Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-08-21 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 1. August 2009 09:52:59 schrieb Trevor Daniels: > > CRESCENDO > > > > Reinhold and Frederick: as you may have guessed, I'm proposing > > that your patch waits until 3.0. Anything requiring such manual > > tweaks will make some people very

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 08:48:01PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le lundi 27 juillet 2009 à 03:22 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > One of the biggest complaints people have with lilypond -- other > > than that silly "there's no gui" -- is the changing syntax. Now, > > IMHO this project shoul

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-08-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 27 juillet 2009 à 03:22 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > One of the biggest complaints people have with lilypond -- other > than that silly "there's no gui" -- is the changing syntax. Now, > inventing a language or standards is difficult. If you set it in > stone too soon, you risk bei

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, July 27, 2009 11:22 AM Lilypond Syntax Development (tentative name) However, I think we now have a critical mass of interested users, experience with the syntax, and developers. I therefore propose to have a Grand Project devoted to stabilizing the lilypond inp

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-28 Thread Frédéric Bron
> Reinhold and Frederick: as you may have guessed, I'm proposing > that your patch waits until 3.0. Anything requiring such manual > tweaks will make some people very unhappy, such as mutopia. > > I think we should make *all* manual changes at once, but reassure > people that this will (probably)

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 03:31:45PM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2009/7/27 Graham Percival : > > Lilypond Syntax Development   (tentative name) > > How about "Grand Syntax Project", for Graham-ish consistency's sake? :-) LSD is much nicer than GSP, though. > > Reinhold and Frederick: as you

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 07:25:21AM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 7/27/09 4:22 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > Lilypond Syntax Development (tentative name) > > Are you on mind-altering drugs? ;) All the time, baby... sugar, caffene... I suppose even water qualifies. I mean, if I didn

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-27 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <87tz0y5pm0@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup writes If one has something like a flex/bison syntax and/or a parser library and/on definite rules for what can, can't be done, then one has a lot of flexibility. I think we already have an Antlr syntax, don't we? Although iirc it's no

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-27 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Montag, 27. Juli 2009 12:22:33 schrieb Graham Percival: > CRESCENDO > > Reinhold and Frederick: as you may have guessed, I'm proposing > that your patch waits until 3.0. How about splitting up the patch into backend (i.e. supporting the spanner- type and -text property of the crescendo event

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-27 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/27 Graham Percival : > Lilypond Syntax Development   (tentative name) How about "Grand Syntax Project", for Graham-ish consistency's sake? :-) > However, I think we now have a critical mass of interested users, > experience with the syntax, and developers.  I therefore propose > to have a

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-27 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/27/09 4:22 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > I was going to hold off introducing this until the 3-4 major > development issues had been sorted out, but the third time I found > myself writing "yes, I have a plan for this, but I'm going to wait > a bit before discussing it", I decided I was b

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 01:31:35PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > Graham Percival writes: > > > - We're going to have lots and lots of emails flying around. They > > don't really fit into either -devel or -user, so we'll use a > > mailist on lilynet.net. Maybe the already-created proposal

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-27 Thread David Kastrup
A few comments from a consumer... Graham Percival writes: > SUMMARY > > Start: Sep 2009. > > Length: 6-9 months. We're not going to rush this. > > Goal: define an input format which we commit to being > machine-updateable for the forseeable future. Any future patches > which change the syntax

Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
I was going to hold off introducing this until the 3-4 major development issues had been sorted out, but the third time I found myself writing "yes, I have a plan for this, but I'm going to wait a bit before discussing it", I decided I was behaving like a smarmy teenager. There's nothing time-crit