Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-10 Thread Jogchum Reitsma
Op 09-07-16 om 22:37 schreef Simon Albrecht: On 09.07.2016 20:53, Jogchum Reitsma wrote: For me it still is odd to see cut C noted, and then not two, but four halves in each bar. The history of the c and cut c symbols is complex and difficult to grasp. Historically, both are derived from pro

Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.07.2016 20:53, Jogchum Reitsma wrote: For me it still is odd to see cut C noted, and then not two, but four halves in each bar. The history of the c and cut c symbols is complex and difficult to grasp. Historically, both are derived from proportion signs which said nothing about the le

Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-09 Thread Jogchum Reitsma
Op 08-07-16 om 16:15 schreef David Wright: On Fri 08 Jul 2016 at 14:50:03 (+0200), Jogchum Reitsma wrote: I didn't have the opportunity to look at Bach's handwriting. I have checked two edited versions. One uses 4/4, the other C (not cut C). So I gather that's correct. Hold on, are you saying t

Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-08 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 08.07.2016 16:19, Malte Meyn wrote: Hi Jogchum, you can find an autograph and the Bach-Gesellschaft-Ausgabe by Breitkopf & Härtel at IMSLP: http://imslp.org/wiki/Mass_in_B_minor,_BWV_232_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian) Both use cut C ;) An alternate source for the autograph:

Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-08 Thread David Wright
On Fri 08 Jul 2016 at 14:50:03 (+0200), Jogchum Reitsma wrote: > I didn't have the opportunity to look at Bach's handwriting. I have > checked two edited versions. One uses 4/4, the other C (not cut C). > So I gather that's correct. Hold on, are you saying that the second Kyrie of BWV232 is *not*

Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-08 Thread Malte Meyn
Hi Jogchum, you can find an autograph and the Bach-Gesellschaft-Ausgabe by Breitkopf & Härtel at IMSLP: http://imslp.org/wiki/Mass_in_B_minor,_BWV_232_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian) Both use cut C ;) Am 08.07.2016 um 14:50 schrieb Jogchum Reitsma: (Sent this one too accidentally to PM) Hi Malte,

Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-08 Thread Jogchum Reitsma
(Sent this one too accidentally to PM) Hi Malte, I didn't have the opportunity to look at Bach's handwriting. I have checked two edited versions. One uses 4/4, the other C (not cut C). So I gather that's correct. regards, Jogchum Op 07-07-16 om 14:28 schreef Malte Meyn: Am 07.07.2016 um

Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-08 Thread Jogchum Reitsma
(Sent this accidentally to PM) Hi Jean, There may be a better solution, but this one works perfectly for me. Thanks a lot! regards, Jogchum Op 07-07-16 om 14:29 schreef Jean Brefort: Le jeudi 07 juillet 2016 à 13:48 +0200, Jogchum Reitsma a écrit : Hi all, In the second Kyrie from J.S. Ba

Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-07 Thread Jean Brefort
Le jeudi 07 juillet 2016 à 13:48 +0200, Jogchum Reitsma a écrit : > Hi all, > > In the second Kyrie from J.S. Bach's Hohe Messe, the time signature > is 4/4, but the bars are filled with 8 quarter notes or its > equivalent in time. > I cannot find in the documentation or last years list archive ho

Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-07 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 07.07.2016 um 13:48 schrieb Jogchum Reitsma: In the second Kyrie from J.S. Bach's Hohe Messe, the time signature is 4/4, but the bars are filled with 8 quarter notes or its equivalent in time. Are you sure you meant 4/4 which is shown as C? Bach uses the cut C (alla breve). \set timeSi

Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe

2016-07-07 Thread Jogchum Reitsma
Hi all, In the second Kyrie from J.S. Bach's Hohe Messe, the time signature is 4/4, but the bars are filled with 8 quarter notes or its equivalent in time. I cannot find in the documentation or last years list archive how to code that in lilypond. \set timeSignatureFraction = #'(2.2) which m

FW: Re: Breve Notation

2005-02-03 Thread Michael Kallas
Michael Kallas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 03.02.05 23:27:34: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > Forget what I wrote, must have been looking through dirty glasses, sorry! > (The notation I saw was a square breve with 2 vertical notes) > > Bye > Michael > -BEG

Re: Breve Notation

2005-02-03 Thread Michael Kallas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Peter Leschev wrote: | Hi! | |We're in need of being able produce music with the following | type of breve: | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Breve_notation.png |(The one on the left, the one with 2 parallel vertical lines o

Breve Notation

2005-01-27 Thread Peter Leschev
Hi! We're in need of being able produce music with the following type of breve: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Breve_notation.png (The one on the left, the one with 2 parallel vertical lines on each side). From what I can tell this is currently not supported - The closest