Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 09:23:00AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > My suggestion - unless there are _real_ problems with my patch (and > there aren't) let's start focussing on other shitty bits of > documentation now that I've fixed this shitty element of the NR. ... ok. By my "working rule" (he who

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 02:49:21PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote Saturday, July 14, 2012 1:29 PM > > > I think that most of these bad presentations are due to the fact that > > proofreading is done with the HTML version. We should then advocate > > that the "fi

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote Saturday, July 14, 2012 1:29 PM > I think that most of these bad presentations are due to the fact that > proofreading is done with the HTML version. We should then advocate > that the "final draft" before pushing a patch that touches any part of > the documentat

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-14 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 13/07/2012 10:23, Phil Holmes disait : - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" Anyway, my current understanding is that there are three realistic options: 1) --- linewidth -- fromsome kind of emergency-stretch-tweak --- linewidth -- 2) manua

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-13 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "David Kastrup" Cc: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:40 AM Subject: Re: Texinfo help, please On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:45:24PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival writes: > Hmm. So there

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-13 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:01:52AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> > Sorry, I should have specified "absolutely no way to get --- >> > without any mixing of content and layout commands". I think we >> > should minimize any layout-specific

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:01:52AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > Sorry, I should have specified "absolutely no way to get --- > > without any mixing of content and layout commands". I think we > > should minimize any layout-specific commands in our docs. > > It's n

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-12 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:45:24PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> > Hmm. So there's absolutely no way to get >> > >> > --- linewidth -- >> > from some kind of >> > emergency-stretch-tweak >> > --- linewidth -- >> >

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:45:24PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > Hmm. So there's absolutely no way to get > > > > --- linewidth -- > > from some kind of > > emergency-stretch-tweak > > --- linewidth -- > > > > ? that's a shame. > > If you w

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:28:35PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> More like >> >> --- linewidth -- >> Thisisaparagraph >> which has a really long >> word and has benefitted >> from some kind of >> emergency-stretch-tweak >> w

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:28:35PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > More like > > --- linewidth -- > Thisisaparagraph > which has a really long > word and has benefitted > from some kind of > emergency-stretch-tweak > which isn't IMO exactly what > we wa

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > From what i understand (based on David's description) the result in > second case would rather be > > --- linewidth -- > This is a paragraph which > has a really long word and > has benefitted from some > kind of > emergency-stretc

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
>From what i understand (based on David's description) the result in second case would rather be --- linewidth -- This is a paragraph which has a really long word and has benefitted from some kind of emergency-stretch-tweak which isn't IMO exactly what we

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:45:49PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > Sure. So we're asking if TeX can be tweaked to consider > > additional solutions. (namely, "always add a line-break before > > anything with an overfull hbox, regardless of what that makes the > > res

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:45 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >>> Sure. So we're asking if TeX can be tweaked to consider >>> additional solutions. (namely, "always add a line-break before >>> anything with an overfull hbox, regardless of what that m

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:45 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: >> Sure. So we're asking if TeX can be tweaked to consider >> additional solutions. (namely, "always add a line-break before >> anything with an overfull hbox, regardless of what that makes the >> rest of that parag

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:50:21PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Janek Warchoł writes: >> >> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:56 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> >> >> "Phil Holmes" writes: >> >> > It should wrap between the words "the file" and the filename. > > +1 > >> >

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:50:21PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:56 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> > >> "Phil Holmes" writes: > >> > It should wrap between the words "the file" and the filename. +1 > > It would probably be less ugly that an

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:56 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> "Phil Holmes" writes: >> > It should wrap between the words "the file" and the filename. >> >> Obviously not enough stretchability for that to fit. You can try >> >> @tex >> \global\emergencystretch=5in >> @end

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:56 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > > "Phil Holmes" writes: > > It should wrap between the words "the file" and the filename. > > Obviously not enough stretchability for that to fit. You can try > > @tex > \global\emergencystretch=5in > @end tex > > and see where this gets yo

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Texinfo help, please "Phil Holmes" writes: - Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Wednesday, Jul

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "David Kastrup" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:22 PM > Subject: Re: Texinfo help, please > > >> "Phil Holmes" writes: >> >>> I'm doing a little

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Texinfo help, please "Phil Holmes" writes: I'm doing a little project to get rid of all the black bars on the right side of the PDF of the NR - these indi

Re: Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > I'm doing a little project to get rid of all the black bars on the > right side of the PDF of the NR - these indicate material that is too > wide to be properly accommodated on the page. One of the things that > causes this is text like: > > Fret diagrams for the ukulele

Texinfo help, please

2012-07-11 Thread Phil Holmes
I'm doing a little project to get rid of all the black bars on the right side of the PDF of the NR - these indicate material that is too wide to be properly accommodated on the page. One of the things that causes this is text like: Fret diagrams for the ukulele are contained in the file @file