Re: ligature issue 2656 (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > The issues discussed in this thread have quite diversified: > > - Updating GUB to a newer Ghostscript > - Ligatures not being produced on all platforms > - Updating Pango which solved this > - Pango picking system fonts, resulting in unpredictable output > - thinking about cho

Re: ligature issue 2656 (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-26 Thread Urs Liska
Am 26.03.2015 um 16:12 schrieb David Kastrup: Masamichi HOSODA writes: I've succeed GUB's ``make lilypond'' by pango-1.28.3 in this branch. https://github.com/trueroad/gub/tree/pango-1.28 I've checked again. I've installed DejaVuSans to all environments. linux-64 binary on Ubuntu 14.04

Re: ligature issue 2656 (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Masamichi HOSODA writes: > I've succeed GUB's ``make lilypond'' by pango-1.28.3 in this branch. > https://github.com/trueroad/gub/tree/pango-1.28 > > I've checked again. > I've installed DejaVuSans to all environments. > > linux-64 binary on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit: > linux-x86 binary on Ubun

Re: ligature issue 2656 (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-26 Thread Urs Liska
Am 26.03.2015 um 15:55 schrieb Masamichi HOSODA: I've succeed GUB's ``make lilypond'' by pango-1.28.3 in this branch. https://github.com/trueroad/gub/tree/pango-1.28 I've checked again. I've installed DejaVuSans to all environments. linux-64 binary on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit: linux-x86

Re: ligature issue 2656 (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-26 Thread Masamichi HOSODA
I've succeed GUB's ``make lilypond'' by pango-1.28.3 in this branch. https://github.com/trueroad/gub/tree/pango-1.28 I've checked again. I've installed DejaVuSans to all environments. linux-64 binary on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit: linux-x86 binary on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit: linux-x86 binary o

Re: Sans-serif free Unicode font (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-26 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2015-03-26 um 00:11 schrieb Marc Hohl : > Is there any recommendation whether to use sans serif fonts for chord names? > I used the text font (serif) in the latest projects of mine where chord > symbols were needed. I don’t know, but I tried several fonts for chord names, and if you use a s

Re: Sans-serif free Unicode font (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.03.2015 um 18:58 schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 3/25/15 6:54 AM, "u...@openlilylib.org" wrote: I think the fonts we're looking for should have a similarly classic or old-fashioned look as Century. Maybe we should look for fonts that (optionally) ship with texlive. Hunting around for sans

Re: Sans-serif free Unicode font (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-25 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 03/25/2015 06:58 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 3/25/15 6:54 AM, "u...@openlilylib.org" wrote: I think the fonts we're looking for should have a similarly classic or old-fashioned look as Century. Maybe we should look for fonts that (optionally) ship with texlive. [...] I think that the foll

Re: Sans-serif free Unicode font (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-25 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 25.03.2015 um 18:58 schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 3/25/15 6:54 AM, "u...@openlilylib.org" wrote: I think the fonts we're looking for should have a similarly classic or old-fashioned look as Century. Maybe we should look for fonts that (optionally) ship with texlive. Hunting around for sans

Re: Sans-serif free Unicode font (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 3/25/15 6:54 AM, "u...@openlilylib.org" wrote: >I think the fonts we're looking for should have a similarly classic or >old-fashioned look as Century. > >Maybe we should look for fonts that (optionally) ship with texlive. Hunting around for sans-serif fonts that work well with CenturySchool

Re: Sans-serif free Unicode font (was Re: Ghostscript 9.15)

2015-03-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.03.2015 um 13:32 schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 3/25/15 3:06 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote: 2) Find suitable fonts and include them in the distribution I know this is a more difficult issue than 1) but I think it would be worth it. By default LilyPond scores don't use sans or monospace (IISC) but

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread Masamichi HOSODA
>> So that’s probably a matter of the font, not of its style - not every font >> defines ligatures, and the name „TakaoPGothic“ tells me its main focus would >> be Japanese (is this true?), so the designers probably didn’t put so much >> work in features of Latin script. >> >> Would you care to

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread David Kastrup
Masamichi HOSODA writes: >> So that’s probably a matter of the font, not of its style - not >> every font defines ligatures, and the name „TakaoPGothic“ tells me >> its main focus would be Japanese (is this true?), so the designers >> probably didn’t put so much work in features of Latin script.

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread Masamichi HOSODA
> So that’s probably a matter of the font, not of its style - not every font > defines ligatures, and the name „TakaoPGothic“ tells me its main focus would > be Japanese (is this true?), so the designers probably didn’t put so much > work in features of Latin script. > > Would you care to try a

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> Chord names are Sans Serif I think. >> >> A yes, that's right. And IIRC there is sort of an agreement that >> they are not the most appealing part of LilyPond's default >> appearance ... > > Very much so. And if that happened because Pango picks a default > system font, I would not really be

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 25.03.2015 um 10:36 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Urs Liska writes: >> >>> 2) Find suitable fonts and include them in the distribution >>> I know this is a more difficult issue than 1) but I think it would be >>> worth it. By default LilyPond scores don't use sans or monospace

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > 2) Find suitable fonts and include them in the distribution > I know this is a more difficult issue than 1) but I think it would be > worth it. By default LilyPond scores don't use sans or monospace > (IISC) Chord names are Sans Serif I think. > but I think LilyPond should a

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.03.2015 um 10:36 schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: 2) Find suitable fonts and include them in the distribution I know this is a more difficult issue than 1) but I think it would be worth it. By default LilyPond scores don't use sans or monospace (IISC) Chord names are Sans Seri

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.03.2015 um 09:35 schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Am 25.03.2015 um 09:01 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: We don't use any particular font for sans-serif and monospace. LilyPond simply calls the OS's default here. Which is something I'd like to raise (once more?): Would it be an optio

Fwd: Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread Urs Liska
Sorry, this had accidentally gone private ... Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff:Re: Ghostscript 9.15 Datum: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:31:49 +0100 Von:David Kastrup An: Urs Liska Urs Liska writes: Am 25.03.2015 um 08:51 schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 25.03.2015 um 09:01 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: We don't use any particular font for sans-serif and monospace. LilyPond simply calls the OS's default here. Which is something I'd like to raise (once more?): Would it be an option to find suitable complementi

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.03.2015 um 09:01 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: We don't use any particular font for sans-serif and monospace. LilyPond simply calls the OS's default here. Which is something I'd like to raise (once more?): Would it be an option to find suitable complementing fonts here, ship them with LilyPond

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> We don't use any particular font for sans-serif and >> monospace. LilyPond simply calls the OS's default here. Which is >> something I'd like to raise (once more?): Would it be an option to >> find suitable complementing fonts here, ship them with LilyPond and >> make them the default? > > As

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 25.03.2015 um 07:50 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> So that’s probably a matter of the font, not of its style - not every >>> >font defines ligatures, and the name „TakaoPGothic“ tells me its main >>> >focus would be Japanese (is this true?), so the designers probably >>> >didn’

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.03.2015 um 07:50 schrieb David Kastrup: So that’s probably a matter of the font, not of its style - not every >font defines ligatures, and the name „TakaoPGothic“ tells me its main >focus would be Japanese (is this true?), so the designers probably >didn’t put so much work in features of

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-24 Thread David Kastrup
Henning Hraban Ramm writes: > Am 2015-03-24 um 20:35 schrieb Masamichi HOSODA : > >> I've succeed to upgrade GUB's pango to 1.28.3. >> https://github.com/trueroad/gub/tree/pango-1.28 >> >> Then, I've checked some environments. >> The results are following: >> >> linux-64 binary on Ubuntu 14.04

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2015-03-24 um 20:35 schrieb Masamichi HOSODA : > I've succeed to upgrade GUB's pango to 1.28.3. > https://github.com/trueroad/gub/tree/pango-1.28 > > Then, I've checked some environments. > The results are following: > > linux-64 binary on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit: >ligatured pdf is gener

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-24 Thread Masamichi HOSODA
>> I still suspect a Pango bug that has probably been fixed in the not >> too distant past. What version are you using? Can you upgrade to the >> most recent one? On my 32bit GNU/Linux I use a quite recent git >> version of Pango, which should behave identically to the last release >> (1.36.8),

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-24 Thread Masamichi HOSODA
>> linux-64: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit >> ligatured pdf is generated. >> >> linux-x86: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 32 bit (minimal install, no GUI, console only) >> non-ligatured pdf is generated. > > Ah, this is surprising, since up to now exactly the opposite behaviour > was reported (this is, w

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:44 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Masamichi HOSODA writes: > >> I've succeed to upgrade GUB's ghostscript to 9.15 in this branch. >> https://github.com/trueroad/gub/tree/ghostscript-9.15 >> >> I've succeed GUB's ``ma

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> linux-64: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit > ligatured pdf is generated. > > linux-x86: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 32 bit (minimal install, no GUI, console only) > non-ligatured pdf is generated. Ah, this is surprising, since up to now exactly the opposite behaviour was reported (this is, working on

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-23 Thread Masamichi HOSODA
>>> Have you checked ligatures? I think we were able to correlate our >>> ligature problems (don't know the issue right now) to the use of 64bit >>> architecture. It may be related to GhostScript. >> >> I haven't. >> Is it here? >> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2656 >> >> I'l

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-23 Thread David Kastrup
Masamichi HOSODA writes: >> Have you checked ligatures? I think we were able to correlate our >> ligature problems (don't know the issue right now) to the use of 64bit >> architecture. It may be related to GhostScript. > > I haven't. > Is it here? > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/deta

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-23 Thread Masamichi HOSODA
> Have you checked ligatures? I think we were able to correlate our > ligature problems (don't know the issue right now) to the use of 64bit > architecture. It may be related to GhostScript. I haven't. Is it here? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2656 I'll check it. _

Re: Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-22 Thread David Kastrup
Masamichi HOSODA writes: > I've succeed to upgrade GUB's ghostscript to 9.15 in this branch. > https://github.com/trueroad/gub/tree/ghostscript-9.15 > > I've succeed GUB's ``make lilypond'' by ghostscript-9.15. > All lilypond installers have been bui

Ghostscript 9.15

2015-03-22 Thread Masamichi HOSODA
I've succeed to upgrade GUB's ghostscript to 9.15 in this branch. https://github.com/trueroad/gub/tree/ghostscript-9.15 I've succeed GUB's ``make lilypond'' by ghostscript-9.15. All lilypond installers have been build. In mingw (Windows): Ghostscript can handle