Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 02:16:45PM +0100, Ian Hulin wrote: > 3.2.1 Titles Headings and Front-Matter > > 3.2.2 Custom Titles and Section Headings > > 3.2.3 Headers and Footers I'm not wild about splitting this up, but I'll consider it. > Current definition of \header (in NR 3.1.3 File Structure)

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hulin
Ian Hulin wrote: Kieren MacMillan wrote: Then I suggest Titles, Headings, Headers, Footers or something similar to avoid the nasty `/'. Headings (Titles) and Margin Text (Headers and Footers) 3.2. Titles Headings and Front-Matter 3.2.1 Titles Headings and Front-Matter score "book", Score

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Hulin
Kieren MacMillan wrote: Then I suggest Titles, Headings, Headers, Footers or something similar to avoid the nasty `/'. Headings (Titles) and Margin Text (Headers and Footers) 3.2. Titles Headings and Front-Matter 3.2.1 Titles Headings and Front-Matter score "book", Score Titles, subtitles

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:35:33AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> I'm beginning to suspect that we should just explain this better in >> the tutorial > > Didn't you just recently say that this should NOT be in LM? Sorry, I mis-spoke. We should explain that details of \header stuff is in the

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
I'm beginning to suspect that we should just explain this better in the tutorial Didn't you just recently say that this should NOT be in LM? ... after all, the command is \header. That is, one must admit, a confusing command... none of the items are actually put in a "header" (as most peo

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Headings (Titles) and Margin Text (Headers and Footers) If I read `margin' I only think of left and right margins. So Lilypond's "top-margin" and "bottom-margin" properties make no sense? ;) It's clear in the typographic world (including HTML/CSS, etc.) that the margin extends around the e

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Then I suggest >> Titles, Headings, Headers, Footers >> or something similar to avoid the nasty `/'. > > Headings (Titles) and Margin Text (Headers and Footers) If I read `margin' I only think of left and right margins. Werner ___ lilypond

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 04:58:12PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Since "Heading" and "Header" are extremely similar, explicitly > > including the word "title" decreases the likelihood of > > miscommunication and misunderstanding, which is what we're trying to > > solve here. > > > > Kieren.

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Then I suggest Titles, Headings, Headers, Footers or something similar to avoid the nasty `/'. Headings (Titles) and Margin Text (Headers and Footers) ?? Kieren. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/l

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Since "Heading" and "Header" are extremely similar, explicitly > including the word "title" decreases the likelihood of > miscommunication and misunderstanding, which is what we're trying to > solve here. > > Kieren. Then I suggest Titles, Headings, Headers, Footers or something similar to

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Titles, Headings, and Headers/Footers I don't see an immediate difference between titles and headings. The latter includes the former AFAIK. Since "Heading" and "Header" are extremely similar, explicitly including the word "title" decreases the likelihood of miscommunication and misund

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Or even > > Titles, Headings, and Headers/Footers I don't see an immediate difference between titles and headings. The latter includes the former AFAIK. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/ma

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Any suggestions for the name? Perhaps Headings, headers, and footers Or even Titles, Headings, and Headers/Footers ? Kieren. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-dev

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I'm a lot more willing to rename this section. I've seen > somewhere between 3-10 people confused by this in the past 5 > years. "Titular material"? "Headers and footers"? Any > suggestions for the name? Perhaps Headings, headers, and footers Werner __

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 08:06:30AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Chip, > >> As a nooby if I'm looking for info on adding a date to the footer I >> start by >> searching for Footer in the index of the LM, but it's not there. > > That should be the first thing to get fixed! =) > Graham/Carl:

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 07:02:23AM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > Chip wrote: >> But first I want to suggest this: move the section '3.2 >> Titles and >> headers' found in the NOTATION Reference to the LM. Why? Because the NR >> should >> be about Notation, and headers/footers/titles are not nota

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Chip, first I want to suggest this: move the section '3.2 Titles and headers' found in the NOTATION Reference to the LM. Why? Because the NR should be about Notation, and headers/footers/titles are not notation. Interesting... I'm curious to see what others' opinions are. Although it does

Re: Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Chip wrote: There has been recent discussion on -user regarding getting the date in the footer. One of the problems in finding the solution has been the docs themselves. I have a suggestion that may, in the long run, help straighten a few things out. But first I want to suggest this: move the se

Date in the footer and Headers/Footers/Titles

2009-04-26 Thread Chip
There has been recent discussion on -user regarding getting the date in the footer. One of the problems in finding the solution has been the docs themselves. I have a suggestion that may, in the long run, help straighten a few things out. But first I want to suggest this: move the section '3.2 T