Re: Email from Phil's patchy

2012-07-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.07.2012 10:10, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 29.07.2012 08:12, schrieb David Kastrup: "Phil Holmes" writes: Sorry, Marc. To do this completely, you will need to add the changed file to snippets/new. The files in snippets get over-written when we import fr

Re: Patchy email

2012-07-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.07.2012 14:08, schrieb David Kastrup: [...] One thing that occured to me is that this contains a whole lot of public functions without any DOC string. No idea whether this might cause a problem for the documentation run, but it certainly is not much of a help for humans understanding the

Re: Email from Phil's patchy

2012-07-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.07.2012 11:16, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 29.07.2012 10:10, schrieb David Kastrup: Now it is true that we probably did not have a formal discussion of this in any rate, and you are probably quite keeping with some sort of de-facto standard and are in the unlucky

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 1320 in lilypond: Enhancement: user-customizable barlines through a Scheme interface.

2012-07-31 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 01.08.2012 03:42, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Updates: Labels: -Patch-countdown Patch-push Comment #56 on issue 1320 by colinpkc...@gmail.com: Enhancement: user-customizable barlines through a Scheme interface. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1320 Counted down t

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 1320 in lilypond: Enhancement: user-customizable barlines through a Scheme interface.

2012-08-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 01.08.2012 09:51, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 01.08.2012 03:42, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Updates: Labels: -Patch-countdown Patch-push Comment #56 on issue 1320 by colinpkc...@gmail.com: Enhancement: user-customizable barlines through a Scheme interface. http

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 1320 in lilypond: Enhancement:user-customizable barlines through a Scheme interface.

2012-08-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 01.08.2012 13:02, schrieb Phil Holmes: - Original Message - From: "Marc Hohl" To: "David Kastrup" Cc: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 1320 in lilypond: Enhancement:user-customizable barlines through a Sche

Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-08-03 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 02.08.2012 21:09, schrieb David Kastrup: Rodolfo Zitellini writes: I think I could come more or less from the 24th to the 27th, do you have already planned some of the activities? It is a bit hard to do at the current level of registrations. Graham is there the whole time, Mike will arriv

vertical alignment error

2012-08-03 Thread Marc Hohl
Hello list, I tried to simplify the make-...-bar-line functions recently defined in scm/bar-line.scm. However, if I replace the definition (define (make-simple-bar-line grob extent thickness) (let ((blot (if rounded (layout-blot-diameter grob) 0)))

Re: vertical alignment error

2012-08-04 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 03.08.2012 21:40, schrieb Marc Hohl: [...] Programmierfehler: vertical alignment called before line breaking Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken when I try to compile a score with a span bar: To answer my own question: the extent for span bars is calculated elsewhere, so (get-grob-property

Re: line_count related patches in a single commit for review (issue 6419064)

2012-08-07 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 07.08.2012 11:20, schrieb benko@gmail.com: the post-1320 version. Marc, please consider patch set 2 for bar-line related changes. http://codereview.appspot.com/6419064/ OK. Are there specific regression tests covering the repeat dots? I think they should be inluded in this patch. If y

Re: line_count related patches in a single commit for review (issue 6419064)

2012-08-07 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 07.08.2012 22:31, schrieb Benkő Pál: hi Marc, 2012/8/7 Marc Hohl : Am 07.08.2012 11:20, schrieb benko@gmail.com: [...] good idea, but in the end this patch may be split into four and then the bar-line changes would go as a separate patch anyway. See the attached patch. It seems to

Re: GOP2-4 - C++ and scheme indentation

2012-08-09 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 09.08.2012 11:01, schrieb Graham Percival: http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_5.html ** Proposal summary Speaking academically, scheme code style is a “solved problem”. Let’s pick one of the existing solutions, and let a computer deal with this. Humans should not waste their time, energy, a

Re: line_count related patches in a single commit for review (issue 6419064)

2012-08-10 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 07.08.2012 22:31, schrieb Benkő Pál: [...] If you want to cover all by one patch, I can send the changes in bar-line.scm to you and you put them into your patch. What do you think? good idea, but in the end this patch may be split into four and then the bar-line changes would go as a separa

Re: line_count related patches in a single commit for review (issue 6419064)

2012-08-10 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 10.08.2012 19:00, schrieb Benkő Pál: hi Marc, I noticed that your patch didn't include the changes in bar-line.scm – was that intentional? The new regtests are already in master; I didn't compile the regtests, but surely they look strange without the changes in the colon stencil routine? ye

Re: line_count related patches in a single commit for review (issue 6419064)

2012-08-14 Thread Marc Hohl
your patch. The attached one should be 1:1 to the status in http://codereview.appspot.com/6419064/patch/6001/7006 Regards, Marc From a267db66489cbde49377b31e09c9e0cb33fd5938 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Marc Hohl Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:30:59 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] line count issues in

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 19.08.2012 15:02, schrieb David Kastrup: Details are still somewhat fuzzy since I don't have all that much feedback concerning who will arrive when and leave, but there are some corner points. Apparently Janek will be arriving in advance. No details yet as to his exact travel time and accomm

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 19.08.2012 19:12, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: And yes, I'll take my guitar with me, and my wife will be joining, too, but not the lilypond meeting – she'll take the car and will do some day trips around Waltrop. I hope she'll be back in time each night so I

Re: line_count related patches in a single commit for review (issue 6419064)

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 20.08.2012 07:30, schrieb Colin Campbell: On 12-08-17 06:14 AM, Benkő Pál wrote: hi all, [...] ok, I applied this (and did a bit of restructuring to keep lyrics-bar.ly the way we like). I also changed those regtests that show where's the change of dot placement inside or outside staff. I

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-22 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 19.08.2012 22:29, schrieb Janek Warchoł: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:02 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Details are still somewhat fuzzy since I don't have all that much feedback concerning who will arrive when and leave, but there are some corner points. Apparently Janek will be arriving in advance

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-23 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 22.08.2012 20:29, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 22 août 2012, at 20:24, Marc Hohl wrote: [...] I'll take the sleeping bag and sleeping pad if you can bring them - I only have a pillow and toothbrush. I put it in the car. See you soon!

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-23 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 23.08.2012 10:19, schrieb David Kastrup: Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: I would like to arrive Friday early evening and stay till at least late Saturday night, possibly Sunday too. Excellent. How are you fitted regarding sleeping bag/mat/tent/camper? The two Musescore developers have booked i

Re: Issue 1236: CG+scripts should use $LILYPOND_GIT (issue 6483057)

2012-08-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.08.2012 12:32, schrieb gra...@percival-music.ca: second thought, there's two remaining ones that should be changed: quick-start.itexi: line 285 programming-work.itexi: line 982 There you are. http://codereview.appspot.com/6483057/ ___ lilypo

Re: The currently still assembled part of the team in Waltrop

2012-08-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 27.08.2012 20:00, schrieb David Kastrup: Note the project lead being on the high horse after having wrapped up the 2.17.0 release for good. Congratulations for finishing 2.17.0, Mike's monster patch and stuff! I am very glad having had the opportunity to meet you guys in Waltrop. It was a s

convert-ly problem

2012-08-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Hello list, my current work on bar lines is ready for uploading to rietveld (due to the recent amount of work in Waltrop), but ... Since some bar lines have to be renamed, I wrote a rule for 2.17.1 (which works, by the way ;-) When I apply convert-ly with sh scripts/auxiliar/update-with-conver

Re: convert-ly problem

2012-08-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.08.2012 18:04, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Hello list, my current work on bar lines is ready for uploading to rietveld (due to the recent amount of work in Waltrop), but ... Since some bar lines have to be renamed, I wrote a rule for 2.17.1 (which works, by the way

Re: convert-ly problem

2012-08-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.08.2012 18:04, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Hello list, my current work on bar lines is ready for uploading to rietveld (due to the recent amount of work in Waltrop), but ... Since some bar lines have to be renamed, I wrote a rule for 2.17.1 (which works, by the way

Re: convert-ly problem

2012-08-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.08.2012 20:52, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: After searching a bit more, git grep blank-page-force shows several hits, but in 2.17.x, this should read blank-page-penalty, so I assume when master gets updated, then the convert rules should be applied, or am I totally on the

Re: convert-ly problem

2012-08-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.08.2012 22:45, schrieb Marc Hohl: Am 28.08.2012 20:52, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: After searching a bit more, git grep blank-page-force shows several hits, but in 2.17.x, this should read blank-page-penalty, so I assume when master gets updated, then the convert rules

Re: convert-ly problem

2012-08-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.08.2012 22:52, schrieb Graham Percival: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:45:00PM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: Am 28.08.2012 20:52, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: After searching a bit more, git grep blank-page-force shows several hits, but in 2.17.x, this should read blank-page

Re: apply scripts/auxiliar/update-with-convert-ly.sh (issue 6488047)

2012-08-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.08.2012 23:06, schrieb gra...@percival-music.ca: LGTM, and I'm quite glad that a few new regtests got bumped to 2.16.0. Please push directly to staging. http://codereview.appspot.com/6488047/ Done. Marking as fixed and going to bed afterwards. Thanks, Marc __

Re: convert-ly problem

2012-08-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.08.2012 00:14, schrieb Trevor Daniels: Marc Hohl wrote Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:56 PM Am 28.08.2012 22:52, schrieb Graham Percival: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:45:00PM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: Am 28.08.2012 20:52, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: After searching a bit more

Bar line interface

2012-08-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Hello list, I just uploaded part 2/2 of the "Great Bar Line Interface Project", see http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052 I hope that it is understandable what I have done, but since the description of the patch is rather short, I'll give an overview: * the input string of a bar line called by

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2790 in lilypond: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2

2012-08-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.08.2012 21:43, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Updates: Labels: -Patch-new Patch-needs_work Comment #3 on issue 2790 by pkx1...@gmail.com: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2790#c3 Patchy the autobot says: lots of: +programming er

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2790 in lilypond: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2

2012-08-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 30.08.2012 00:07, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 29.08.2012 21:43, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Updates: Labels: -Patch-new Patch-needs_work Comment #3 on issue 2790 by pkx1...@gmail.com: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2790 in lilypond: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2

2012-08-30 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 30.08.2012 06:46, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Comment #6 on issue 2790 by grenoui...@lilynet.net: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2790#c6 Build results are available at http://grenouille.lilynet.net/patches-tests/2790/test-results

Re: 2.17.1

2012-08-30 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 30.08.2012 09:57, schrieb eluze: there are about 9 commits marked "Fixed_2_17_1" which have to be changed to "Fixed_2_17_2" since they missed the proper time to actually make it into 2.17.1. I found 8 and changed them. one or two of them were labeled Fixed_2.17.1 which makes it difficult

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2 (issue 6498052)

2012-08-30 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 30.08.2012 01:46, schrieb thomasmorle...@googlemail.com: Great work so far. Some minor suggestions: http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/5001/scm/bar-line.scm File scm/bar-line.scm (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/5001/scm/bar-line.scm#newcode203 scm/bar-line.s

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2783 in lilypond: wrong placement of timesignature

2012-08-30 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 30.08.2012 15:05, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Comment #9 on issue 2783 by benko@gmail.com: wrong placement of timesignature http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2783 ok, I actually use centre-of-staff-range, i.e. (min + max) / 2, so all of (-4 4) (-4 2.5 3 3.5 4) (-4

Re: Fw: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2547 in lilypond: Fix documentation of making footnotes work via tweak.

2012-08-30 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 30.08.2012 18:10, schrieb Trevor Daniels: John Mandereau wrote Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:38 AM There's a non negligible number of old issues with Patch=needs-work: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2&q=Patch=needs_work&sort=-modified&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Stars%20Ow

exact placement rules for volta brackets?

2012-08-31 Thread Marc Hohl
Hello all, I am just about rewriting the bar line user interface and stumbled across a serious problem: with my new approach, the valta brackets are displaced. For developing a fix, I need to know how this is properly done. Gould doesn't say much about the details, and this is the only reference

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2790 in lilypond: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2

2012-09-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 31.08.2012 11:58, schrieb John Mandereau: Il giorno gio, 30/08/2012 alle 09.29 +0200, Marc Hohl ha scritto: Am 30.08.2012 06:46, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Comment #6 on issue 2790 by grenoui...@lilynet.net: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues

Re: preliminary GLISS discussions

2012-09-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 31.08.2012 19:19, schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen: Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: Manual writers: can we make up our minds here? I've always been against frivolous syntax for shortcuts (one example in particular is the "q" for repetition). Why do we put in "q" for users to save some keystrokes, and at

Re: exact placement rules for volta brackets?

2012-09-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Hi Arnold, Phil and David, thanks for your answers! Just for the record: the image I sent is the actual Lilypond output. I think the easiest way to handle volta brackets is either using the anchor calculated by bar-line::calc-anchor or the left and right edge of the (span) bar, i.e. the bar ste

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2 (issue 6498052)

2012-09-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 31.08.2012 02:05, schrieb thomasmorle...@googlemail.com: http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/10001/Documentation/snippets/printing-a-repeat-sign-at-the-beginning-of-a-piece.ly File Documentation/snippets/printing-a-repeat-sign-at-the-beginning-of-a-piece.ly (right): http://coder

Re: [GLISS] differentiating pre/post/neutral commands

2012-09-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 01.09.2012 21:39, schrieb Graham Percival: [...] At Waltrop, you only heard about one quarter of the ideas that Janek had. I think that Janek has spent quite a lot of time collecting and formulating his ideas. What about posting his ideas and use them as a discussion base in terms of usabi

Re: slides-in-tablature.ly snippets: string numbers of hided notes are visible

2012-09-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 01.09.2012 22:02, schrieb pls: There must have been a change in default with regards to the visibility of string numbers between 2.15.20 and the current version. In 2.15.20 it was still possible to add string numbers to notes (e.g. c'4\4) without them showing up in the score. This was very

Re: slides-in-tablature.ly snippets: string numbers of hided notes are visible

2012-09-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 01.09.2012 22:22, schrieb David Kastrup: pls writes: There must have been a change in default with regards to the visibility of string numbers between 2.15.20 and the current version. In 2.15.20 it was still possible to add string numbers to notes (e.g. c'4\4) without them showing up in the

Re: [GLISS] differentiating pre/post/neutral commands

2012-09-03 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 03.09.2012 15:11, schrieb Graham Percival: [...] other people shoot down ideas by trapping it in a net, lowering it to the ground, giving it a drink of hemlock, then stroking its head as it falls asleep. This is quite an amazing metaphor – if my ideas are supposed to die, I hope they die like

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2 (issue 6498052)

2012-09-03 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 02.09.2012 22:24, schrieb thomasmorle...@googlemail.com: More nit-picking: http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/7003/python/convertrules.py File python/convertrules.py (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/7003/python/convertrules.py#newcode3395 python/convertrules.py

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2813 in lilypond: Patch: Allows user to set ChordName text

2012-09-06 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 06.09.2012 08:59, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Status: New Owner: Labels: Type-Enhancement Patch-new New issue 2813 by mts...@gmail.com: Patch: Allows user to set ChordName text http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2813 Allows user to set ChordName text http://coder

How to change the patch description for the issue tracker?

2012-09-10 Thread Marc Hohl
Hello list, as Graham pointed out in another thread, descriptions like bar line interface (part 2/2) are not very informative. On the other hand, when there is a lot of review/change/re-uploading involved, the issue tracker gets rather quickly stuffed when the whole story about the patch is rep

grob-object information

2012-09-11 Thread Marc Hohl
Hello list, for my work on the volta bracket inclusion for the new bar line interface, I need to know how the bars are ordered in (ly:grob-object grob 'bars). Please see the attached file. For the \musOne, I get a grob array with eight BarLine grobs (two for each staff) for the first volta brac

Re: grob-object information

2012-09-11 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 11.09.2012 20:48, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 11 sept. 2012, at 17:48, Marc Hohl wrote: Hello list, for my work on the volta bracket inclusion for the new bar line interface, I need to know how the bars are ordered in (ly:grob-object grob 'bars). Please see the attached file.

Re: grob-object information

2012-09-11 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 11.09.2012 21:08, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 11 sept. 2012, at 22:02, Marc Hohl wrote: Am 11.09.2012 20:48, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 11 sept. 2012, at 17:48, Marc Hohl wrote: Hello list, for my work on the volta bracket inclusion for the new bar line interface, I need to

Re: grob-object information

2012-09-11 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 11.09.2012 21:54, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 11 sept. 2012, at 22:29, Marc Hohl wrote: Are you certain that every vertical axis group will always contain the same number of bar lines? If not, it's possible that the matrix you're talking about may not have complete rows

Re: grob-object information

2012-09-12 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 11.09.2012 21:54, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 11 sept. 2012, at 22:29, Marc Hohl wrote: Are you certain that every vertical axis group will always contain the same number of bar lines? If not, it's possible that the matrix you're talking about may not have complete rows

Re: How to change the patch description for the issue tracker?

2012-09-12 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 12.09.2012 23:59, schrieb Graham Percival: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:28:36PM +0100, James wrote: Mark, On 10 September 2012 14:15, Marc Hohl wrote: Is there a way to rename the patch description that shows up in the issue tracker? I think I have seen something like this in a patch from

Re: grob-object information

2012-09-13 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 11.09.2012 20:48, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 11 sept. 2012, at 17:48, Marc Hohl wrote: Hello list, for my work on the volta bracket inclusion for the new bar line interface, I need to know how the bars are ordered in (ly:grob-object grob 'bars). Please see the attached file.

Re: GOP2-5 - GLISS discussions

2012-09-14 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 14.09.2012 20:48, schrieb Graham Percival: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:39:53AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Werner LEMBERG writes: PS: I'm still not happy with a separate mailing list. A separate fluffy mailing list not to be taken seriously where people may decide that no further changes t

Re: [GLISS] - alternative viewpoint

2012-09-14 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 14.09.2012 19:10, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 14 sept. 2012, at 19:56, Phil Holmes wrote: OK - so there's been a lot of discussion of pre- and post-fix, and a load of other stuff I don't understand.So I had a think about what it is about lilypond syntax that p**s me off. And I concl

Patch upload and LSR

2012-09-16 Thread Marc Hohl
Hello list, I am still working on the barline interface ... The testing process works fine on my local machine, but 'make doc' fails due to some syntax changes in the snippets. For example, defaultBarType = "empty" will not work once the patch is applied. So I looked at http://lilypond.org/doc

Re: Patch upload and LSR

2012-09-17 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 17.09.2012 08:15, schrieb Keith OHara: Marc Hohl hohlart.de> writes: The testing process works fine on my local machine, but 'make doc' fails due to some syntax changes in the snippets. For example, defaultBarType = "empty" will not work once the patch is applied.

Re: Patch upload and LSR

2012-09-17 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 18.09.2012 07:16, schrieb Graham Percival: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 09:06:10PM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: So I looked at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/lsr-to-git and I wonder if these changes should be included *in* the barline patch or the procedure described in the

Re: [GLISS] - alternative viewpoint

2012-09-20 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 20.09.2012 11:56, schrieb David Kastrup: David Kastrup writes: Within your own scores, be consistent in your choices. How this consistency looks, does not matter. Within LilyPond, there is a large consistency which elements are uppercase, and which lowercase. The one thing that actually

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2717 in lilypond: Patch: Implement \hidden/\hide as shorthands for \tweak/\override #'stencil = ##f

2012-09-20 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 20.09.2012 18:17, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: [...] Oh. \omit is actually even better, isn't it? Yes, I like it! I'll likely change that, short of protests. Still, something more convincing for \single would be nice. Yes, but I still have no clue ... _

Re: [GLISS] - alternative viewpoint

2012-09-20 Thread Marc Hohl
[sorry, forgot to hit "Reply to all"] Am 20.09.2012 19:02, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: [...] The problem is not people not interested in this kind of discussions/proposals. The problem is people who stop being interested in an oh so important problem the moment

Re: Doc: Improve documentation of \glissando. (issue 6529043)

2012-09-20 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 20.09.2012 20:08, schrieb gra...@percival-music.ca: We normally do not include \override in most sections of the Notation manual. Instead, we ask users to submit LSR snippets showing the \override, then we include those snippets in the docs. This allows us to improve the documentation with m

Re: [GLISS] - alternative viewpoint

2012-09-21 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 21.09.2012 00:31, schrieb Thomas Morley: [...] Hi David, Marc, speaking only for me: I'm terrible sorry that I currently can't give you the feedback you desire. Since my injury, I wasn't able to concentrate on any more involved project or to finish any larger one. Also, I let Marc a

Re: [GLISS] - alternative viewpoint

2012-09-22 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 21.09.2012 11:00, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: But I don't want to tackle around with the documentation *yet* while it is not sure that my patch gets accepted and the new interface is considered a good idea by most of the developers. So while in an ideal world every progr

Re: [GLISS] - alternative viewpoint

2012-09-23 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 23.09.2012 08:50, schrieb Graham Percival: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 01:42:46PM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: Am 21.09.2012 11:00, schrieb David Kastrup: A user interface change without documentation or regtest is dead code. Regtests are somewhat mandatory: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17

Re: Feature request

2012-09-24 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 24.09.2012 08:25, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: \beaming { c8[ c] c r c[ c c c] } Ouch. Of course. but yes, that would be great. This could probably be \beaming {8[ 8] 8 8 8[ 8 8 8] } +1 So we have another result of GLISS. Werner ___

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2856 in lilypond: Patch: Get along with use of grob-property instead of grob-property-path in overrides

2012-09-24 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 24.09.2012 12:04, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Status: New Owner: Labels: Type-Enhancement Patch-new New issue 2856 by d...@gnu.org: Patch: Get along with use of grob-property instead of grob-property-path in overrides http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2856 Get al

Re: Feature request

2012-09-24 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 24.09.2012 13:49, schrieb David Kastrup: "Phil Holmes" writes: From: "Werner LEMBERG" Again, with the suggestion above, this is not needed. This part of the rule is that the bracketed note lengths must form a complete bar in the current time signature. If not, an error is thrown. Here

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2856 in lilypond: Patch: Get along with use of grob-property instead of grob-property-path in overrides

2012-09-24 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 24.09.2012 12:55, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 24.09.2012 12:04, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Status: New Owner: Labels: Type-Enhancement Patch-new New issue 2856 by d...@gnu.org: Patch: Get along with use of grob-property instead of grob-property-path in

Re: [GLISS] facilitate changes of the (default-) drumStyleTable

2012-09-25 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2012 02:25, schrieb Thomas Morley: Hi, sometimes I heard users complaining about the difficulty of changing the appearance of customized percussion staves, The NR "Custom percussion staves" states: "If you do not like any of the predefined lists you can define your own list at the top

Call for help with bar lines

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Hello list, I am quite frustrated – yesterday I managed to get the shift out of input/regression/beam-feather-breaking.ly which was one of the last problematic files for my patch. Today, I looked at the new results: it seems to me that *every* other regtest file is affected now, but the one ment

Re: Call for help with bar lines

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2012 11:47, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 26 sept. 2012, at 11:01, Marc Hohl wrote: Can anyone with more knowledge than me give me a hint what's wrong? IIUC correctly, lilypond draws a bar line at the beginning of each line, but in most cases, this is an invisible one. If you

Re: Call for help with bar lines

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2012 14:45, schrieb Thomas Morley: [...] Hi Marc, an idea, don't know if it's really helpful: >From 2.16.0-bar-line.scm, bar-glyph-alist: The old definition of bar "empty" was: ("empty" . (() . ())) The old definition of bar "" was: ("" . ("" . "")) The new patch converts bar "empty

Re: Call for help with bar lines

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2012 12:23, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 26.09.2012 11:47, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: I unfortunately don't have much time to help you out, but I can tell you that you are on the right track doing prints to the command line. I would not, however, stash th

Re: Call for help with bar lines

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2012 12:46, schrieb Phil Holmes: [...] I've no idea if this will help, so feel free to ignore it. However, my recollection is that running lily with -ddump-signatures gives information on extents in the output file? Thanks for this hint – I didn't know that such an option even exists.

Re: Call for help with bar lines

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2012 22:43, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 26.09.2012 12:23, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 26.09.2012 11:47, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: I unfortunately don't have much time to help you out, but I can tell you that you are on the right track

Re: Call for help with bar lines

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2012 12:34, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 26 sept. 2012, at 12:07, Marc Hohl wrote: Am 26.09.2012 11:47, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 26 sept. 2012, at 11:01, Marc Hohl wrote: Can anyone with more knowledge than me give me a hint what's wrong? IIUC correctly, lil

Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 26.09.2012 14:45, schrieb Thomas Morley: [...] Hi Marc, an idea, don't know if it's really helpful: >From 2.16.0-bar-line.scm, bar-glyph-alist: The old definition of bar "empty" was: ("empty" . (() . ())) The old definition of bar "" was: ("" . ("" . "")) With regard to that, I have to ma

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-27 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 27.09.2012 09:10, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 26.09.2012 14:45, schrieb Thomas Morley: [...] Hi Marc, an idea, don't know if it's really helpful: >From 2.16.0-bar-line.scm, bar-glyph-alist: The old definition of bar "empty" was: ("empty"

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 09:30, schrieb d...@gnu.org: [...] And things like \once\no Clef also work reasonably well. The proposed "\single" is more awkward, but "\single\omit Clef" is not that much better, so maybe "\single" should change. I don't feel quite happy with \single either; just a spontaneous

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2: New bar line definition standard (issue 6498052)

2012-09-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 00:21, schrieb ianhuli...@gmail.com: Apart from a typo in changes.tely (q.v.), LGTM. http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/24001/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/24001/Documentation/changes.tely

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2: New bar line definition standard (issue 6498052)

2012-09-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 00:54, schrieb thomasmorle...@googlemail.com: One tiny addition: http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/24001/scm/bar-line.scm File scm/bar-line.scm (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6498052/diff/24001/scm/bar-line.scm#newcode1053 scm/bar-line.scm:1053: (define-bar-

Compilation error with page-breaking-page-count3.ly

2012-09-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 01:38, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Updates: Labels: -Patch-new Patch-needs_work Comment #33 on issue 2790 by pkx1...@gmail.com: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2790 Patchy says 'fail on make check' - took an age to f

Error tracking through the log files [was: Re: Compilation error with page-breaking-page-count3.ly]

2012-09-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 10:16, schrieb Marc Hohl: Am 28.09.2012 01:38, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Updates: Labels: -Patch-new Patch-needs_work Comment #33 on issue 2790 by pkx1...@gmail.com: Patch: bar-line interface part 2/2 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2790 Patchy

Re: Error tracking through the log files [was: Re: Compilation errorwith page-breaking-page-count3.ly]

2012-09-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 11:45, schrieb Phil Holmes: - Original Message - From: "Marc Hohl" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:30 AM Subject: Error tracking through the log files [was: Re: Compilation errorwith page-breaking-page-count3.ly] I did a 'make test' on

Re: Error tracking through the log files [was: Re: Compilation error with page-breaking-page-count3.ly]

2012-09-28 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 11:38, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Well, it seems to be not as simple as that. I did a 'make test' on my patch. This fails, obviously. The console says: Dissecting... Writing snippets... Processing... Processing /home/marc/git/lilypond/out/lybook-test

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
t about \delete ? Afaik it's not taken yet. Guile begs to differ: scheme@(guile-user)> delete $1 = # On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Marc Hohl <mailto:m...@hohlart.de> wrote: > Am 28.09.2012 09:30, schrieb d...@gnu.org: >> And things like \once\no Clef also work r

Re: Error tracking through the log files [was: Re: Compilation errorwith page-breaking-page-count3.ly]

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.09.2012 12:24, schrieb Phil Holmes: - Original Message - From: "Marc Hohl" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Error tracking through the log files [was: Re: Compilation errorwith page-breaking-page-count3.ly] [...] A brute force method

Re: bar-line interface part 2/2: New bar line definition standard (issue 6498052)

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 07:11, schrieb k-ohara5...@oco.net: Looks good so far. In one pdf previewer (evince) at low resolution, the span bars look a little thicker than the regular bar lines. Maybe a rounding fault of the viewer, but it would be better if you know how to avoid it. If you zoom it, this wil

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 11:01, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 28.09.2012 17:40, schrieb d...@gnu.org: hmm... not quite perfect. No other idea, though... \here misses the relation to the next item (not that \single is much better). \directly was nicer in that regard. \next would

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 2868 in lilypond: Patch: Various clean-ups in stems and beams.

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 17:01, schrieb lilyp...@googlecode.com: Comment #1 on issue 2868 by mts...@gmail.com: Patch: Various clean-ups in stems and beams. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2868#c1 Various clean-ups in stems and beams. *) Eliminates code dups for Kievan work. *) Transf

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 18:39, schrieb Laura Conrad: "David" == David Kastrup writes: >> \bar "" inserts an empty stencil, so the padding around the >> (invisible) bar line is preserved. David> Yes, I understood that. But what do we need that for? For the Renaissance music I transcribe,

Re: Provide \hide and \omit functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 18:54, schrieb Colin Campbell: On 12-09-29 09:47 AM, David Kastrup wrote: I am not convinced. Unless I see either a new proposal that I feel I can get behind myself, or more prominent public support for one of the numerous existing proposals including \next, I am going to stick wi

Re: [GLISS] facilitate changes of the (default-) drumStyleTable

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 27.09.2012 00:32, schrieb Thomas Morley: 2012/9/26 Marc Hohl : I like the idea of giving the user the ability to change only parts of the list without having to rewrite the full list; I think that this concept could be of use in other parts of lilypond as well, Hi Marc, further testing

Re: Syntactical question [was: Re: Call for help with bar lines]

2012-09-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.09.2012 19:05, schrieb Laura Conrad: "Marc" == Marc Hohl writes: >> I hope that the new interface both makes more sense than the old one, >> and still allows me to set barless music without ugly gaps where the bar >> lines aren't. Ma

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