Re: Experience with several import filters

abc2ly: I use it from time to time to convert Celtic tunes. It works but converts the chords as markup and starting from scratch in lilypond happens to be faster. On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Noeck wrote: > Hi, > > > midi2ly > > I used it for freely licensed scores on cpdl or imslp which are

Re: Bass and treble in one staff

Hi Andrew, > I have several places where I need bass voices continuing into a staff with a > treble clef, effectively needing two clefs at once. Hope that helps! Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenma

Re: Experience with several import filters

Hi, > midi2ly I used it for freely licensed scores on cpdl or imslp which are not created in LilyPond and too ugly to use in a choir. Sometimes midi files are published together with the pdf or the proprietary format. The result was never usable directly (all voices in one staff without collision

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Am 03.01.2017 um 17:39 schrieb Alexander Kobel: > On 2017-01-03 17:25, Urs Liska wrote: >> Am 03.01.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Alexander Kobel: >>> On 2017-01-03 16:27, Urs Liska wrote: Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a compound slur that is somewhat more

Re: Experience with several import filters

Am 03.01.2017 um 16:47 schrieb k...@aspodata.se: > Urs: >> thanks for the detailed feedback. Could I summarize this as "it does >> work but not really satisfactorily. Depending on the kind of input there >> will be substantial cleanup to be done"? > Yes, I think so. > >> Do you actually use it in

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Am 03.01.2017 um 17:10 schrieb Mark Knoop: > Great start Urs! Thanks :-) > Why do you invert the stem direction in the first beat > from (at least my copy of) the original? Having the RH 6tuplet stems up > would seem to allow for closer staff spacing... That's because I didn't look at that sc

Eight note properties, flag style

Hello, I wonder is there a way to change (globally) properties of all single eight notes (flags, stems). I don't like default settings because flags are so close to the stem and in some cases they overlap with other elements while used with multiple voices.   Also, I am having problem with style

Re: How to control how extra horizontal space is distributed when ragged_right is false

Thank you very much. I've spent alot of time in the first link you sent with little luck. But for some reason I've skipped over the overview. That section is very well written, I must say. It has helped tremendously. There are still problems I'd like to fix; but the ones based upon note duratio

Re: Experience with several import filters

Hello folks, I’m using musicxml2ly rather often, to convert MusicXML exported by PhotoScore Ultimate. It is quite usable and does a good job, with some limitations that you have to live with: - it does not handle well \repeat’s with more that 2 alternatives; - upbeats (anacruses

Re: How to control how extra horizontal space is distributed when ragged_right is false

p.s. And, perhaps more importantly, Kieren. > On Jan 3, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: > > Hi, > >> When stretched to the full page width, extra space is added, it seems, based >> upon the length

Re: How to control how extra horizontal space is distributed when ragged_right is false

Hi, > When stretched to the full page width, extra space is added, it seems, based > upon the length of the notes - so the half notes get more space than the > quarter notes, and the whole note gets more than all the rest. What I'd most > prefer is that the extra white space is distributed bet

How to control how extra horizontal space is distributed when ragged_right is false

Hello, I've been working on typesetting hymns, and part of our style is that we want the systems to be full width (ragged_right is false), but we also explicitly break systems on hymn phrase boundaries. That means that we often have more than a typical amount of extra white space available, which

Re: what's the centred-text-spanner state of the art?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:30 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: >> Hi David, >> >> The text-spanner-inner-texts.ly seemed too “heavy” for what I need… but it >> *does* work perfectly, and I’ll likely use many (or even all?!) of its >> superpow

Re: what's the centred-text-spanner state of the art?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > > The text-spanner-inner-texts.ly seemed too “heavy” for what I need… but it > *does* work perfectly, and I’ll likely use many (or even all?!) of its > superpowers at some point in my score. Yes, it's a lot of code. Part of

Re: what's the centred-text-spanner state of the art?

Hi David, The text-spanner-inner-texts.ly seemed too “heavy” for what I need… but it *does* work perfectly, and I’ll likely use many (or even all?!) of its superpowers at some point in my score. For the sake of future archive searchers, I’ve included a snippet that works for me (assuming the \

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

On 2017-01-03 17:25, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 03.01.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Alexander Kobel: >> On 2017-01-03 16:27, Urs Liska wrote: >>> Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a >>> compound slur that is somewhat more "mainstream" than the original Sorabji >>> example :-)

Re: what's the centred-text-spanner state of the art?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:27 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Kieren, > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> In the snippet below, I overload a tuplet bracket to create a spanner with a >> centred text. >> >> I would like to use TextSpanner instead. >> >

Re: what's the centred-text-spanner state of the art?

Hi Kieren, On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hello all, > > In the snippet below, I overload a tuplet bracket to create a spanner with a > centred text. > > I would like to use TextSpanner instead. > > 1. I need the text/markup centred. > 2. I likely need the ability

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Am 03.01.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Alexander Kobel: > On 2017-01-03 16:27, Urs Liska wrote: >> Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a >> compound slur that is somewhat more "mainstream" than the original Sorabji >> example :-) > Geez! Apparently there's not just a nee

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Hi Urs, last year I was facing this issue and also used this override. Just as a hint is this example, using the edition-engraver. The method to enter succeeding mods which only differ by one value is the one I used. Some of the declared functions are taken from my own toolchain ... To the poi

what's the centred-text-spanner state of the art?

Hello all, In the snippet below, I overload a tuplet bracket to create a spanner with a centred text. I would like to use TextSpanner instead. 1. I need the text/markup centred. 2. I likely need the ability to have the spanner broken. 3. I only need one piece of text (n.b. I’ve seen a lot

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Great start Urs! Why do you invert the stem direction in the first beat from (at least my copy of) the original? Having the RH 6tuplet stems up would seem to allow for closer staff spacing... Lots of lilypond challenges in this piece. Looking forward to your compound slurs on the penultimate page

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

On 2017-01-03 16:27, Urs Liska wrote: > Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a > compound slur that is somewhat more "mainstream" than the original Sorabji > example :-) Geez! Apparently there's not just a need for irrational tuplets, but also Bézier curves of arb

Re: Experience with several import filters

Am 2017-01-03 um 15:10 schrieb Urs Liska : > thanks for the detailed feedback. Could I summarize this as "it does > work but not really satisfactorily. Depending on the kind of input there > will be substantial cleanup to be done"? Yes, that was IMO a good analysis and might be helpful in enhanci

Re: Experience with several import filters

Urs: > thanks for the detailed feedback. Could I summarize this as "it does > work but not really satisfactorily. Depending on the kind of input there > will be substantial cleanup to be done"? Yes, I think so. > Do you actually use it in your work, I have tried to use midi2ly but found I wanted

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a compound slur that is somewhat more "mainstream" than the original Sorabji example :-) Best Urs Am 03.01.2017 um 13:45 schrieb Urs Liska: > Hi all, > > it seems to me this should be easily doable, but I don't find the right >

Re: Access a tie from a slur

Hi David, thank you for the clarification. Am 03.01.2017 um 15:07 schrieb David Nalesnik: > Hi Urs, > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 1:14 AM, Urs Liska wrote: >> Hi David, >> >> thank you for now. This is proof that one can at least *get* to the >> right information, and when the use-case is clearer

Re: Experience with several import filters

Hi Karl, thanks for the detailed feedback. Could I summarize this as "it does work but not really satisfactorily. Depending on the kind of input there will be substantial cleanup to be done"? Do you actually use it in your work, or did you just make something up upon my question? Best Urs Am 0

Re: Access a tie from a slur

Hi Urs, On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 1:14 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Hi David, > > thank you for now. This is proof that one can at least *get* to the > right information, and when the use-case is clearer one may also find a > more efficient approach if possible. > > Just one more question (a simple "yes"

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Am 03.01.2017 um 14:16 schrieb Thomas Morley: > 2017-01-03 14:12 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska : >> >> Am 03.01.2017 um 13:56 schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider: >> >> How about the new spacing section? >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section >> >> >> Well, this at least doe

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Hi Pierre, I use proportional notation and the new spacing section is never happy when combined with that, it appears. Oftimes I just wish I could tell lilypond to stop being so smart and do note spacing how I want it, regardless of whether it is 'correct' or not. Horror of horrors, I would even

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 14:12 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska : > > > Am 03.01.2017 um 13:56 schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider: > > How about the new spacing section? > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section > > > Well, this at least does affect the horizontal spacing and allows to force > so

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Am 03.01.2017 um 14:06 schrieb Rutger Hofman: > On 03-01-17 13:45, Urs Liska wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> it seems to me this should be easily doable, but I don't find the right >> incantation. >> >> I would like to force some space between the first group in the right >> hand and the following grace

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Am 03.01.2017 um 13:56 schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider: > How about the new spacing section? > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section Well, this at least does affect the horizontal spacing and allows to force some space in. But it's very hard to control because y

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

On 2017-01-03 13:56, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > How about the new spacing section? > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section Sounds like the most proper solution, perhaps with adjustments of shortest-duration-space. For dirty one-shot tweaks though, note-att

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Schneidy wrote > How about the new spacing section? > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section > > HTH, > Pierre Yes! This indeed. I love the \newSpacingSection command it's a lifesaver! So happy this was added to LilyPond. - composer | sound designer Li

Cross-staff slur spoils collision handling

In my previous post (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-01/msg00036.html) I showed a complicated situation with a cross-staff voicing. When I now add a cross-staff slur things get worse. The red slur starts from the (upper) dis in the lower staff and ends at a note in the upper

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

On 03-01-17 13:45, Urs Liska wrote: Hi all, it seems to me this should be easily doable, but I don't find the right incantation. I would like to force some space between the first group in the right hand and the following grace notes. This is necessary in order to squeeze a slur between them, c

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

How about the new spacing section? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section HTH, Pierre 2017-01-03 13:53 GMT+01:00 Andrew Bernard : > Hi Urs, > > No solution from me, but I just feel compelled to mention that this is one > of my BIG issues with lilypond that I can

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Hi Urs, No solution from me, but I just feel compelled to mention that this is one of my BIG issues with lilypond that I cannot seem to control - adjusting fine spacing like this in my scores is never successful. If there is a way to do it, hopefully somebody will let us know. If not, this would b

Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

Hi all, it seems to me this should be easily doable, but I don't find the right incantation. I would like to force some space between the first group in the right hand and the following grace notes. This is necessary in order to squeeze a slur between them, coming from the dis in the left hand.

Re: Experience with several import filters

Urs: > midi2ly Here we are talking of program (programs mainly used to make scores) generated midi files. It kindof works, but has problems with // lyrics /// character encoding The midi file format standard says (about text events, [1] page 10): However, other characters codes using the

Experience with several import filters

Hey users, Jan-Peter and I will have to give a report of the current state of import/export options to and from LilyPond. As there are a number of tools I have never used (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/converting-from-other-formats) I would like to ask for any comments regardin