Re: replacement git-cl

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 06:38:02AM +, Keith OHara wrote: > Graham Percival percival-music.ca> writes: > > > Please use > > https://github.com/gperciva/git-cl > > Confirming that it worked for me. > It was necessary to install stuff from > http://code.google.com/p/gdata-python-client/ Whoo

Re: replacement git-cl

2011-09-25 Thread Keith OHara
Graham Percival percival-music.ca> writes: > > Please use > https://github.com/gperciva/git-cl Confirming that it worked for me. It was necessary to install stuff from http://code.google.com/p/gdata-python-client/ > instead of the current git-cl. To configure, add a file called > google.l

Re: Big web page

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:32:59PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > So - going on comments concerning GOP, we have had one support, one > comment to the effect that someone once objected, and no-one > objecting. Please could we consider this as a serious proposal, and > if anyone thinks we need to keep

Re: Doc: add a note about \relative f to notation (issue 1909) (issue 5096046)

2011-09-25 Thread percival . music . ca
LGTM. If you wanted to add a @lilypond to make it more visible, I'm happy with that, otherwise just go ahead and push. http://codereview.appspot.com/5096046/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo

replacement git-cl

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
Please use https://github.com/gperciva/git-cl instead of the current git-cl. To configure, add a file called google.login to your lilypond srcdir, in the format username password This updated git-cl will: - create an issue with Patch-new to code.google.com, including a link to your rietveld

anybody know about json + urllib2 ?

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
Does anybody have a passing familiarity with json? I'm having trouble getting started with rietveld json api. I'm going to work on the code.google.com python interaction for the rest of today, but it would be great if somebody could get the json thing started. Task: get a basic "hello world" wit

Re: GOP-PROP 13: patch management tools (probable withdraw)

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:53:13PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > > I can't > > see why locating and implementing a code management system which handles the > > process as well as centralising the discussion, is a Bad Thing. > > I don't suppose that he meant it's a bad thing. I think Graham's > co

Re: Implement optional music function arguments (issue 5023044)

2011-09-25 Thread ianhulin44
http://codereview.appspot.com/5023044/diff/22001/scm/ly-syntax-constructors.scm File scm/ly-syntax-constructors.scm (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/5023044/diff/22001/scm/ly-syntax-constructors.scm#newcode52 scm/ly-syntax-constructors.scm:52: (format #f (_ "~a function can't return ~a") (

Re: Doc: add a note about \relative f to notation (issue 1909) (issue 5096046)

2011-09-25 Thread dak
LGTM http://codereview.appspot.com/5096046/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: MIDI output: min/max MIDI volume levels, dynamics of polyphonic passages within a single Voice

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
(moved from -user http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-09/msg00134.html) Hi Heikki, thank you for your e-mail! Sorry for not responding earlier. It's really a shame that your e-mail was left unreplied for so long. I see now that you've created an outstanding report on the matter

Re: GOP-PROP 13: patch management tools (probable withdraw)

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/25 Colin Campbell : > FWIW, Janek's bit above is just what I've been saying, and I believe it is > also what James has been suggesting.  The meta-problem seemas to be that > there are developers who see the world as patches submitte4d and discussed > by email, and there are Frogs, newer deve

Re: GOP-PROP 13: patch management tools (probable withdraw)

2011-09-25 Thread Colin Campbell
On 11-09-25 03:57 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2011/9/24 Graham Percival: I don't see this "proposal" (really more of "a set of musings") going anywhere. There's been a bunch of ideas: - tool X, tool Y - make better use of our current tools - do a survey of what other projects do but nothing

Re: in what unit is shift_amount measured? (preparing fix for 1546)

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
Looks like i've asked too many questions... I'll try to prepare some draft and put it up to Rietveld. cheers, Janek 2011/9/13 Janek Warchoł : > 2011/9/13 Han-Wen Nienhuys : >> 2011/9/12 Janek Warchoł : >>> i'm pretty confused about how note columns shift is measured (line 277 >>> and following in

Re: mentors/mentees check-in

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
I'm late, sorry... 2011/8/26 Graham Percival : > It's been a few weeks since we had the last mentors > "organization". > > I must admit that I haven't been a particularly good mentor. Well, i wasn't a very good one either. I hope that things will improve now that i've settled with janek.lilypond

Re: modifying default behaviour of tremolo slashes (issue 4636081)

2011-09-25 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > 2011/9/25 m...@apollinemike.com : >> Hey Janek! >> >> Sorry for the delay - I didn't realize you were waiting for me. >> >> I'll get on it tomorrow morning if not tonight. > > I'll try to idle on #lilyp...@irc.freenode.net today 18-20 GMT. >

Re: musicxml2ly: title and subtitle (issue 1913), miscellaneous (issue 5096050)

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/25 : > Hi Janek, > > I was talking about uploading some changes of this patch to rietveld. I > forgot to add some bits and pieces I had announced in the description of > this patch to the reworked version. I would have had to adjust only 2 of > the 3 files in the patch. That's why I asked w

Re: Adds StemTremolo to the note column's element list. (issue 5067041)

2011-09-25 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Sep 25, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Neil Puttock wrote: > On 19 September 2011 19:48, m...@apollinemike.com > wrote: > >> What I'd really like to know is why the spring ideal and minimum distances >> are different just by virtue of its belonging to the array, but I have a >> feeling the answer lies

Re: Doc: add a note about \relative f to notation (issue 1909) (issue 5096046)

2011-09-25 Thread janek . lilypond
I've made this briefer according to your suggestions. beers, Janek http://codereview.appspot.com/5096046/diff/1/Documentation/notation/pitches.itely File Documentation/notation/pitches.itely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/5096046/diff/1/Documentation/notation/pitches.itely#newcode258 D

Re: Moving away from make

2011-09-25 Thread Karl Hammar
David Kastrup: ... > The main problem I see is that dependencies don't work out, and that > presumably is mostly because the temporary/work files of lilypond-book > are not in the rules and get stomped over by parallel make. ... I have given up on lilypond-book and make. Instead I've made two scri

Re: Moving away from make

2011-09-25 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > Yes, various expert FLOSS members (such as Reinhold, Carl, and > IIRC yourself) have stepped forward to fix a few things in the > builds -- but the only people who are "working" on the build > system "full time" are windows users. > (that s

Doc: NR 1.2.6 added slashedGrace function (issue 5133043)

2011-09-25 Thread n . puttock
http://codereview.appspot.com/5133043/diff/1/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/5133043/diff/1/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode65 Documentation/changes.tely:65: There is a new @code{\slashedGrace} function: This is already document

Re: Adds StemTremolo to the note column's element list. (issue 5067041)

2011-09-25 Thread Neil Puttock
On 19 September 2011 19:48, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > What I'd really like to know is why the spring ideal and minimum distances > are different just by virtue of its belonging to the array, but I have a > feeling the answer lies deep in the bowels of the horizontal spacing code and > I d

Re: \slashedGrace vs \acciaccatura

2011-09-25 Thread Neil Puttock
On 25 September 2011 15:19, Phil Holmes wrote: > a) I believe the slashedGrace function is > to allow a slurred grace note inside a slur Nope. Reinhold recently added support for separate slurs on graces, so they work fine nested inside other slurs. b) I'm not convinced a tied grace note makes

Re: \slashedGrace vs \acciaccatura

2011-09-25 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Peekay Ex" To: "Devel" Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:01 PM Subject: \slashedGrace vs \acciaccatura Hello, I am just wanting a clarification of the difference between the \slashedGrace and \acciaccatura functions. Is it just that \acciaccatura is al

PATCH: Doc: NR 1.2.6 added slashedGrace function

2011-09-25 Thread Peekay Ex
New \slashedGrace function added to NR and Changes. This is for Tracker issue 177 http://codereview.appspot.com/5133043/ -- -- James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

difference between slur & tie when using \slashedGrace and not

2011-09-25 Thread Peekay Ex
Hello, Consider an unrealistic example @lilypond[fragment,quote,relative=2] \slashedGrace c16~ c2 \slashedGrace c16( c2) c16~ c2 c16( c2) @end lilypond When using \slashedGrace the tie is up but the slur is down; without \slashedGrace both tie and slur are down. Is this expected? -- -

Re: Text hyphenation

2011-09-25 Thread Bertrand Bordage
2011/9/25 Werner LEMBERG > Actually, we don't *need* `\-' at all since Unicode already provides > characters to control hyphenation: > > 00ADSOFT HYPHEN > 2010HYPHEN > 2011NON-BREAKING HYPHEN > > Bertrand, does your code work support them? Here is how it works for the moment: Th

\slashedGrace vs \acciaccatura

2011-09-25 Thread Peekay Ex
Hello, I am just wanting a clarification of the difference between the \slashedGrace and \acciaccatura functions. Is it just that \acciaccatura is always written with a slur and a grace note (\slashedGrace) may or may not be? I wanted to know the difference (musically and perhaps technically) t

Re: Text hyphenation

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/25 Werner LEMBERG : > >> Think about new users, they would be confused by this.  We should >> never make things more complicated than they must be, Lily is >> already too messy. > > Actually, we don't *need* `\-' at all since Unicode already provides > characters to control hyphenation: > >

Re: NR Context Layout Order rewrite (5.1.7) - tracker 1812 (issue 4839061)

2011-09-25 Thread pkx166h
New Patch set loaded with Trevor's suggestions. James http://codereview.appspot.com/4839061/diff/3001/Documentation/notation/changing-defaults.itely File Documentation/notation/changing-defaults.itely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/4839061/diff/3001/Documentation/notation/changing-defa

Re: Text hyphenation

2011-09-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I don't like it, since it is extremely unnatural to me if applied >> to longer texts.  Instead, I would prefer a simple Scheme function >> which converts `foo -- bar' into `foo\-bar' if desired. > > I'd prefer changing lyric hyphen command from -- to \- instead of > creating such dichotomy. Hmm

Re: Uses Stem::beam_end_corrective to get tremolo heights right (issue 5133042)

2011-09-25 Thread pkx166h
On 2011/09/25 10:29:47, MikeSol wrote: Hey all, This fixes issue 1929 and gets StemTremolo placement correct for beams. I still need to run regtests on it. No you don't, because I just have. Passes make and there are minor reg test changes see http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/de

Re: Documentation - long lines

2011-09-25 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > When writing some docs (e.g. the CG concerning make) it's inevitable > that the line will be too long to fit on a single line in the doc. > This can be helped a bit by setting the font smaller, but in the end > we'd have to break the line. My question: is there a standard

Re: Documentation - long lines

2011-09-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> When writing some docs (e.g. the CG concerning make) it's inevitable > that the line will be too long to fit on a single line in the doc. > This can be helped a bit by setting the font smaller, but in the end > we'd have to break the line. My question: is there a standard way of > showing this?

Re: Doc: Added note to CG about disable-optimizing (issue 5081048)

2011-09-25 Thread pkx166h
Pushed as commit0290695173284ccf68b08c0e92734d76df7120fd Graham ok'd this. James http://codereview.appspot.com/5081048/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Big web page

2011-09-25 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Devel" Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Big web page 2011/9/23 Phil Holmes : You know, I'm wondering if this serves any purpose. It's a humungous thing that takes an age to load and display, and

Documentation - long lines

2011-09-25 Thread Phil Holmes
When writing some docs (e.g. the CG concerning make) it's inevitable that the line will be too long to fit on a single line in the doc. This can be helped a bit by setting the font smaller, but in the end we'd have to break the line. My question: is there a standard way of showing this? If no

Re: musicxml2ly: title and subtitle (issue 1913), miscellaneous (issue 5096050)

2011-09-25 Thread ptrcklschmdt
On 2011/09/25 10:31:14, janek wrote: Hi Patrick, 2011/9/24 : > I just discovered that I forgot to add the changes related to > conversion-info and \center-column. Do I have to make a completely new > patch containing all 3 files (musicxml2ly.py, musicxml.py and > musicexp.py) or is it ok to

Re: What is -dold-relative and why do we need it?

2011-09-25 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 05:18:16PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> and it is queried in quite a few places. Lilypond 1.8 seems like a >> rather old version to support. >> >> Do we really need to have this around? Anybody even knows what it does? > > IIRC, old-relat

Re: Text hyphenation

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/25 Werner LEMBERG : > >>> I worked on this yesterday. I chose '--' instead of '\-'. The >>> result is great (see attached). > > Mhmm.  Normally, in plain text, even in non-TeX related contexts, `--' > means an en-dash or em-dash.  I *much* prefer `\-'. > >> Maybe it could work like -- in lyr

Re: Text hyphenation

2011-09-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I worked on this yesterday. I chose '--' instead of '\-'. The >> result is great (see attached). Mhmm. Normally, in plain text, even in non-TeX related contexts, `--' means an en-dash or em-dash. I *much* prefer `\-'. > Maybe it could work like -- in lyrics? I mean, it would be nice to > b

Re: Moving away from make

2011-09-25 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:50:52AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> > Yes, various expert FLOSS members (such as Reinhold, Carl, and >> > IIRC yourself) have stepped forward to fix a few things in the >> > builds -- but the only people who a

Re: musicxml2ly: title and subtitle (issue 1913), miscellaneous (issue 5096050)

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Patrick, 2011/9/24 : > I just discovered that I forgot to add the changes related to > conversion-info and \center-column. Do I have to make a completely new > patch containing all 3 files (musicxml2ly.py, musicxml.py and > musicexp.py) or is it ok to upload only the files with these changes >

Uses Stem::beam_end_corrective to get tremolo heights right (issue 5133042)

2011-09-25 Thread mtsolo
Reviewers: , Message: Hey all, This fixes issue 1929 and gets StemTremolo placement correct for beams. I still need to run regtests on it. Cheers, MS Description: Uses Stem::beam_end_corrective to get tremolo heights right Please review this at http://codereview.appspot.com/5133042/ Affected

Re: Doc: Added note to CG about disable-optimizing (issue 5081048)

2011-09-25 Thread percival . music . ca
LGTM, go ahead and push http://codereview.appspot.com/5081048/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: What is -dold-relative and why do we need it?

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 05:18:16PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > and it is queried in quite a few places. Lilypond 1.8 seems like a > rather old version to support. > > Do we really need to have this around? Anybody even knows what it does? IIRC, old-relative had to do with the behavior of r

Re: Text hyphenation

2011-09-25 Thread Bertrand Bordage
This would require some work on the parser/lexer, but I think it is possible to do. The example you wrote seems a bit messy to me. It is better to keep the lyricmode: someText = lyricmode { some4 de8 -- mon16 -- stra -- tion4 text, hoo -- ray! } \markup \someText \new Lyrics \someText I don't kno

Re: Moving away from make

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:50:52AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > Yes, various expert FLOSS members (such as Reinhold, Carl, and > > IIRC yourself) have stepped forward to fix a few things in the > > builds -- but the only people who are "working" on the build > > sys

Re: GOP-PROP 13: patch management tools (probable withdraw)

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 08:18:27AM +0100, Peekay Ex wrote: > 1 Devs who put up a Rietveld put up a tracker too and use the *exact* > same title (even if it is very cryptic) the description can be simply > the link to the Rietveld URL. Dead horse. If I had spent *one quarter* as much time writing

Re: Text hyphenation

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/24 Bertrand Bordage : > 2011/9/23 Janek Warchoł >> >> Hi Bertrand, >> >> 2011/9/23 Bertrand Bordage : >> > * making a system that allows to specify where a word is breakable (like >> > \- >> > in LaTeX); >> >> I vote for this because it seems most multi-language friendly.  I.e., >> implemen

Re: Big web page

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:20:10PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > I thought I'd start with a rather easier to follow description of > how make website works. It's attached as a text file with no > formatting as yet, for quick thoughts. If wanted I could put it on > Rietveld as is, or if it's close e

Re: Big web page

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/23 Phil Holmes : > You know, I'm wondering if this serves any purpose.  It's a humungous thing > that takes an age to load and display, and for a long time has had a load of > missing images, bad links, etc.  No-one complained much and no-one really > seemed to notice.  Yet we lose the image

Re: GOP-PROP 13: patch management tools (probable withdraw)

2011-09-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/24 Graham Percival : > I don't see this "proposal" (really more of "a set of musings") > going anywhere. There's been a bunch of ideas: > - tool X, tool Y > - make better use of our current tools > - do a survey of what other projects do > but nothing has made a significant amount of peo

Re: musicxml2ly: title and subtitle (issue 1913), miscellaneous (issue 5096050)

2011-09-25 Thread pkx166h
This also passes a completely fresh make ; make doc. http://codereview.appspot.com/5096050/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Add support for custom ledger positions, using two new staff-symbol properties (issue 4974075)

2011-09-25 Thread janek . lilypond
Hi, i see that i'm the owner of the tracker issue 1193 (and i suppose that Piers doesn't have git push ability), so i guess that it's for me to push. However, i don't understand some things: - what exactly shall i push? - is this Rietveld issue up-to-date? I see that it was last modified week ag

Re: Does lilypond 2.15.x support guile 2.0 yet?

2011-09-25 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer writes: > On Sa., 24. Sep. 2011 22:22:39 CEST, Graham Percival > wrote: > >> There is absolutely zero chance of lilypond 2.16 using guile 2.0. >> There is maybe a 10% chance that any version of lilypond will >> support guile 2.0 in 2011.  Total guesswork for future >> predict

Re: Does lilypond 2.15.x support guile 2.0 yet?

2011-09-25 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
On Sa., 24. Sep. 2011 22:22:39 CEST, Graham Percival wrote: > There is absolutely zero chance of lilypond 2.16 using guile 2.0. > There is maybe a 10% chance that any version of lilypond will > support guile 2.0 in 2011.  Total guesswork for future > predictions: 50% chance of supporting guile

Re: Moving away from make

2011-09-25 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 08:33:45AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> I don't do Python or many newfangled languages. I have worked with Make >> for over 20 years. The casual contributor will be one used to the >> technology and thinking underlying Lilypond. More likely t

Re: Moving away from make

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 08:33:45AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > I don't do Python or many newfangled languages. I have worked with Make > for over 20 years. The casual contributor will be one used to the > technology and thinking underlying Lilypond. More likely than not > someone with more tha