Re: [translations] Re: Helping translators do their work

2010-02-16 Thread John Mandereau
Hi guys, Il giorno mar, 16/02/2010 alle 19.07 +0100, Francisco Vila ha scritto: > I understand it. But to put it simple: I'm not smart enough to guess > what did happen in such a complex commit, and that leads to nearly > undoable translation updates. Others may be smarter than me, so it is > ma

Re: Doc music examples should be on 1 line

2010-02-16 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 16/02/2010 alle 15.23 +, Trevor Daniels ha scritto: > The change seems to have started after commit > c258b7788db8a717b4741f02d9f5cc52862338d4 > which was applied by John on Christmas Eve. > As part of his tidying up, the option list is > sorted in line 1236, which places the li

Re: Can't build today's git pull

2010-02-17 Thread John Mandereau
Neither can I. Sorry for top-posting but it seems this error is unrelated to the one you reported: error: cannot find description for property originalMiddleCPosition (translation) /home/lilydev/git/lily/master/out/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily.scm make[1]: *** [out/internals.texi] Error 1 Ch

Re: [PATCH] Web: add @bugfixes macro.

2010-02-19 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno gio, 18/02/2010 alle 11.59 -0800, Mark Polesky ha scritto: > Okay to push? The macro definition contains text in English that is visible in the output, namely "Bugfixes", so I first thought it should be put in macros.itexi, but news items are translated in very few (or no) languages, so

Re: LSR update (help needed)

2010-03-15 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 15/03/2010 alle 16.43 +, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Issue 979 is currently blocked because a simple test case fails. > Maybe that case has been fixed in waf's svn by now. If not, try > asking the waf guy to fix it. I'm pretty certain he could fix it in > 30 minutes or so, o

Re: Unicode cuteness

2010-03-15 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 15/03/2010 alle 22.55 +0100, Valentin Villenave ha scritto: > Where's the patch? In the MIME part of the message starting with (in the email "source") """ Content-Type: text/x-patch; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit """ This should be unde

Re: git repository with fixed history ready

2010-03-23 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 23/03/2010 alle 01.49 +, Graham Percival ha scritto > Could somebody translate for the git-impaired? > > - if I have no non-pushed commits, do I need to do anything? Yes: scrap out your existing Git repo and clone the new one. If you have non-pushed commits, then save them in

Re: git repository with fixed history ready

2010-03-23 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 23/03/2010 alle 09.52 +0100, Francisco Vila ha scritto: > No, no, yes. Anyway, recall that git is robust enough as to face a > complete crash of savannah with no backups. > > In Git we trust, I trust (read "I fear") the ability of at least one committer with push access to Savanna

Re: git repository with fixed history ready

2010-03-23 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 23/03/2010 alle 11.54 +0100, Francisco Vila ha scritto: > Mm, I've thought it twice (8 left) and what it comes to my mind is, > what I push is what I've pulled if the change did not happen in > between. Correct me if I'm wrong. What is the effect of pulling the > new history onto t

Re: website translation infrastructure

2010-03-31 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno gio, 04/03/2010 alle 18.48 +, Graham Percival ha scritto: > After hours of looking at the current translation python files and > getting totally discouraged, I decided to start writing a new python > file, web_post.py instead of www_post.py. This proved to be much > simpler. I'm no

Re: website translation infrastructure

2010-03-31 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 31/03/2010 alle 11.01 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Hmm, Francisco reported that the new website infrastructure was > working a few weeks ago, without stripping the .html. It doesn't work in its current state: the page http://lilypond.org/people/graham/website/development.es

Re: website translation infrastructure

2010-03-31 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 31/03/2010 alle 12.16 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Ah, I should remove that directory. The website is now in: > http://lilypond.org/website/development.es.html > Note that doc links are created from: > scripts/auxiliary/create-weblinks-itexi.py You mean scripts/build.

Re: website translation infrastructure

2010-03-31 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 31/03/2010 alle 19.31 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:19:32PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > > You mean scripts/build. Yay, yet another place for translating > > strings :-P > > Not my problem. You mean you don't care

Re: website translation infrastructure

2010-04-04 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 04/04/2010 alle 01.42 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > "make website" doesn't support being run multiple times. That's > not an issue for lilypond.org, but it means that when you're > testing things, you'll need to delete out-website/ from time to > time. Why not deleting out-

Re: web translation oddities

2010-04-05 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 04/04/2010 alle 17.20 +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen ha scritto: > just like -- see below -- news.itexi, also community.itexi > has no dutch translation. These refs are also from the > original english version -- same argument: should we mandate > copies/ skeletons here? > > if so, iwbn

Re: fixes and questions for make -C Documentation po-update

2010-04-10 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno sab, 10/04/2010 alle 14.32 +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen ha scritto: > And then there are comment entries from inline > .ly file, such as > > #. Documentation/learning/tutorial.itely:256 (comment) > msgid "c is 1 staff space up, so is the c above" > msgstr "" > > #. Documentation/learning/tu

Re: new website - final translation touches

2010-04-10 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Jan, Il giorno sab, 10/04/2010 alle 20.19 +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen ha scritto: > Yesterday I fixed a texi2html node translation problem, skeleton > files (untranslated files with most only @untranslated markers) > are no longer necessary. > > I have fixed scripts/build/website_post.py and today

Re: Patch for LaTeX lilypond-syntax change

2010-04-20 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 19/04/2010 alle 19.54 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > It just occurred to me that providing an upgrade path would be > very nice. This could be handled by convert-ly, with an ordinary conversion rule, or if anybody sees the requirement a rule that would be enabled only for file

Re: texinfo @ mangling

2010-09-12 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 12/09/2010 alle 11.45 -0700, Mark Polesky ha scritto: > Is there a way to bypass the automatic "obscuring" of email > addresses on any of the mailing list servers? Most texinfo > patches end up mangled in the archives, and this is > unfortunate; some good patches can become lost for

Re: Files for the first phase of Czech translation of documentation

2010-09-20 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Pavel, Francisco has already replied to you while I was writing this, so the reply about the node name issue w.r.t. cases in Czech is just a rewording of his last reply. Il giorno dom, 19/09/2010 alle 15.36 +0200, Pavel Fric ha scritto: > I send the files in attachment. The .po file was sent a

Re: notation command

2010-09-23 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Pavel, Le jeudi 23 septembre 2010 à 08:07 +0200, Pavel Fric a écrit : > I have question on usage of case in @notation command > > Is it the same, as with @ref command - e. g. two commas, when there is > need for usage of case? No, @notation macro, defined in Documentation/common-macros.itexi,

Re: GUB libgnugetops-1.3.tar.bz2

2010-10-17 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Graham, Il giorno gio, 14/10/2010 alle 20.24 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > The best long-term option is to use a later version of gettext. The > safest+laziest short-term solution is to get a > libgnugetops-1.3.tar.bz2 that somebody downloaded as part of GUB > within the past, oh, 6 mont

Re: Build: another hack for translations (fix 1323). (issue2520041)

2010-10-17 Thread john . mandereau
Besides the niptick, it looks good to me. I tested by building both offline and online targets. http://codereview.appspot.com/2520041/diff/1/python/auxiliar/postprocess_html.py File python/auxiliar/postprocess_html.py (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/2520041/diff/1/python/auxiliar/postpr

Re: Build: another hack for translations (fix 1323). (issue2520041)

2010-10-17 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 17/10/2010 alle 18.28 +, percival.music...@gmail.com ha scritto: > On 2010/10/17 16:52:03, John Mandereau wrote: > > python/auxiliar/postprocess_html.py:357: extra_depth = '../' > > '../' is is not needed for translations, as output web pages

Re: Build: another hack for translations (fix 1323). (issue2520041)

2010-10-17 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 17/10/2010 alle 21.22 +0200, John Mandereau ha scritto: > BTW it should also be > "manuals.it.html", not "development...". I'm commenting this in on > Rietveld. Please ignore this, I just didn't know what I wrote at that moment. Sorry :-P

Re: Build: another hack for translations (fix 1323). (issue2520041)

2010-10-17 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 17/10/2010 alle 20.38 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > The extra "../" is present in the docs, in the output of > postprocess.html, if no attempt is made to rewrite the "return to doc > index". I don't know if these exist in the docs previously (I suspect > this is the case, tho

Re: Build: another hack for translations (fix 1323). (issue2520041)

2010-10-17 Thread john . mandereau
On 2010/10/17 21:14:11, Graham Percival wrote: Here's another version. Note that the "extra depth" thing is now added to the *non*-translated version. I have no clue why. I've spent 3 hours bashing against the build process, and that's enough for me. CG 5.3 Debugging website and docs

Re: Build: another hack for translations (fix 1323). (issue2520041)

2010-10-17 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 17/10/2010 alle 23.45 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Eh? The patch only does stuff for the online target. That's what > line 349 is supposed to do: > if target == 'online': Indeed, I'm really puzzled. I'm sure I looked at offline docs with your second patch, but

Re: Build: another hack for translations (fix 1323). (issue2520041)

2010-10-18 Thread John Mandereau
AFAICT after a few hours of fiddling this issue is fixed, let's wait for release to verify it (and not hopefully reopen it :-P). Let me know how is current master. I've built and have checked both online and offline targets, both split and big-page manuals, both docs in English and Italian (so I'

Re: Distributions upgrading to Python 3

2010-10-18 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 18/10/2010 alle 09.02 -0700, Patrick McCarty ha scritto: > Yes, but unfortunately, LilyPond needs special sed treatment, since > many substitutions are made *after* configure time. I will need to > file a bug report... > > Specifically, I am looking for a way to make life easier wh

Re: Distributions upgrading to Python 3

2010-10-19 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 18/10/2010 alle 09.20 -0700, Patrick McCarty ha scritto: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:17 AM, John Mandereau > wrote: > > I don't understand the issue; can't you just set PYTHON=python2 when > > calling configure, and in case you need some scripts

Re: Asking for and old message

2010-10-25 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 25/10/2010 alle 15.24 +0200, Francisco Vila ha scritto: > I can not extract the patch from lists.gnu.org, Gmane or Nabble. > Either texinfo @commands are handled as hidden email addresses, or > utf-8 codes mix with latin-1 ones, or both. > > Does anyone keep a copy of the message an

Re: LilyBuntu [don't read kainhofer.com!]

2010-12-11 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno sab, 11/12/2010 alle 12.02 +, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Then you need to run > ./autogen.sh > in the *source* tree, followed by > make distclean > in the *source* tree. FWIW, it's simpler and much faster to do two last steps with ./autogen.sh --noconfigure in the *source* t

Re: keep git master clean

2010-12-16 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 15/12/2010 alle 11.15 -0700, Carl Sorensen ha scritto: > Graham Percival wrote: > > For a symptomatic treatment, this particular case could be checked > > with > > make test > > instead of make doc. That'd be 5-10 minutes instead of an hour. > > Not ideal by any means, but better

Re: CG: out-of-tree building in main compile chapter. (issue3823045)

2011-01-04 Thread john . mandereau
On 2011/01/01 00:47:54, Graham Percival wrote: Please review. LGTM, apart a nitpick: I prefer to create build directory outside git tree, i.e. if foo/lily is my git repo, I build in foo/build, to avoid build/ appear to git as an untracked file. http://codereview.appspot.com/3823045/ _

Re: CG: out-of-tree building in main compile chapter. (issue3823045)

2011-01-04 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 04/01/2011 alle 10.35 +, Graham Percival ha scritto: > On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 09:58:46AM +, john.mander...@gmail.com wrote: > > LGTM, apart a nitpick: I prefer to create build directory outside git > > tree, i.e. if foo/lily is my git repo, I build in foo/build, to avoid > >

Re: LSR updates and translations

2012-06-25 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 25/06/2012 alle 18.50 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > And John M could no doubt help. It's a question of how much time they have > to contribute. If what we want to achieve is well enough specified, then I can offer to go for it. Cheers, John ___

Re: LSR updates and translations

2012-06-25 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 25/06/2012 alle 12.31 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > Yes, that directory exists. Good point. perhaps the best name would be > /build/Documentation/snippet-src? What about $(top-build-dir)/Documentation/snippets/out? (read $(top-build-dir) as "build/" if you prefer) > The same

Re: LSR updates and translations

2012-06-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 26 juin 2012 à 08:06 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : > If you're going to rename stuff, I strongly suggest a bigger > rename or you're asking for trouble. I suggest > Documentation/lsr/ ? and Documentation/lsr/new/ ? and then the > corresponding /build/ dirs will be created. Regarding

Re: LSR update - a further question

2012-06-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 26 juin 2012 à 10:17 +0100, Phil Holmes a écrit : > We have 2 options: > > 1) Create $LILYPOND_GIT/Documentation/snippets as a straight copy-and-paste, > which is very simple, but proliferates directories in git, and means that an > update should mean deleting all the subdirectories of

Re: Patchset for fixing 2604 and 2524, also contains another patch for CG (issue 6354044)

2012-06-27 Thread john . mandereau
Reviewers: Graham Percival, Message: I'm on submitting another patchset (later tonight). http://codereview.appspot.com/6354044/diff/1/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi File Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6354044/diff/1/Documen

Re: Importing, updating, translating and building Lilypond snippets

2012-06-28 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 26 juin 2012 à 13:39 +0100, Phil Holmes a écrit : > It doesn't seem to make sense to me > for it to run as part of make doc as well, since make is a required > pre-cursor of make doc. This doesn't seem to be true; think e.g. of make LILYPOND_EXTERNAL_BINARY=lilypond doc which AFAICT i

Re: Importing, updating, translating and building Lilypond snippets

2012-06-28 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 à 13:13 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : > Yes, but git is still needed so that the LSR guy only needs to > look at changes to the "unsafe" files. I think you already knew > this, but I wanted to get this "on the record". Sure, so the instructions related to this in makelsr

Re: Importing, updating, translating and building Lilypond snippets

2012-06-28 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno gio, 28/06/2012 alle 15.14 +0200, John Mandereau ha scritto: > > I'd assume that "snippets" should be a dependency of "doc". I > > don't think it should be a dependency of "make", since programmers > > won't want to recom

Patch: Clean fonts and docs makefiles, trying to fix 'make -j' race conditions

2012-06-28 Thread John Mandereau
Please review: http://codereview.appspot.com/6343055/ -- John Mandereau ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Importing, updating, translating and building Lilypond snippets

2012-06-28 Thread John Mandereau
Hi, Il giorno mar, 26/06/2012 alle 13.39 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > Here's my summary of what I think needs to happen with the proposed > management of the snippets: > > A tarball of snippets can be downloaded from > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/download/. The tarball required is the one tagge

Re: Patchset for fixing 2604 and 2524, also contains another patch for CG (issue 6354044)

2012-06-29 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno ven, 29/06/2012 alle 11.00 +, gra...@percival-music.ca ha scritto: > LGTM, I think. I'm not completely certain what I'm reviewing here. > > I'm content to have this (whatever it is) go through, but in the future > could you: > - keep you changes in a separate git branch (locally) >

Re: Meeting 2nd half of August!

2012-06-29 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno ven, 29/06/2012 alle 16.59 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > Well, if there are no other relevant feedbacks today, I am moving for > the second date then (August 24th to 28th). It is a pity that we won't > get everyone covered, but that's life. It doesn't preclude at least us > two mee

Re: building master / fixed all Critical?

2012-07-02 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 01/07/2012 alle 23.29 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > I'm not certain where we stand. Over the weekend, some patches > were pushed (by accident?) to master. One (or more?) of those > commits broke compiling, and were reverted. This fix was (or will > be?) pushed to staging, a

Re: screech-and-boink.ly

2012-07-02 Thread John Mandereau
Hello guys, Sorry for having caused so much nuisance and having been offline in the weekend :-( I'm trying to resume on this issue, see below. Il giorno sab, 30/06/2012 alle 16.59 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > I think it's the first snippet that the build system tries to build with > lilypon

Re: building master / fixed all Critical?

2012-07-02 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 02/07/2012 alle 12.50 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > It appears to kill the build system on a non-multi CPU make. See Mike's > emails concerning screech-and-boink. I can replicate the problem with make, > but if I run make -jX (X from 3 to 9) the build succeeds. Looks like >

Re: formatted GNUmakefile

2012-07-02 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 02/07/2012 alle 05.47 +0200, Werner LEMBERG ha scritto: > >> SUBDIRS = \ > >> python scripts \ > > > > I'm a big fan of splitting lists into one entry per line; esp. if > > you break at position 20 rather than 78. > > Yes! Of course, if you have a lot of small entries like > >

Re: Help with git rebase recovery, please

2012-07-04 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 04/07/2012 alle 10.31 +0100, Trevor Daniels ha scritto: > I just made a mistake with git rebase and lost a branch I'd like to recover, > but I don't know how or even if it is possible. > > Here's what I did. > > I checked out branch A > then entered > > git rebase master > > Thi

Re: screech-and-boink.ly

2012-07-09 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 02/07/2012 alle 13.28 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > From: "John Mandereau" > > It succeeds (see attached log), and failure reports don't provide enough > > details for me to investigate, so I'm stuck at this issue. Mike, David, > > c

Re: screech-and-boink.ly

2012-07-09 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 09/07/2012 alle 13.20 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > I sent a compressed logfile direct to you at 14:04 UTC on 2nd July. Could > you check - it might have been classed as spam? I could put it on a website > for you to grab if you want. I had Gmail filters set up in a wrong way

Re: Get texidoc translations out of snippets source files (issue 6351083)

2012-07-11 Thread john . mandereau
Reviewers: lemzwerg, Message: On 2012/07/11 04:15:47, lemzwerg wrote: http://codereview.appspot.com/6351083/diff/1/Documentation/contributor/lsr-work.itexi File Documentation/contributor/lsr-work.itexi (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6351083/diff/1/Documentation/contributor/lsr-work.i

Re: Fix Issue 2146 "Illegal entry in bfrange block in ToUnicode CMap" (issue 6399046)

2012-07-14 Thread john . mandereau
Reviewers: Graham Percival, Message: Hi Graham, Thanks for the quick review, I'll upload another patch when I get another review or at the earliest this week-end. Please also note my comments on the bug tracker w.r.t. distribution of lilypond.map and documentation. http://codereview.appspot.c

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Patchy email

2012-07-17 Thread John Mandereau
nge, let's see what next Patchy run will tell. If you have a better fix, please take over. commit 3301083603577a891757ef798bae3db694cbcca0 Author: John Mandereau Date: Tue Jul 17 21:56:42 2012 +0200 Quickly fix documentation build diff --git a/Documentation/snippets/incipit.ly b/Document

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Patchy email

2012-07-17 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 18/07/2012 alle 00.52 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > The whole purpose of staging is that changes that should not get into > master get _caught_ before they move into master (which is permanent). > If you put "fixes" on _top_ of something bad in staging, the whole mess > _will_ m

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Patchy email

2012-07-17 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 17/07/2012 alle 22.13 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > It is not quite clear to me how the bug went through my tests, and why > Patchy does not complain (apparently make doc does not compile the "new" > snippets ?!?). Not every change to every source file is checked by Patchy. In

Re: [Lilypond-auto] Patchy email

2012-07-18 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 18/07/2012 alle 09.27 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > Well, now the accumulated mess in master is final, anyway. I have > bumped staging to match it, so nothing is blocked anymore. I am not > really interested in checking the consistency of all that since it > consists of manual

Policy decision needed about Documentation/snippets/new

2012-07-18 Thread John Mandereau
Hi, I'm trying to make match instructions in the CG to what makelsr script does, in order to avoid future mess with Documentation/snippets/new, and I see two good alternatives. Please give your motivated opinion, as I'm not sure which one I prefer. Note that in the case you change a single or a

Request for review "CG: clarify staging branch policy"

2012-07-18 Thread John Mandereau
Please review http://codereview.appspot.com/6425045 I have tested with make doc-clean make clean make -j3 which I believe is enough as the CG is plain Texinfo without LilyPond. Cheers, John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org htt

Re: Policy decision needed about Documentation/snippets/new

2012-07-18 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 18/07/2012 alle 14.32 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > From: "Graham Percival" > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:18 PM > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 03:08:55PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > >> Note that in the case you change a single or a couple of

Re: Correct makelsr handling of local update (issue 6416045)

2012-07-18 Thread john . mandereau
I tested makelsr without arguments. I kinda works, but I'd like the snippet-list files to be updated when a tag is added or removed from a snippet. I'm working on a patch for this. http://codereview.appspot.com/6416045/diff/4001/scripts/auxiliar/makelsr.py File scripts/auxiliar/makelsr.py (rig

Re: Correct makelsr handling of local update (issue 6416045)

2012-07-18 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 18/07/2012 alle 20.39 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > I pushed this about 30 seconds before your comments. TBH I think the best > way of working is to put a patch up for comment, but push if you want - > we're going to be the only people running the script, so we can keep > upda

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator)

2012-07-18 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 17/07/2012 alle 06.32 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_3.html > > *** Summary > > Let’s appoint David Kastrup as the “benevolent dictator” of the > stable/2.16 git branch. I approve all of this policy. Best, John _

Re: Policy decision needed about Documentation/snippets/new

2012-07-18 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 18/07/2012 alle 14.18 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 03:08:55PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > > Note that in the case you change a single or a couple of snippets in > > Documentation/snippets/new and don't want to update everythin

Re: CG: clarify staging branch policy (issue 6425045)

2012-07-18 Thread john . mandereau
Reviewers: janek, dak, Message: Pushed to staging after moving the @warning as suggested. http://codereview.appspot.com/6425045/diff/1/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi File Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6425045/diff/1/Docume

Re: Fix Issue 2146 "Illegal entry in bfrange block in ToUnicode CMap" (issue 6399046)

2012-07-18 Thread john . mandereau
On 2012/07/18 16:44:50, lemzwerg wrote: This looks great! I don't have time right now to test it, but errors will be quite easily be caught :-) Thanks for fixing this. I've uploaded a new patch that matches Git index and that integrated suggestions from reviews, but comments like "Running d

Web: remove non-Free software from Easier Editing (issue 6395049)

2012-07-19 Thread john . mandereau
It's OK as it is, but why the commented out text that refers to non-free software cannot be deleted? If it's because we want to be able to find a reference by looking at the source, Git history will tell. http://codereview.appspot.com/6395049/ ___ lil

Re: Fix Issue 2146 "Illegal entry in bfrange block in ToUnicode CMap" (issue 6399046)

2012-07-20 Thread john . mandereau
On 2012/07/20 09:04:28, dak wrote: On 2012/07/20 08:48:32, Graham Percival wrote: > LGTM I am somewhat concerned (meaning that I have no clue whatsoever, but a queasy feeling) about the implications for running/installing LilyPond in various directories. Will this do the right thing for t

My cron job of lilypond-patchy-staging.py discontinued

2012-07-21 Thread John Mandereau
Hi guys, As you've noticed I no longer run lilypond-patchy-staging every 2 hours, because I travelled and moved my computer I that was used to run it. I've been trying to run it on MSH Paris Nord server, but as it builds LilyPond in a Debian Sid install in a chroot and a Git repo which is a local

Re: My cron job of lilypond-patchy-staging.py discontinued

2012-07-21 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno sab, 21/07/2012 alle 14.17 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > I've run patchy staging a number of times, mostly selfishly to get patches > into master to allow further work. I'd be happy to run it more often. I don't remember of having seen email notifications of your runs, though :-) M

Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-23 Thread John Mandereau
Dear fellow developers, I'm about to make lilypond-patchy-staging work on MSH Paris Nord server. It is an old computer (Pentium 4 at 2 GHz, 2 GB of RAM), so don't expect it to run much more than a slow but sure and regular merger of staging into master, and possibly tester of patches and translati

Re: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-23 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 23/07/2012 alle 19.25 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > Maybe running gerrit on it would be an option? This sounds an excellent idea. My concern is which SMTP server to use to handle the email sending load, as the MSH Paris Nord is a service provider for Universities and Research

Re: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-24 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 23/07/2012 alle 20.42 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 06:42:15PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > > and we'd need A and DNS records for something like > > builder.lilypond.org or builder.lilynet.net to make the machine > >

Re: GOP-PROP 2-1: LilyPond is part of GNU

2012-07-24 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 16/07/2012 alle 14.57 +0200, Federico Bruni ha scritto: > info manuals are only in english? > I can't see other languages in /usr/share/info > > both info and yelp show only the english version of the manual > how can I see another language? AFAIK there is no i18n design or support

Re: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-30 Thread John Mandereau
2012/7/25 David Kastrup : > Lilyfan writes: >>> Message du 25/07/12 00:08 >>> De : "Trevor Daniels" >>> A : "Graham Percival" , "John Mandereau" >>> Copie à : "lilypond-devel" >>> Objet : R

Re: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-30 Thread John Mandereau
2012/7/23 John Mandereau : > Il giorno lun, 23/07/2012 alle 19.25 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: >> Maybe running gerrit on it would be an option? > > This sounds an excellent idea. Wait, there has already been much discussion about patch review tools, much of it happened when I

Fwd: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-30 Thread John Mandereau
-- Forwarded message -- From: John Mandereau Date: 2012/7/30 Subject: Re: Using MSH Paris Nord server To: David Kastrup 2012/7/30 David Kastrup : > Here is what I see as the required steps: > > a) get a gerrit server set up > b) make test-patches.py deal with either

Patchy's configure flags

2012-07-30 Thread John Mandereau
I wonder why Patchy has unconditionnally run configure with --disable-optimising since last December or so. I guess there used to be issues with optimisation for some GCC versions. Could optimisations be enabled again now? Or better, could we allow developers who run Patchy tune configure flags?

Fwd: Patchy's configure flags

2012-07-30 Thread John Mandereau
Sorry for duplicating a message again David, I'm bugged by an email client I don't use often. -- Forwarded message ------ From: John Mandereau Date: 2012/7/30 Subject: Re: Patchy's configure flags To: David Kastrup 2012/7/30 David Kastrup : > The problem i

Re: error while running make check (g++ 4.7.0): missing include of unistd.h

2012-07-30 Thread John Mandereau
2012/7/30 Frédéric Bron : >> I wanted to run regression tests and compare before and after a change. >> However, I obtained the error given below after make -j8 CPU_COUNT=8 check >> >> I suspect this is because I am compiling with gcc/g++ 4.7.0 (coming >> with Fedora 17) and its release notes say:

Re: Fwd: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-30 Thread John Mandereau
2012/7/30 Graham Percival : > I'm not convinced that this is an advantage. I'd rather have one > central place to look for patches and their status (currently > google code, filtered by "has:Patch" and sorted based on patch > status[1]). If "not bug fixes" patches aren't listed in the same > plac

Re: Patchy email

2012-07-31 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 31/07/2012 alle 09.45 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > From: > > 04:35:09 (UTC) Begin LilyPond compile, previous commit at > > 1c980a9906a7ea01b9f99487e75580f7232f2491 > > > > 04:35:11 Merged staging, now at: 1c980a9906a7ea01b9f99487e75580f7232f2491 > > 07:00:18 *** FAILED BUILD *

Re: Fwd: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-31 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 30/07/2012 alle 15.21 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Ok. I just want to emphasize that you could easily spend 20 hours > setting this up, but then have the response be "no, we prefer the > old system". I got it :-P > oh, logins just occurred to me. Can gerrit let people lo

Patchy's built docs on the web

2012-07-31 Thread John Mandereau
When lilypond-patchy-staging.py a.k.a. Patchy succesfully builds on MSH Paris Nord server, it now puts the docs on http://194.254.171.80/lilypond-web/master/ This is intended for use by all developers and contributors; I'm not sure whether it duplicates docs on kainhofer.com/~lilypond/, it depend

Re: Patchy's built docs on the web

2012-07-31 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 31/07/2012 alle 16.27 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto: > I'm assuming that changes to patchy will make this an "opt-in" option - I > don't want to ftp megs of files from home whenever I run patchy... Sure. BTW my changes don't add support for upload with FTP/SSH/Rsync/whatever proto

Re: Patchy's built docs on the web

2012-07-31 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 31/07/2012 alle 17.08 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > I suppose that something could go at the very bottom of that page, > but it's kind-of full already. If we _do_ add anything like that, > then we should thank GNU first and foremost, then google code, > then rietveld, then ms

Re: Fwd: Using MSH Paris Nord server

2012-07-31 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 31/07/2012 alle 12.12 +0200, John Mandereau ha scritto: > I'm currently setting up the server with the default (OpenId), but I > don't mind changing it if there are strong wishes for the other option. Uh oh, OpenId login hits on the firewall (I haven't req

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 15.21 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > Graham Percival writes: > > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > >> If it is non-operative, it should be either made operative or removed. > >> There is no point dragging it along as purely dead wei

Re: Changes make test to allow output to be reviewed in a browser (issue 6442068)

2012-08-01 Thread john . mandereau
I have nothing to say other than seconding comments from Graham. http://codereview.appspot.com/6442068/diff/1/make/lysdoc-vars.make File make/lysdoc-vars.make (left): http://codereview.appspot.com/6442068/diff/1/make/lysdoc-vars.make#oldcode10 make/lysdoc-vars.make:10: LILYPOND_BOOK_FLAGS += --

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 15.52 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Regardless of the question of having a tuple of four values, it > would be nice to support build numbers, i.e. 2.15.43-2: > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=977 > > This definitely requires work in both lil

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 19.26 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > Build numbers are not all that relevant for _us_ as far as I can tell. > They distinguish different versions compiled from the _same_ canonical > source (so they don't belong into our VERSION file at any rate). > Changes may be

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 18.08 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Hmm. I can't answer this directly, but I'll pass along my > considerations: > > - if you try to compile GUB on debian unstable (or any other > recent distro), you will likely encounter odd compile failures. > These are

Re: Patchy's built docs on the web

2012-08-01 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mar, 31/07/2012 alle 17.18 +0200, John Mandereau ha scritto: > When lilypond-patchy-staging.py a.k.a. Patchy succesfully builds on MSH > Paris Nord server, it now puts the docs on > > http://194.254.171.80/lilypond-web/master/ Update: thanks to Valentin, you can now (or

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-03 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 20.51 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > I was particularly thinking of the download links and links to > docs (on both the Downloads page and the Development page). That > needs to do build number -> python -> texinfo macros -> html. But > at least it's fully deb

Re: thanking donations (was: Patchy's built docs on the web)

2012-08-03 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno ven, 03/08/2012 alle 10.52 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > What about > "acknowledgements" ? That node could go between Authors and > Publications? (but unlike the old page of the same name, this > page would only be for thanking non-developers/non-contributors) This sounds good.

PATCHES: Brain surgery on the build system, first stage

2012-08-03 Thread John Mandereau
Hi guys, I tried to submit commits in dev/jmandereau not in master to Rietveld (git cl upload origin/master), but git-cl said just after I edited the issue description No output from ['git', 'show', 'aclocal.m4'] and exited. So below goes the issue description, that includes instructions to tes

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