2010/5/28 Graham Percival :
> Look, discussion is OVER.
Not before I apologize. God knows I was NOT trying to be insulting.
So, sorry if it sounded that way.
Du you really think I was laughing at him?
Furthermore, I lasted months before being able to make decent doc
patches, and several more mon
2010/5/28 Kieren MacMillan :
> I'm simply pointing out that the tools -- including my own computer, of
> course -- are more likely to blame than "user error"
I now understand.
Sorry again for my badly worded comment.
--
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com
Hi Francisco:
> Here, you are not comparing *installation* of well known,
> widespread things with *compiling* lilypond, are you?
To be clear:
1. I have installed many other build systems -- usually on my own (i.e.,
with only written/electronic documentation and web links, but no live
"ment
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 06:45:56PM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote:
> Here, you are not comparing *installation* of well known, widespread
> things with *compiling* lilypond, are you?
oh, FFS...!
Look, our development environment sucks. Get over it.
Kieren has tried, twice, to get it working. He's
2010/5/28 Kieren MacMillan :
> I've installed full LaTeX installations on several different machines and
> OSes; again, first time each time. In fact, I've done a number of fairly
> complex installations -- database servers, web servers, and so on -- and most
> have gone smoothly, where eventual
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 09:18:36AM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote:
>
> If your step 4:
>
> ./autogen.sh
>
> fails, then you may have a bunch of work to get the prerequisites installed.
>
> And if
>
> make doc
>
> fails, then you have a bunch of work to try to figure out what to do to make
> it w
On 5/28/10 8:13 AM, "James Lowe" wrote:
> Carl,
>
> Carl Sorensen wrote:
>> "Simple" and "doc build" should not be used in the same sentence regarding
>> LilyPond, IMO. I think that the doc build is probably the most complicated
>> thing that a LilyPond setup will ever do.
>
> From my own
Hi all,
> My personal preference would be for you to be willing to risk some specified
> maximum time now (say, 2 hours), and agree to try once more when Graham can
> guarantee success if you can't get the install to work. I think that in less
> than 2 hours, you'd be up and running (although the
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 3:13 PM, James Lowe wrote:
> From my own personal perspective (assuming I have the Lilybuntu installed).
Heh, perfect example of the "well-intentioned but misleading" advice
that this mailing list is famous for! :)
> 1. Download lilygit.tcl - change permissions so I can
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote:
>
> "Simple" and "doc build" should not be used in the same sentence regarding
> LilyPond, IMO. I think that the doc build is probably the most complicated
> thing that a LilyPond setup will ever do.
Agreed in a technical sense, but in a "com
On 5/28/10 6:32 AM, "Kieren MacMillan"
wrote:
> Hi James,
>
>> my point is that it really isn't that hard to set up even for a complete
>> beginner.
>
> I've done Java programming in Eclipse with WebObjects Frameworks and WOLips --
> the setup for that was "complicated" (i.e., tedious and ti
Carl,
Carl Sorensen wrote:
"Simple" and "doc build" should not be used in the same sentence regarding
LilyPond, IMO. I think that the doc build is probably the most complicated
thing that a LilyPond setup will ever do.
From my own personal perspective (assuming I have the Lilybuntu installed)
On 5/28/10 6:32 AM, "Kieren MacMillan"
wrote:
use a 1.5GB VM
>
> I wish someone had suggested a VM when I *first* started to set up the
> environment -- as Carl noted, by the time someone (Graham?) suggested a VM, I
> was already beyond frustrated with the huge number of hair-pulling hours I
Kieren,
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
I refuse to believe it's my incompetence alone that caused this problem. :-p
:-P
:)
I wasn't at all meaning to imply you were incompetent, but (and for the
benefit of others that may have been reading this thread) that some of
us had updated the documents
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Kieren MacMillan
wrote:
>
> I'm happy to continue with the VM install I've started... but Graham (the
> expert, AFAICT) is recommending that I wait.
To elaborate:
Given your background, attitude, and daily use of lilypond for your
composition job, you're an idea
Hi James,
> my point is that it really isn't that hard to set up even for a complete
> beginner.
I've done Java programming in Eclipse with WebObjects Frameworks and WOLips --
the setup for that was "complicated" (i.e., tedious and time-consuming), but I
was able to accomplish it on three diff
hello,
Francisco Vila wrote:
2010/5/27 William Bajzek :
My experience has been that getting the build system going on GNU/Linux
systems is, while not trivial, certainly much more reliable than on OS/X.
On OS/X, we're kind of on our own. And on Windows, it's even worse.
But I thought that th
2010/5/27 William Bajzek :
> On May 27, 2010, at 8:33 AM, lilypond-devel-requ...@gnu.org wrote:
>
>> Did you ever try LilyBuntu? IIRC, you were trying to get it set up on your
>> Mac without success, and when Graham suggested you try LilyBuntu you were
>> too disgusted with the time you'd spent tr
On May 27, 2010, at 8:33 AM, lilypond-devel-requ...@gnu.org wrote:
> Did you ever try LilyBuntu? IIRC, you were trying to get it set up on your
> Mac without success, and when Graham suggested you try LilyBuntu you were
> too disgusted with the time you'd spent trying to get it going on your Mac
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