Re: Python path

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Manuzhai escreveu: Hello there, I installed Lilypond a while ago on my Windows workstation. Today I discovered that this installation is quite aggressive: it puts Lilypond front-and-center in my PATH, so that, for example, I get Lilypond's Python whereas I might like t

Re: Python path

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Graham Percival escreveu: thanks, path is now at the end. What if they have a different version of python installed? Would lilypond try to use an unsupported version of python and fail, or does lily only use its own installed python? our python is rather wobbly. Chances are that the insta

Re: warnings during `make web'

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Werner LEMBERG escreveu: Consider the test file apply-output.ly. During `make web', extended debugging is active, and processing the file gives this warning: programming error: Grob `NoteHead' has no interface for property `text' continuing, cross fingers Hanwen, do you have an answer to

Context aliases

2006-11-06 Thread Erik Sandberg
hi, In my quest for softcoding context-defs, I will need to revisit the \alias system. This is not on the top of my todo, but I'd like to hear any protests early. I suggest that the \alias mechanism is scrapped altogether, and replaced with something else: - junk Bottom alias, instead make is_

Re: warnings during `make web'

2006-11-06 Thread Juergen Reuter
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Werner LEMBERG escreveu: Consider the test file apply-output.ly. During `make web', extended debugging is active, and processing the file gives this warning: programming error: Grob `NoteHead' has no interface for property `text' continuing, cro

Re: Python path

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Manuzhai escreveu: On 11/6/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: our python is rather wobbly. Chances are that the installed version is a native python , and would work better. But unless you have some way to fix this, the other installed Python will not have Lilypond's modules in it

ghostscript bug with Luxi Mono

2006-11-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Han-Wen, You might follow this bug (I've CCed you in the bugzilla): http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=688982 It might be a good idea to not use LuxiMono in the two lilypond regression files... Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing lis

`Vera Bold' replaced by `AlbanyAMT-Bold'

2006-11-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Inspite of explicitly selecting `Vera Bold' (in file font-name.ly), lilypond gets a wrong font on my system: It uses `AlbanyAMT-Bold' instead. Bad, bad. This is pango 1.4.0, together with fontconfig 2.3.2. Doing some tests with fc-match, I get this: fc-match "Vera" -> albw.ttf: "Albany

Re: warnings during `make web'

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Juergen Reuter escreveu: One theoretical solution would be to introduce a new "ligatureheads.cc" file instead of using the "noteheads.cc" functionality. However, it turned out that almost all of the functionality of noteheads.cc would > have to be cloned. Even worse, some other parts of lily

Re: Context aliases

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Erik Sandberg escreveu: hi, In my quest for softcoding context-defs, I will need to revisit the \alias system. This is not on the top of my todo, but I'd like to hear any protests early. I suggest that the \alias mechanism is scrapped altogether, and replaced with something else: - junk Bo

Re: ghostscript bug with Luxi Mono

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Werner LEMBERG escreveu: Han-Wen, You might follow this bug (I've CCed you in the bugzilla): http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=688982 It might be a good idea to not use LuxiMono in the two lilypond regression files... This doesn't happen with GS rev. 7120, and neither with TTF p

Re: `Vera Bold' replaced by `AlbanyAMT-Bold'

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Werner LEMBERG escreveu: Is this a problem on my side? Is my fontconfig version too old? This is a fontconfig problem, and should be reported over there. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.l

Re: ghostscript bug with Luxi Mono

2006-11-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > It might be a good idea to not use LuxiMono in the two lilypond > > regression files... > > This doesn't happen with GS rev. 7120, and neither with TTF patches > for GS 8.15. OK, I've just checked out the SVN and will use it. Werner ___ lily

Re: `Vera Bold' replaced by `AlbanyAMT-Bold'

2006-11-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > Is this a problem on my side? Is my fontconfig version too old? > > This is a fontconfig problem, and should be reported over there. Hmm. What do you get with fc-match? Just for comparison purposes. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: `Vera Bold' replaced by `AlbanyAMT-Bold'

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Werner LEMBERG escreveu: Is this a problem on my side? Is my fontconfig version too old? This is a fontconfig problem, and should be reported over there. Hmm. What do you get with fc-match? Just for comparison purposes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] lilypond]$ fc-match Vera DejaVuLGCSans.ttf: "DejaV

Re: warnings during `make web'

2006-11-06 Thread Juergen Reuter
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Juergen Reuter escreveu: One theoretical solution would be to introduce a new "ligatureheads.cc" file instead of using the "noteheads.cc" functionality. However, it turned out that almost all of the functionality of noteheads.cc would have to be cl

Re: warnings during `make web'

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Juergen Reuter escreveu: The easiest solution that I can see is to tolerate little polution of "noteheads.cc" and just add the missing interface declaration at the end of this file. However, that's not my decision... I think that this is going about the problem in the wrong way. Given how m

Re: Further GUB problems

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Jan Nieuwenhuizen escreveu: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]' It seems that libgmp.so in local was linked against another libc than the libc we're linking against now. Can you check the libc.* files in local/system/usr/lib and linux-64/sys

Re: Further GUB problems

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Jan Nieuwenhuizen escreveu: make bootstrap GUB_CVS=1 make download native BRANCH=HEAD ... boom what kind of boom are we talking about now? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-devel mailin

Re: warnings during `make web'

2006-11-06 Thread Juergen Reuter
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: The formatting backend doesn't use subclassing at all, except for the spanner vs. item distinction. Therefore, subclassing by definition is the wrong approach. How to organize code should be decided by looking which code is shared. This is easiest to

Re: warnings during `make web'

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Juergen Reuter escreveu: Ok, this may work provided that there is no code elsewhere in lily that receives grobs, looks into them and does some things if and only if this grob is a NoteHead. Otherwise, this code would not apply to ligature heads, thus failing special treatment of note heads th

Re: Further GUB problems

2006-11-06 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> ... boom > > what kind of boom are we talking about now? There is problem with the linker path, that creates a mix between libraries in local and linux-x86. linux-x86's config.log says: configure:8612: i686-linux-gcc -I/home/janneke/bzr/gub/

Re: Further GUB problems

2006-11-06 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > so configure is called with an environment setting (LDFLAGS?) that > makes gcc look in local. The problem is LD_LIBRARY_PATH. $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/janneke/bzr/gub/target/local/system/usr/lib target/linux-x86/system/usr/cross/bin/i686-linux-gcc

Re: warnings during `make web'

2006-11-06 Thread Juergen Reuter
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Juergen Reuter escreveu: Ok, this may work provided that there is no code elsewhere in lily that receives grobs, looks into them and does some things if and only if this grob is a NoteHead. Otherwise, this code would not apply to ligature heads, t

Re: Python path

2006-11-06 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Also, I wonder what would make the Lilypond version "wobbly". > > We cross-compile Python on a linux box, using the MinGW GCC > compiler. All sorts of things tend to go wrong when creating when > creating python modules from windows DLLs. Wobbly or

Re: Further GUB problems

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Jan Nieuwenhuizen escreveu: So, either we wrap all executables in local, or we call the cross compiler `LD_LIBRARY_PATH= i686-linux-gcc'. the latter is the quickest fix, I presume. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for M

Re: Python path

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Jan Nieuwenhuizen escreveu: The question is: how much do we want to make sure that lilypond just works after installation, and how much do we want to break someone's python preference? The breakage would occur with people that have python installed themselves; I think it's safe to assume that

Re: Context aliases

2006-11-06 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 06 November 2006 13:04, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Erik Sandberg escreveu: > > hi, > > > > In my quest for softcoding context-defs, I will need to revisit the > > \alias system. This is not on the top of my todo, but I'd like to hear > > any protests early. > > > > I suggest that the \alia

Re: Context aliases

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Erik Sandberg escreveu: I think this will be an improvement, because we remove the concept of aliases, which confuses users (at least it confuses me a bit); in addition we don't need to do anything extra to softcode aliases. I don't understand. How will this work in practice? Ie. if I do \

Re: beam breaking in tuplets

2006-11-06 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 06 November 2006 12:59, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Erik Sandberg wrote: > > On Monday 06 November 2006 09:25, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > > > > Mats, do you think it would be useful with an operator \newClone to clone > > the current context? E.g. > > \new Staff \with {\consists Foo_engraver bar

Re: `Vera Bold' replaced by `AlbanyAMT-Bold'

2006-11-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > Hmm. What do you get with fc-match? Just for comparison purposes. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] lilypond]$ fc-match Vera > DejaVuLGCSans.ttf: "DejaVu LGC Sans" "Book" Ah, ok, so you also don't get `Vera'. This is good to know. And which font is finally used in your environment for font-name.ly?

Re: `Vera Bold' replaced by `AlbanyAMT-Bold'

2006-11-06 Thread Karl Hammar
Werner: > > > Hmm. What do you get with fc-match? Just for comparison purposes. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] lilypond]$ fc-match Vera > > DejaVuLGCSans.ttf: "DejaVu LGC Sans" "Book" > Ah, ok, so you also don't get `Vera'. This is good to know. ... Don't be too happy: $ fc-match Vera Bitstream-Ver

Re: documentation translation

2006-11-06 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 à 15:02 -0800, Graham Percival a écrit : > John Mandereau wrote: > > A number of French users have created a page or a section about Lily on > > their personal sites, sometimes with briliant ideas and words explaining > > what LilyPond is and does. That's great and bad

Re: `Vera Bold' replaced by `AlbanyAMT-Bold'

2006-11-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > > > Hmm. What do you get with fc-match? Just for comparison purposes. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] lilypond]$ fc-match Vera > > > DejaVuLGCSans.ttf: "DejaVu LGC Sans" "Book" > > Ah, ok, so you also don't get `Vera'. This is good to know. > ... > > Don't be too happy: > > $ fc-match Vera > B

CVS 2006-Nov-11 22:30 MET compilation error

2006-11-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Processing `/home/wl/cvs/lilypond.compiled/ly/generate-documentation.ly' Parsing...[...][scm/document-backend.scm error: define-grob-properties.scm: can't find interface for property: balloon-text Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-

Re: documentation translation

2006-11-06 Thread John Mandereau
Francisco Vila wrote: > I'd like to start the translation of all docs to spanish. I beg your > advice on how to easily do this, in a manner that it keeps being > integrated with new developments. > > - which files to translate and what parts of them > - what to do with the translated files, who I

Re: CVS 2006-Nov-11 22:30 MET compilation error

2006-11-06 Thread Erlend Aasland
Fixed in CVSErlendOn 11/6/06, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Processing `/home/wl/cvs/lilypond.compiled/ly/generate-documentation.ly'Parsing...[...][scm/document-backend.scmerror: define-grob-properties.scm: can't find interface for property: balloon-text Werner__

Re: CVS 2006-Nov-11 22:30 MET compilation error

2006-11-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Erlend Aasland escreveu: Fixed in CVS this was actually fixed in GIT some time ago, see http://repo.or.cz/w/lilypond.git?a=commit;h=db1423b71d013ba9ef07a74ddf15e16e6e6b4368 the plan is to move asap to GIT on savannah.gnu.org but this still is pending some technical issues (not in the last p

Re: Python path

2006-11-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson
My experience is that the native Python installation has always worked better than the python bundled with LilyPond, so for that reason I don't see any problems to move lilypond to the end of the PATH. However, I'm more worried about Ghostscript dependencies, especially if the user happens to ha

Re: Context aliases

2006-11-06 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 06 November 2006 17:02, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Erik Sandberg escreveu: > >>> I think this will be an improvement, because we remove the concept of > >>> aliases, which confuses users (at least it confuses me a bit); in > >>> addition we don't need to do anything extra to softcode alias