used in music theory, psychoacoustics, musical acoustics, music cognition, and all the disciplines i know that deal

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-21 Thread David Kastrup
luis jure writes: > on 2013-05-21 at 07:02 Helge Kruse wrote: > >> At page 13 we read that letters are notes. At page 20 letters migrate to >> pitches. I think the latter is correct. > > i disagree. letters are notes, not pitches. in lilypond, letter c is note > C (do, ut, whatever), and letters

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-21 Thread luis jure
on 2013-05-21 at 07:02 Helge Kruse wrote: > At page 13 we read that letters are notes. At page 20 letters migrate to > pitches. I think the latter is correct. i disagree. letters are notes, not pitches. in lilypond, letter c is note C (do, ut, whatever), and letters cis are note C sharp. the pit

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-20 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Hi all, Florian Hollerweger wrote: [...] it seems that the error was copy-pasted from http://lilypond.org/examples.html#Early-Music [...] If someone wants to edit the original figure from the Lilypond documentation [...] This reminds me: I am aware that in the preparation of the workshop sli

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-20 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Dear Helge, Helge Kruse wrote: At page 5 is a gap in the lyrics of the gregorian chant (gi - na). The syllable 'na' is not centered on the note. Do you know the reason for this? Thanks for spotting this! No, I don't know the reason, and it seems that the error was copy-pasted from http:

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-20 Thread Helge Kruse
2013/5/20 Florian Hollerweger > The workshop slides and accompanying .ly examples are available in the > following archive: > > > http://lac.linuxaudio.org/**2013/download/lilypond_**lac2013.tgz > > Hello Florian, thanks for sharin

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-20 Thread Stjepan Horvat
re for quite a while) or to download the archive and > host your own copy on lilypond.org. > > Best, > Florian > > > > Phil Holmes wrote: > >> - Original Message - From: "Florian Hollerweger" < >> fhollerwege...@qub.ac.uk> >> To

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-20 Thread Florian Hollerweger
27 PM Subject: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013 Hi all, Margarethe Maierhofer-Lischka and I have given a Lilypond workshop at the Linux Audio Conference 2013, which has just taken place in Graz, Austria. The workshop slides and accompanying .ly examples are available in the f

Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-20 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Florian Hollerweger" To: "Lilypond User List" Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 6:27 PM Subject: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013 Hi all, Margarethe Maierhofer-Lischka and I have given a Lilypond workshop at the Linux Audio Confer

Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

2013-05-20 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Hi all, Margarethe Maierhofer-Lischka and I have given a Lilypond workshop at the Linux Audio Conference 2013, which has just taken place in Graz, Austria. The workshop slides and accompanying .ly examples are available in the following archive: http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2013/download/lilypo