2007/9/2, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You probably missed the nuance of this email:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2007-08/msg00178.html
Oh yes. It may be too diplomatic for me though :)
Thank you for rephrasing.
> > (As I already said, both verbatim and
> > non-
Valentin Villenave wrote:
Hmmm... Does it means that Trevor's Debussy examples are not to be
added? I must have missed something in the discussion; I thought
wherever we could find "nice" and simple examples, the current manual
examples could be replaced with those.
You probably missed the nu
2007/9/2, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Trevor Bača wrote:
> > I think what Graham's wanting to try out to get started is a beautiful
> > example per major *section* of the manual rather than per minor
> > *subsection*.
> >
> Yes, absolutely.
Hmmm... Does it means that Trevor's Debussy ex
Trevor Bača wrote:
I think what Graham's wanting to try out to get started is a beautiful
example per major *section* of the manual rather than per minor
*subsection*.
Yes, absolutely.
So with that in mind I've started thinking more about "what one
snippet would best show off contemporary no
On 9/2/07, Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2007/8/31, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > In fact, glancing at the manual sections now, it looks like chapter 8
> > is as good a place to start as any. I'll take a stab at 8.1.1 through
> > 8.1.11 tomorrow, probably skipping over 8.1.
2007/8/31, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> In fact, glancing at the manual sections now, it looks like chapter 8
> is as good a place to start as any. I'll take a stab at 8.1.1 through
> 8.1.11 tomorrow, probably skipping over 8.1.7 ...
Hi Trevor, hi everybody,
I've just seen the examples in 8
On 8/30/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Trevor Bača wrote:
> > Sure, I'd be happy to. (And if winds up being too complicated, then
> > that's certainly OK; just keep me in check!)
> >
> Go nuts. :) My only concern is the vertical space of the printed
> music on the page. For th
Trevor Bača wrote:
Sure, I'd be happy to. (And if winds up being too complicated, then
that's certainly OK; just keep me in check!)
Go nuts. :) My only concern is the vertical space of the printed
music on the page. For the lilypond input, do whatever you want.
Overrides, scheme, Turing
On 8/30/07, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/30/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> > > Graham Percival escreveu:
> > >
> > >
> > >> ... hmm, I might see a use for that. We could have one really fancy
> > >> example, *without* input code, in th
On 8/30/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> > Graham Percival escreveu:
> >
> >
> >> ... hmm, I might see a use for that. We could have one really fancy
> >> example, *without* input code, in the "root" node of each section.
> >>
> >
> > I concur with this. S
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Graham Percival escreveu:
... hmm, I might see a use for that. We could have one really fancy
example, *without* input code, in the "root" node of each section.
I concur with this. Some 'real' examples also help give users an idea what
some features (eg. fatTe
Graham Percival escreveu:
> ... hmm, I might see a use for that. We could have one really fancy
> example, *without* input code, in the "root" node of each section.
I concur with this. Some 'real' examples also help give users an idea what
some features (eg. fatText) could be used for.
--
Han-
On 8/30/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Trevor Bača wrote:
> > The second example was infinitely easier: we just needed something to
> > show a text script complicated enough to require a markup (which is
> > almost everything). The indication, is, of course, Debussy's famous
> > m
Trevor Bača wrote:
The second example was infinitely easier: we just needed something to
show a text script complicated enough to require a markup (which is
almost everything). The indication, is, of course, Debussy's famous
marking at the beginning of Des pas sur la neige.
Let's ignore the \f
Valentin Villenave wrote:
2007/8/31, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
There's a few other places in the manual where they're used. Yes, they
could of course be used in more places. I'm sure that both of you know
why they aren't yet. :)
Let me guess... Everyone tried to help but
2007/8/31, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Great! I noticed the glissando link indeed, but never had the
curiosity to look at the source file.
> There's a few other places in the manual where they're used. Yes, they
> could of course be used in more places. I'm sure that both of you know
>
Valentin Villenave wrote:
Leaving the feature page aside, what I often tried to figure out was:
how to better integrate the LSR with the manual. I can't put links to
the manual in the snippets descriptions (since the links are likely to
be broken soon); neither can I put links to the LSR snippets
2007/8/30, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [I'm a little hesitant to speak on this issue because I think my
> opinions differ a bit from the rest of the team. So fair warning,
> subjective opinion coming up. I personally *love* and adore the
> manual. I use it every day. I read it more often t
On 8/30/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2007/8/30, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > The first example -- the one for \fatText -- was quite difficult to
> > come up with. I looked at the existing \fatText last night and thought
> > "what possible musical context is there for
2007/8/30, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The first example -- the one for \fatText -- was quite difficult to
> come up with. I looked at the existing \fatText last night and thought
> "what possible musical context is there for making text open up a gap
> in the middle of a score; where on ea
2007/8/30, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I tried to make the point visually this morning by mocking up 8.1.1
> "Text scripts" in LaTeX. I don't think I got all the settings right to
> match the docs, but at least here I can kinda give a little bit by
> contributing an example (instead of just
Han-Wen said pretty much everything I was planning on saying, but I'll
add/summarize some points:
1. Long musical examples in the manual are out. (cut+paste difficulty,
looks complicated, adds unnecessary length to sections -- my ideal
length is no more than two pages of HTML for each subsec
It's been a long day, and don't have a coherent response to such a
long mail with such good points, but I'll just put in a little
counterpoint.
1. we actually used to have longer examples and "schubert lied in 10
steps" type of examples, in the tutorial. They were removed as they
were too intimid
2007/8/29, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
Hi Trevor,
quite a long mail (very interesting though).
You're right, musical examples are extremely important. Besides, I
noticed we're using less musical examples than several years ago (I
remember, in 1.x manuals, a Brahms example, and the Samm
Hi,
It looks like we're getting close to a 2.12 release, which is awesome.
It's been quite amazing to watch the increase of new features and, in
some cases, entire new subsystems enter the program over the last
couple of major releases.
First a background observation and then a specific suggestio
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