Re: tutorial and relative

2007-01-07 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I t would be quite > > nice if we could tell people "unless otherwise specified, all examples > > in the notation manual are implicitly inside". > > > > \relative c' { > > %%% printed text > > } > > Yes, but that's not poss

From complex to simple: Re: tutorial and relative

2006-12-30 Thread Donald Axel
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:44:10 +0100 Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If anything, I think we should be looking to remove the optional > > pitch argument, and force people to specify the octave in the first > > note > > Yes, I agree.

Re: tutorial and relative

2006-12-30 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I disagree; faking snippets is what started the whole thing. I think > we should simply not explain it for the first few snippets (ie the > "here's how to use lilypad" stuff), and explain it in 2.2. Ok. Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: tutorial and relative

2006-12-30 Thread Graham Percival
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: If anything, I think we should be looking to remove the optional pitch argument, and force people to specify the octave in the first note Yes, I agree. But I think we can explain that when we get to octave entry, and shoul

Re: tutorial and relative

2006-12-30 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If anything, I think we should be looking to remove the optional pitch > argument, and force people to specify the octave in the first note Yes, I agree. But I think we can explain that when we get to octave entry, and should fake it in the first fe

Re: tutorial and relative

2006-12-30 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> * use more complete and interesting examples lateron to explain >> several related concepts > > Maybe, maybe not. I'd have to judge those on an individual basis. Yes, of course. Attempts were the lead sheets, piano part, orchestral part. > I

Re: tutorial and relative

2006-12-30 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Graham Percival escreveu: >> * only tell novices about relative mode, because that is what you'll >> use anyway (apropos: we have made several attempts to make \relative >> the default, and introduce an \absolute keyword/mode for expert >> use, eg algorithmic composition. we still ma

Re: tutorial and relative

2006-12-30 Thread Graham Percival
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: * have a very gentle entry introducing only one concept at a time Agreed. * have learnful examples that clearly show the most interesting thing, but not necessarily ready-to-copy (and we introduced clickable-ly's for that I disagree somewhat, and the rec

tutorial and relative

2006-12-29 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Graham is doing some great work on the tutorial and handling the wave of absolute beginners guide enthousiasm. However, I noticed that at the start of the tutorial, relative has been removed and instead of showing only pitches first the first entry now also shows octavation quotes @example