Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread David Wright
Quoting Simon Albrecht (simon.albre...@mail.de): > On 26.09.2015 19:18, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >>I just said that because often Elaine Gould is used as kind of a bible > >>and as normative reference, whereas a notable part of her statements > >>are personal suggestions and a matter of style or pre

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 26.09.2015 19:18, Werner LEMBERG wrote: I just said that because often Elaine Gould is used as kind of a bible and as normative reference, whereas a notable part of her statements are personal suggestions and a matter of style or preference. She’s just the only one who has made a comprehensive

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I just said that because often Elaine Gould is used as kind of a bible > and as normative reference, whereas a notable part of her statements > are personal suggestions and a matter of style or preference. She’s > just the only one who has made a comprehensive publication on the > topic (with St

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 26.09.2015 16:14, Brian Barker wrote: >> At 11:36 26/09/2015 +0100, Ant Youngman wrote: >>> Actually, printing bar numbers at the start of each line is NOT >>> general practice. Yes I think it's great, and leave it there when >>> I'm redoing parts, but I've almost neve

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 26.09.2015 16:22, Brian Barker wrote: At 16:15 26/09/2015 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote: On 26.09.2015 16:14, Brian Barker wrote: Just to add another statistic: ... Which is only one opinion. Isn't that what "another statistic" means? (Mind you, the unqualified suggestion of the Senior Ne

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Brian Barker
At 16:15 26/09/2015 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote: On 26.09.2015 16:14, Brian Barker wrote: Just to add another statistic: ... Which is only one opinion. Isn't that what "another statistic" means? (Mind you, the unqualified suggestion of the Senior New Music Editor at Faber Music since 1987

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 26.09.2015 16:14, Brian Barker wrote: At 11:36 26/09/2015 +0100, Ant Youngman wrote: Actually, printing bar numbers at the start of each line is NOT general practice. Yes I think it's great, and leave it there when I'm redoing parts, but I've almost never seen it in any music I've been give

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Brian Barker
At 11:36 26/09/2015 +0100, Ant Youngman wrote: Actually, printing bar numbers at the start of each line is NOT general practice. Yes I think it's great, and leave it there when I'm redoing parts, but I've almost never seen it in any music I've been given to play. Just to add another statistic

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2015 um 13:02 schrieb David Kastrup: [...] Conductor: "Ok, let's start over from bar 1!" Viola section: "We don't have bar numbers in our sheets." :-) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listin

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 26.09.2015 12:36, Wols Lists wrote: On 26/09/15 08:31, Andrew Bernard wrote: However, you don’t often see scores with every barline numbered, and generally publishers only print the bar number at the start of each line, and normally leaving out 1. Actually, printing bar numbers at the star

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Wols, > Actually, printing bar numbers at the start of each line is NOT general > practice. Yes I think it's great, and leave it there when I'm redoing > parts, but I've almost never seen it in any music I've been given to play. 1. Almost all of the hand-engravings I have from “the big houses”

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Wols, The Henle Verlag keyboard editions pretty much all have a bar number at the start of each line. I suppose that’s what I am referring to. Andrew On 26/09/2015, 20:36, "Wols Lists" wrote: > >Actually, printing bar numbers at the start of each line is NOT general >practice. Yes I t

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread David Kastrup
Wols Lists writes: > On 26/09/15 08:31, Andrew Bernard wrote: >> However, you don’t often see scores with every barline numbered, and >> generally publishers only print the bar number at the start of each >> line, and normally leaving out 1. > > Actually, printing bar numbers at the start of each

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/09/15 08:31, Andrew Bernard wrote: > However, you don’t often see scores with every barline numbered, and > generally publishers only print the bar number at the start of each line, and > normally leaving out 1. Actually, printing bar numbers at the start of each line is NOT general practi

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/09/15 09:52, T. Michael Sommers wrote: > and if the numbers usually appear at the start of the line (which also > appears odd to me) Think of using a bar number as a rehearsal mark. If you say "start at bar 17", and that is a rehearsal mark, it would be well weird if the mark was placed betw

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread mskala
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015, Klaus Blum wrote: > The last barline belongs to a bar that doesn't "exist" because there is no > contents left. That's one reason I suggested treating numbers as referring to boundaries, not to the music between the boundaries. There is a bar line at the end; that boundary ex

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread T. Michael Sommers
On 9/26/2015 3:41 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: Well, to align the numbers more inside the bar they relate to, add: \override Score.BarNumber.self-alignment-X = #-1 Thanks. -- T.M. Sommers -- tmsomme...@gmail.com -- ab2sb ___ lilypond-user mailing l

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread T. Michael Sommers
On 9/26/2015 3:54 AM, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: On Sat, 26 Sep 2015, Andrew Bernard wrote: The output is normal and correct. What may be putting you off is that with the default fonts, under 2.19.27 at least, the numerals are aligned slightly to the left of the barline, perhaps giving the

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread T. Michael Sommers
On 9/26/2015 3:31 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: The output is normal and correct. What may be putting you off is that with the default fonts, under 2.19.27 at least, the numerals are aligned slightly to the left of the barline, perhaps giving the impression they belong to the bar before. That is ex

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Klaus Blum
. Hence, it's better to use \override Score.BarNumber.break-visibility = ##(#f #t #t) Cheers, Klaus -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bar-numbers-seem-to-be-one-off-tp181720p181730.html Sent from

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread T. Michael Sommers
On 9/26/2015 3:41 AM, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: I think maybe you did not understand clearly what David Kastrup said. When counting bar numbers, incomplete bars at the beginning are *not* counted. No, I understand. The posted example is just part of a larger score. The rests are there becaus

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread mskala
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015, Andrew Bernard wrote: > The output is normal and correct. What may be putting you off is that > with the default fonts, under 2.19.27 at least, the numerals are aligned > slightly to the left of the barline, perhaps giving the impression they > belong to the bar before. The do

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Andrew Bernard
Well, to align the numbers more inside the bar they relate to, add: \override Score.BarNumber.self-alignment-X = #-1 Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - > From: "T. Michael Sommers" > To: "Lilypond-User Mailing List" > Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:37:17 AM > Subject: Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off > > On 9/26/2015 1:53 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > "T.

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-26 Thread Andrew Bernard
The output is normal and correct. What may be putting you off is that with the default fonts, under 2.19.27 at least, the numerals are aligned slightly to the left of the barline, perhaps giving the impression they belong to the bar before. The do indeed relate to the proper bar, and this is nor

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-25 Thread T. Michael Sommers
On 9/26/2015 1:53 AM, David Kastrup wrote: "T. Michael Sommers" writes: It seems that unless I put a \set Score.currentBarNumber = #0 at the top of a score, the bar numbers that get printed are one higher than they should be. For instance, this, with the above line commented out, la

Re: Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-25 Thread David Kastrup
"T. Michael Sommers" writes: > It seems that unless I put a > > \set Score.currentBarNumber = #0 > > at the top of a score, the bar numbers that get printed are one higher > than they should be. For instance, this, with the above line > commented out, labels the first bar "2". What am I mi

Bar numbers seem to be one off

2015-09-25 Thread T. Michael Sommers
It seems that unless I put a \set Score.currentBarNumber = #0 at the top of a score, the bar numbers that get printed are one higher than they should be. For instance, this, with the above line commented out, labels the first bar "2". What am I missing? - snip - \version "2.