2007/8/29, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, Hi Trevor,
quite a long mail (very interesting though). You're right, musical examples are extremely important. Besides, I noticed we're using less musical examples than several years ago (I remember, in 1.x manuals, a Brahms example, and the Sammartini thing among others, all gone now). So, while I get your point, I don't know if the whole manual can (or has to) be affected by your suggestion. -A few days ago, I asked here about the "feature page" which was planned years ago and hasn't been realized yet; I guess this would be the perfect location for high-quality cultural score samples. -Finding *genuine* relevant examples isn't just difficult: it is nearly impossible. Just have a look at this page (2.10 doc): http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Automatic-accidentals#Automatic-accidentals and then the same page, for which I recently wrote a specific example: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Automatic-accidentals#Automatic-accidentals ...you'll see that I had a pretty hard time ;) -However, real scores would be very great in the manual. For instance, the tutorial is great, but maybe something similar could be done in a "writing a Schubert Lied in 10 steps"-way. Users who read the manual could be "granted", for example at the end of each chapter, with a score sample demonstrating some of the features they've just learned. The page http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Bagpipe-example#Bagpipe-example is a perfect example ; I wish there were more pages like this one in the manual. -the http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/examples page could help us, for instance, but also the Mutopia project (there should be more links to them, to start with the Examples page, shouldn't it?). -Finally, to illustrate what you said, I just wanted to mention what made me learn and use LilyPond: just one single image: the famous "screech and boink" http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/lily-f7fa3db6b9 My first LilyPond version was 1.7, and back then I had never seen any program (I used Finale, Encore, and later, Sibelius) which could handle complex rhythms and polyphony in such a spectacular way: I jjust *had* to give it a try! I guess after all, we're just like kids: it's all about nice images :) Regards, Valentin
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