Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:40:41PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > Yes, but most novices with no knowledge of lilypond or music > > theory won't be writing in 5 sharps or flats, double-sharps > > or flats, or b/c e/f sharp/flats. > > These accidentals are common. B-sharp crops up in jazz tune

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Graham Percival wrote: > From: Graham Percival > Subject: Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 7:10 AM > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:01:05PM > -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > If the ab

Re: linking render frames in Scribus

2009-08-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Scribus will automatically refresh its PDF's, so there is no real need for inline rendering for larger documents. (Anyway, developing something like this should not be so hard, as on embedded images there is a "page" flag, for embedding multi-page images. So if several render frames could poin

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > From: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) > Subject: Re: Lilypond Speed > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 6:40 AM > Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > It sounds like there is a wide discrepancy

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:01:05PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > If the above seems confusing, consider this: if you were > > playing a > > piano, which key would you hit? If you would press a black > > key, > > then you must add -is or -es to the note name! > > The hint at the end about black

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Jonathan Wilkes wrote: It sounds like there is a wide discrepancy depending on machine/os/etc. Does anyone have any insight into how I could decrease this time on my winxp machine? I feel like if I could get it down to something close to one second, it would be a lot easier to learn Lilypond

Re: Have a title page, but also default headers on 1st score page (Frank Steinmetzger)

2009-08-28 Thread Frederick Dennis
Dear Frank, Thank you for the snippet and modifications. Just looking at it makes my head spin. Hopefully, I'll be able to use it after studying it. Fred. Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Frederick Dennis: > > > I'm creating scores for my choir and because some of us use duplex > > > printers,

Lilypond Speed (Jonathan Wilkes)

2009-08-28 Thread Frederick Dennis
Dear Jonathan, It takes me 11 seconds the first time, 4 seconds without a version number and 3 seconds with a version number. AMD Sempron 2500+ 1.4 GHz, 448MB of RAM Physical Address Extension Windows XP Professional Fred ___ lilypond-user mailing list li

linking render frames in Scribus

2009-08-28 Thread Federico Bruni
Anybody of you has tried using Scribus 1.3.5 to render LilyPond files? See here: http://docs.scribus.net/index.php?lang=en&page=renderframes If the score is one page only, it works fine. But if it's 2 pages or more, I could not find any way to spread the LilyPond output over the pages. So I can

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:33:08AM -0400, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > It is also perfectly reasonable for a person who has been writing > music for decades for it to make no sense. Why? Because it > makes no sense, and never did. Welcome to Western musical notation. If you want something to m

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 01:34:28PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > I would just hope (and certainly voice my desire) that the powers that be > — Han-Wen, Graham, etc. — would not add such a function to the base > distribution, nor give it any serious face-time in the documentation. Rest assured

Re: Have a title page, but also default headers on first score page

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:30:58AM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > So I have had a look at the code and found > scoreTitleMarkup = \markup \null BTW, this would probably be better written as scoreTitleMarkup = ##f > But there is one last thing: > How can I get the copyright notice on

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Jonathan Wilkes: > It sounds like there is a wide discrepancy depending on machine/os/etc. > > Does anyone have any insight into how I could decrease this time on my > winxp machine? Half way through reading that sentence I wanted to say "install Linux". *d&h* -

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Tim Reeves
Hello, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes 7 seconds to complete, whether I do it on the command line or in LilypondTool. -Jo

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Federico Bruni
Wilbert Berendsen wrote: on a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz : wilb...@sweelinck:~/ly/test$ echo "\\relative c' { c4 d e fis }" > test.ly wilb...@sweelinck:~/ly/test$ time lilypond test ok, this is the command I was looking for.. so... on a Intel Cor

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread David Rogers
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:58, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David (et al), > > Just to be absolutely clear, the fallacy in your argument lies in the > following statement: > >> It's necessary to consider the sound of the music, >> *and not the conventional rules of printed scores* >> when doing Lil

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
It sounds like there is a wide discrepancy depending on machine/os/etc. Does anyone have any insight into how I could decrease this time on my winxp machine? I feel like if I could get it down to something close to one second, it would be a lot easier to learn Lilypond. Also: is there a way u

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op vrijdag 28 augustus 2009, schreef Federico Bruni: > Frescobaldi does not give me timing information. I just implemented this in SVN! ;-) best regards, Wilbert Berendsen -- Frescobaldi, LilyPond editor for KDE: http://www.frescobaldi.org/ Nederlands LilyPond forum: http://www.lilypondforum.nl/

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
> Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:24:51 +0100 > From: Graham Percival > Subject: Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals > To: Leonardo Herrera > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Message-ID: <20090825182451.gb29...@sapphire> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:0

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
I'm sure it is a little more, but not much ;-) Thomas Intel E6750 @ 2.66Ghz, 2 GM RAM Windows Xp SP3, LilyPondTool -- Processing `C:/LilyPondFiles/test/time.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Solving 1 page-breaking chunks...[1: 1 pages] Drawing systems... L

Re: Staff sizing

2009-08-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Alexander Kobel wrote Friday, August 28, 2009 10:11 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: Alexander Kobel wrote Friday, August 28, 2009 12:02 AM Valentin Villenave wrote: 2009/8/25 Didi & MiMi Kanjahn : I am trying to resize a score from A4 to A5. Using \layout { #(layout-set-staff-size 14)... m

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jonathan Wilkes Friday, August 28, 2009 5:45 PM Hello, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes 7 seconds to complete, whether I

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
on a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz : wilb...@sweelinck:~/ly/test$ echo "\\relative c' { c4 d e fis }" > test.ly wilb...@sweelinck:~/ly/test$ time lilypond test GNU LilyPond 2.13.1 Verwerken van `test.ly' Ontleden... test.ly:0: warning: geen \version uitd

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Jonathan Wilkes: > Hello, > I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the > following simple score: > > \relative c' { > c4 d e fis > } > > I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes > 7 seconds to com

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David (et al), Just to be absolutely clear, the fallacy in your argument lies in the following statement: It's necessary to consider the sound of the music, *and not the conventional rules of printed scores* when doing Lilypond pitch input. Quite the contrary, the "conventional rules o

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 81, Issue 124

2009-08-28 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Frederick Dennis: > > I'm creating scores for my choir and because some of us use duplex > > printers, > > they would like an empty page at the beginning. So I thought "Why not have > a > > > nice title page there?", But because the majority does not use duplex >

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread James E. Bailey
On 28.08.2009, at 19:35, Federico Bruni wrote: Jethro Van Thuyne wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: It took me 4,474 seconds How can you be so precise? :-) OSX has a time comm

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
It took me 4,474 seconds on Debian, Intel Core2Duo T7250 @ 2.00GHz with 2GB ram. And with a version statement it takes 0,941 seconds... Jethro. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jonathan, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } About 1.5 seconds on my MacBook 667GHz G5 w/1GB RAM. Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Federico Bruni
Jethro Van Thuyne wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: It took me 4,474 seconds How can you be so precise? :-) Frescobaldi does not give me timing information. If I type in a termin

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, Whether we like it or not, there are going to be intelligent people who misinterpret Lilypond's requirements in this case, and will perhaps not want to believe that such sophisticated software could be so naive/stupid/buggy/whatever as to not take into account its own \key declaration.

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Alexander Kobel
David Rogers wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:03, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I can't remember who in this thread first suggested that when you play an instrument you "follow the key signature", but this notion is silly — and ultimately harmful (to music education). That would be me. David Rog

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread James E. Bailey
On 28.08.2009, at 18:45, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hello, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes 7 seconds to complete, whethe

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: It took me 4,474 seconds on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram on Debian, Intel Core2Duo T7250 @ 2.00GHz with 2GB ram. Jethro. ___

Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hello, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes 7 seconds to complete, whether I do it on the command line or in LilypondTool. -Jon

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread David Rogers
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:03, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > I can't remember who in this thread first suggested that when you play an > instrument you "follow the key signature", but this notion is silly — and > ultimately harmful (to music education). That would be me. > When you play a piano, if

problems with hideCurves

2009-08-28 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, sometimes, when I use the great hideCurves function (see at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-05/msg00700.html) I get, after typing \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.Accidental #'(0.3 . 0.003) #'(0 . 0) the error message: :9:365: In procedure ly:stencil-extent in expressi

Re: Fwd: Lilypond vraag: senza misura

2009-08-28 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
You should be able to use the \cadenzaOn feature, as shown below: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Unmetered-music Jethro. On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Ik heb in alle documentatie gezocht naar een manier om "senza misura" te realiseren, dus g

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
David, It is also perfectly reasonable for a person who has been writing music for decades for it to make no sense. Why? Because it makes no sense, and never did. ? Why not a \followKeySignature command? ?? I can't remember who in this thread first suggested that when you play an instr

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:33 PM, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > It is also perfectly reasonable for a person who has been writing > music for decades for it to make no sense.  Why?  Because it > makes no sense, and never did. > > Why not a \followKeySignature command? > > It would require an "n" in

Fwd: Lilypond vraag: senza misura

2009-08-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ronald van Eunen Date: 2009/8/28 Subject: Lilypond vraag: senza misura To: han...@xs4all.nl Beste Han-Wen, De laatste maanden ben ik me aan het verdiepen in Lilypond. Een fantastisch pakket wat mij betreft! Ik heb in alle documentatie gezocht naar

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tuesday 25 August 2009, James E. Bailey wrote: > It is actually perfectly reasonable for a person completely new to > notating music for this to not make sense. It is also perfectly reasonable for a person who has been writing music for decades for it to make no sense. Why? Because it makes

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 81, Issue 124

2009-08-28 Thread Frederick Dennis
> > > > I'm creating scores for my choir and because some of us use duplex > printers, they would like an empty page at the beginning. So I thought "Why not have a > nice title page there?", But because the majority does not use duplex > printers, I want the default title still visible. (Also beca

TIP] Scheme function to force regular system breaks (Kieren MacMillan)

2009-08-28 Thread Frederick Dennis
Thanks, Kieren. Added to the archives. > > > Thought I'd share this... it's a Scheme function I wrote to force > system breaks at regular intervals (e.g., four measures per system is > a popular jazz sheet music layout). > Comments/improvements are welcome. > > Hope this helps someone else! > Kiere

Re: tie in metronome mark

2009-08-28 Thread Marek Klein
Hello, 2009/8/28 Nikolay Kirov > Hello all! > > I'd like to produce tie in metronome mark: > > \tempo 8 \tie 8. = 80 (does not work) > > \tempo 8~8. = 80 (does not work) > > e8^\markup { \smaller \note #"8" #1 ~ \smaller \note #"8." #1 = 80 } > (does not work) > > Any suggestions? > > followi

Issue with partcombine and repeat percent

2009-08-28 Thread Olivier Chamley
Hi all, I seem to have an issue with the \partcombine and the \repeat percent structure... The following lilypond extract does not produce my expected output: \version "2.12" VoiceA = \relative c'' { \repeat percent 2 { g8. g16 g4 g8. g16 g4 } } VoiceB = \relative c' { d8. d16 d4 d8. d16 d4

tie in metronome mark

2009-08-28 Thread Nikolay Kirov
Hello all! I'd like to produce tie in metronome mark: \tempo 8 \tie 8. = 80 (does not work) \tempo 8~8. = 80 (does not work) e8^\markup { \smaller \note #"8" #1 ~ \smaller \note #"8." #1 = 80 } (does not work) Any suggestions? Nikolay K. -- Nikolay Kirov Kirov http://www.math.bas.bg/~nki

Re: Staff sizing

2009-08-28 Thread Alexander Kobel
Trevor Daniels wrote: Alexander Kobel wrote Friday, August 28, 2009 12:02 AM Valentin Villenave wrote: 2009/8/25 Didi & MiMi Kanjahn : I am trying to resize a score from A4 to A5. Using \layout { #(layout-set-staff-size 14)... most things bound to the staff scaled down nicely, but the

Re: Snare Brush Notation

2009-08-28 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
As far as I know, you can make the sweeps clear to your drummer by writing them down as tied notes. Every note will represent the lenght of a brush sweep. So, for instance: \drums { \time 3/4 sn2^"brush" ~ sn4 ~ | sn4 ~ sn2 } Jethro. On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, craigbakalian wrote: Hi, Do

Re: Staff sizing

2009-08-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Alexander Kobel wrote Friday, August 28, 2009 12:02 AM Valentin Villenave wrote: 2009/8/25 Didi & MiMi Kanjahn : I am trying to resize a score from A4 to A5. Using \layout { #(layout-set-staff-size 14)... most things bound to the staff scaled down nicely, but the distance of staff line