Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 09:38:30PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > It's already in make help - that's why it was a 4 line patch. My apologies; my old eyes noticed the "bin-clean" target, but skipped over the "bin" in the bottom list. Cheers ,- Graham ___ l

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes wrote Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:38 PM It's already in make help - that's why it was a 4 line patch. James (or another docs guru) - any chance of adding this to the CG (probably in 4.5.1 Using make) The command "make bin" will check to see whether any changes have been made in the

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: ; "Ian Hulin" Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:25 PM Subject: Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision) On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 05:37:28PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: Patch

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 05:37:28PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > Patch attached. Not convinced it's worth a Rietveld for essentially > one line? Works on my system. Thanks, pushed as soon as I'm at a real internet connection[1]. Could you add it to make help and the CG? [1] BC Ferries gives fre

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: ; "Ian Hulin" Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision) On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 03:32:20PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: ---

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 03:32:20PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Ian Hulin" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 12:33 PM > Subject: Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision) > > >1+ for Graham's proposal, provi

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Ian Hulin" To: Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 12:33 PM Subject: Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision) Hi Trevor, On 23/07/11 15:07, Trevor Daniels wrote: Jan Warchoł wrote Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:39 PM 2011/7/21 Trev

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Trevor, On 23/07/11 15:07, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Jan Warchoł wrote Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:39 PM > > >> 2011/7/21 Trevor Daniels : >>> >>> If the compile and link succeed, you usually ctrl-C out of make >>> as soon as linking has finished so you can get on with testing. >>> So you nee

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Phil Holmes" To: "Graham Percival" ; "Trevor Daniels" Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:03 AM Subject: Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision) - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival&qu

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Trevor Daniels" ; "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:34 PM Subject: Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision) On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 03:07:22PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wro

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-23 Thread Jan Warchoł
2011/7/23 Trevor Daniels : > > Jan Warchoł wrote Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:39 PM > >> 2011/7/21 Trevor Daniels : >>> >>> If the compile and link succeed, you usually ctrl-C out of make >>> as soon as linking has finished so you can get on with testing. >>> So you need to see the relevant messages o

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 03:07:22PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > If you have changed only one or two C++ routines > the compile and link part of make take only a few seconds. > There's no point in letting it go on to check all the doc files. ok, let's publicize the "build on bin/lilypond" targ

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jan Warchoł wrote Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:39 PM 2011/7/21 Trevor Daniels : If the compile and link succeed, you usually ctrl-C out of make as soon as linking has finished so you can get on with testing. So you need to see the relevant messages on the console to determine this. I'm not su

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-23 Thread Jan Warchoł
2011/7/21 Trevor Daniels : > In my case it's because I have difficulty in understanding precisely what > the effect of this change will be on any work I do. > > But I have one comment.  By far the commonest use of make > by developers is to compile the most recent change to C++ > source during the

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-23 Thread Jan Warchoł
2011/7/21 Graham Percival : > Not much response from the previous GOP-PROP 5 (update); I'm not > certain if "silence is a form of consent" [1] in this context. In my case it is, i guess :) cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gn

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:49:01AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Graham Percival wrote Thursday, July 21, 2011 6:37 AM > > >Not much response from the previous GOP-PROP 5 (update); I'm not > >certain if "silence is a form of consent" [1] in this context. > > In my case it's because I have dif

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:07:29AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > I proposed to adopt the linux/git/automake convention of using silent > rules so that you get something like > > make > CC lily/foo.c > .. > LB Documentation/web.texi > LB Documentation/notation.texi > > or what you cu

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-21 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Trevor Daniels writes: >> Not much response from the previous GOP-PROP 5 (update); I'm not >> certain if "silence is a form of consent" [1] in this context. > > In my case it's because I have difficulty in understanding precisely > what the effect of this change will be on any work I do. +1 I pr

Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, July 21, 2011 6:37 AM Not much response from the previous GOP-PROP 5 (update); I'm not certain if "silence is a form of consent" [1] in this context. In my case it's because I have difficulty in understanding precisely what the effect of this change will be o

GOP-PROP 5: build system output (probable decision)

2011-07-20 Thread Graham Percival
Not much response from the previous GOP-PROP 5 (update); I'm not certain if "silence is a form of consent" [1] in this context. [1] true story from a friend's lifeguard training. If somebody if choking but declines any help, the lifeguard (in Canada, at least) is legally obliged to watch the pers