On 2010-10-09 17:46, Mark Polesky wrote:
CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAME
-
top-system top-system
top-title top-markup
between-title markup-markup
after-titlemarkup-system
between-system system-system
bef
Hello,
On 12/10/2010 10:13, Alexander Kobel wrote:
On 2010-10-09 17:46, Mark Polesky wrote:
CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAME
-
top-system top-system
top-title top-markup
between-title markup-markup
after-title markup-system
between-system system-system
before-title system-mar
James writes:
> Hello,
>
> On 12/10/2010 10:13, Alexander Kobel wrote:
>> On 2010-10-09 17:46, Mark Polesky wrote:
>>> CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAME
>>> -
>>> top-system top-system
>>> top-title top-markup
>>> between-title markup-markup
>>> after-title markup-system
>>> bet
On Tue 12 Oct 2010, 13:54 David Kastrup wrote:
> James writes:
> >>> top-system top-system
> >>> top-title top-markup
> >>> between-title markup-markup
> >>> after-title markup-system
> >>> between-system system-system
> >>> before-title system-markup
> >>> bottom-system system-bottom
> >>> betwee
Hello,
On 12/10/2010 12:54, David Kastrup wrote:
James writes:
Hello,
On 12/10/2010 10:13, Alexander Kobel wrote:
On 2010-10-09 17:46, Mark Polesky wrote:
CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAME
-
top-system top-system
top-title top-markup
between-title markup-markup
after-titl
Hi James,
> I still think a *user* (not programmer or code developer) is going to really
> get frustrated when they don't know what a system is i.e... 'oh you mean the
> stuff with the notes in...we call that a 'score' where I come from.
The entire music engraving world -- not just Lilypond, bu
On 2010-10-12 14:27, James wrote:
On 12/10/2010 12:54, David Kastrup wrote:
James writes:
Why do we have
'top-system' but 'system-bottom' and not instead, 'bottom-system'?
Because there is no system after the bottom?
?
I'll stop if I am really showing my ignorance (I am not a code
develope
James wrote Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:27 PM
On 12/10/2010 12:54, David Kastrup wrote:
James writes:
Hello,
On 12/10/2010 10:13, Alexander Kobel wrote:
On 2010-10-09 17:46, Mark Polesky wrote:
CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAME
-
top-system top-system
top-title top-mar
Alexander Kobel writes:
> On 2010-10-09 17:46, Mark Polesky wrote:
>> CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAME
>> -
>> top-system top-system
>> top-title top-markup
>> between-title markup-markup
>> after-titlemarkup-sys
David Kastrup wrote:
> The main problem I see with that naming scheme is that it
> does not reflect score sheet design, but the current
> implementation.
>
> [...]
>
> So the proposed scheme ties something presented as document
> spacing parameters into internal details of their
> implementation.
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On 2010/10/11 18:18:37, dak wrote:
python/convertrules.py:2992: _ ("\\RemoveEmpty*StaffContext -> \*Staff
\\RemoveEmptyStaves"))
Any particular reason that \*Staff does not get the backslash doubled
as well?
The reason was that
Mark Polesky writes:
> David Kastrup wrote:
>> The main problem I see with that naming scheme is that it
>> does not reflect score sheet design, but the current
>> implementation.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> So the proposed scheme ties something presented as document
>> spacing parameters into internal de
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:24:37PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
>
> >I'll stop if I am really showing my ignorance (I am not a code
> >developer),
>
> I'm afraid you're showing your ignorance as a musician.
> System and score are not synonomous. A system is a "line"
> of music which includes the
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:01 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
> why are longas treated specially?
Though I don't know how to answer that question, I suspect the answer
might help solve
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=826
Yours Pondly,
Valentin
_
On 12/10/10 00:55, Graham Percival wrote:
>> Why not push it as one patch? It seems like all of those pieces need
>> > to be accomplished in order to have a fully-buildable release (i.e. if the
>> > variable names in lilypond don't match the variable names in the docs,
>> > make doc will fail.
>
On 12/10/10 14:02, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> Hi James,
>
>> I still think a *user* (not programmer or code developer) is going to really
>> get frustrated when they don't know what a system is i.e... 'oh you mean the
>> stuff with the notes in...we call that a 'score' where I come from.
> The en
On 10/12/10 4:20 PM, "Wols Lists" wrote:
> On 12/10/10 14:02, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>> Hi James,
>>
>>> I still think a *user* (not programmer or code developer) is going to really
>>> get frustrated when they don't know what a system is i.e... 'oh you mean the
>>> stuff with the notes in.
On 12/10/10 22:05, Graham Percival wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:24:37PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
>>> I'll stop if I am really showing my ignorance (I am not a code
>>> developer),
>> I'm afraid you're showing your ignorance as a musician.
>> System and score are not synonomous. A syste
On 2010-10-13 00:20, Wols Lists wrote:
On 12/10/10 14:02, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi James,
[...]
If Lilypond users are confused because they don't have an understanding of that
basic and universal terminology, they should read (1) some engraving books, and
(2) the Lilypond introductory doc
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 04:23:49PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote:
>
> On 10/12/10 4:20 PM, "Wols Lists" wrote:
>
> > For a musician to get that wrong is as seriously incompetent as for a
> > computer guy to refer to a hard disk as ram (I know the
> > man-in-the-street tends to call them both "memor
On 2010-10-13 00:27, Wols Lists wrote:
Add "stave" to this. Actually, I would have defined a stave as a line of
music, and a system as a group of linked staves played simultaneously.
But that all depends on how you understand the word "line" :-)
"Stave" or "staff"?! Are these identical? I tho
On 10/12/10 4:27 PM, "Wols Lists" wrote:
> On 12/10/10 22:05, Graham Percival wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:24:37PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
I'll stop if I am really showing my ignorance (I am not a code
developer),
>>> I'm afraid you're showing your ignorance as a musici
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:45:33AM +0200, Alexander Kobel wrote:
> On 2010-10-13 00:27, Wols Lists wrote:
> >Add "stave" to this. Actually, I would have defined a stave as a line of
> >music, and a system as a group of linked staves played simultaneously.
> >But that all depends on how you understa
On 10/12/10 4:51 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:45:33AM +0200, Alexander Kobel wrote:
>> On 2010-10-13 00:27, Wols Lists wrote:
>>> Add "stave" to this. Actually, I would have defined a stave as a line of
>>> music, and a system as a group of linked staves played sim
Hello
It's OK, I am not offended. I am sure that none of it was meant maliciously. So
don't fret, I am sure I'll be showing my ignorance again in the future on these
lists.
=8 )
As I said to Trevor earlier, the conductor of my orchestra (and wind band)
gives me a score to play not a system, w
Graham Percival
Yes, but I see some weaknesses in our docs.
- Glossary: staff should link to system
- Glossary: both staff and system could benefit from images
- Learning: add some link(s) to Glossary: system. Currently we
have none!
gperc...@futoi:~/src/lilypond/Documentation/learning$ git
On 12/10/10 23:44, Graham Percival wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 04:23:49PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote:
>> On 10/12/10 4:20 PM, "Wols Lists" wrote:
>>
>>> For a musician to get that wrong is as seriously incompetent as for a
>>> computer guy to refer to a hard disk as ram (I know the
>>> man-i
On 12/10/10 23:45, Alexander Kobel wrote:
> On 2010-10-13 00:27, Wols Lists wrote:
>> Add "stave" to this. Actually, I would have defined a stave as a line of
>> music, and a system as a group of linked staves played simultaneously.
>> But that all depends on how you understand the word "line" :-)
Hello lilypond developers,
please would you consider to accept the patch attached in
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1281
for the next release?
We would like to add direct support for lilypond inside LyX
but for security reasons we need that people can't use
lilypond code in a
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 05:17:44PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
> wrote in message
> news:0016e6435382308cfc04925d9...@google.com...
> >On 2010/10/11 18:18:37, dak wrote:
> >>python/convertrules.py:2992: _ ("\\RemoveEmpty*StaffContext -> \*Staff
> >>\\RemoveEmptyStaves"))
> >>Any particular reason th
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:30:32AM +, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> please would you consider to accept the patch attached in
> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1281
> for the next release?
Unfortunately our development resources are so stretched that I
cannot make any guarantees. H
On 10/12/10 9:30 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:30:32AM +, Pavel Sanda wrote:
>> please would you consider to accept the patch attached in
>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1281
>> for the next release?
>
> Unfortunately our development resou
On 10/12/10 9:28 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 05:17:44PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
>> wrote in message
>> news:0016e6435382308cfc04925d9...@google.com...
>>> On 2010/10/11 18:18:37, dak wrote:
python/convertrules.py:2992: _ ("\\RemoveEmpty*StaffContext -> \*Staf
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 04:58:42PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote:
>
> it is "staff" and "staves", according to the GDP rules:
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2007-09/msg00240.html
Thanks! James, could you send me a patch for the CG?
> Of course, Neil considered that a US bias
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:20:04AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
>
> Graham Percival
>
> >I would recommend adding this to Learning 2 Tutorial. Maybe
> >somewhere in 2.3 Multiple notes at once; maybe somewhere in
> >2.5 Final touches. I'll let somebody else think about it in more
> >detail and p
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:18:37PM -0400, James Lowe wrote:
> As an instrument player (as opposed to a singer or 'vocalist')
> who has neither conducted or composed anything more than a few
> 'dittys' I can see how this would be the case where I have never
> come across the term system.
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