Re: [frogs] Regression in docs: Output-suffix does not work as documented in AU 3.2.1

2009-08-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:12:59AM +0100, Ian Hulin wrote: > This is AU section 3.2.1 -- > If ‘filename.ly’ contains more than one \score block, then the rest of the > scores will be output in numbered files, starting with ‘filename-1.pdf’. -- > This is a regression:  you need to use \book

Re: New web site moved to master

2009-08-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 08:06:43PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > I'm currently updating master with changes in current web-gop > (d6a6b62af6b8d92dea7d8b6ab02cdc99eb6c5dd3). Please no longer push new > changes to this branch; note I made many adjustments in file paths and > in Texinfo stuff for pr

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
2009/8/5 John Mandereau : > dots.ly before > dots.ly after > > collision-mesh.ly before > collision-mesh.ly after I think even this simple case might fail if the dots were placed in the Voice context: << c''4. \\ b'4. >> In the example that Mark found, the non-aligned notes are certainly superior

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Neil Puttock wrote: > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Okay, so dots.ly looks better and collision-mesh.ly looks worse. So what's the solution? This is probably ridiculous, but if there were some way to test for meshing, so that the Dot_column_engraver would stay in Staff..

Fixing configure with Autoconf 2.64

2009-08-05 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hello, I need this patch to run ./autogen.sh with the latest Autoconf version (2.64). The only earlier version I am able to test is 2.63, which works fine with the patch. The warnings I am seeing and workarounds are here: http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/manual/autoconf/Expanded-Before-Require

Regression in docs: Output-suffix does not work as documented in AU 3.2.1

2009-08-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
> I am top posting. This is an example of something that should be sent to lilypond-devel, rather than to the frogs list. There are many developers who are not on the frogs list. Therefore, I've forwarded this to the -devel list. Thanks, Carl Sorensen On 8/5/09 5:12 PM, "Ian Hulin" wrote:

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 05 août 2009 à 22:13 +0100, Neil Puttock a écrit : > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Indeed :-P dots.ly before dots.ly after collision-mesh.ly before collision-mesh.ly after John <><><><> signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numé

Re: is (context-has-engraver? ctx sym) possible?

2009-08-05 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky : > Then is there a way to access the current (not default) layout? I don't think so. Even ly:grob-layout seems to return the default layout. > Or are you saying that (context-has-engraver? ctx sym) isn't > possible? It works fine unless you use \with, then it won't pick

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Mark Polesky wrote: > > > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :)> > > Where's that? > > Oh, I see, it's a regression test. How do I run a regression test? Oh, right. I think I'm going to stop now, since I'm clearly just being stupid. Sorry. - Mark

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Mark Polesky wrote: > > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :)> > Where's that? Oh, I see, it's a regression test. How do I run a regression test? - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky : > Where's that? http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob;f=input/regression/collision-mesh.ly;h=53b02aa4cbda8e1c8834a72046b980d500a5a975;hb=HEAD ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lis

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Neil Puttock wrote: > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Where's that? - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: is (context-has-engraver? ctx sym) possible?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Neil Puttock wrote: > Unfortunately, this doesn't seem particularly useful, since you need > access to the correct output-def: $defaultlayout won't pick up a > Span_arpeggio_engraver in the Staff context if it's been added using > \with. Then is there a way to access the current (not default) la

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky : > I didn't, but unfortunately my system can hardly do anything these > days... If someone else would like to run the regtests with this > change, that would be great. Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Regards, Neil _

Re: is (context-has-engraver? ctx sym) possible?

2009-08-05 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky : > Is it possible to write a scheme procedure to test if a given > context contains a particular engraver? Like... > (context-has-engraver? context 'Span_arpeggio_engraver) >From engraver-doc-string: (if in-which-contexts (let* ((layout-alist (ly:output-descr

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > I'm > > thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the > > Voice context than in the Staff context. > > I suspect that this will give many collisions (dots on top of > noteheads) when this is combined with polyphonic chords. Did you > runthis through t

Re: Unable to use git

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > Have you entered a wrong password more than three times? If the server runs > denyhosts, it will then add the IP address to /etc/hosts.deny and you won't > be > able to connect... I don't ever recall entering a password anywhere except at savannah.gnu.org. How can

Re: Unable to use git

2009-08-05 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 5. August 2009 22:07:16 schrieb Trevor Daniels: > Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:21 PM > > > I've not been able to connect to git via SSH since Saturday, > > and nothing I've tried > > has worked. I'd like to take care of

Unable to use git

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:21 PM I've not been able to connect to git via SSH since Saturday, and nothing I've tried has worked. I'd like to take care of that first, but I'm out of ideas. Can you remind us what you have tried so far? Re-boot (obviously yes?) Obtain fre

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Mark Polesky wrote: > On the user list, Nick Payne shed light on a potential problem > with the Dot_column_engraver. > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00132.html > > Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm > thinking th

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-08-05 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 05 août 2009 à 09:09 +0100, Trevor Daniels a écrit : > Any further thoughts? At least one of the terms listed by Mark is introduced in the Learning Manual: "grob" in 4.1.2 Objects and interfaces. I see this glossary could be a quick reference that briefly defines each term and gives c

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Valentin Villenave wrote: > Mark, can you make this change on your own, modify the documentation > accordingly (don't forget NEWS), and make sure it doesn't break > anything (esp. wrt regtests)? If you do all of this, I think it should > be safe for you to push the change (if any problem occurs l

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:07 PM On 8/5/09 7:22 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: I think it was a pity that the groundwork for a more generic approach was not laid down right away, so we could have easily added the aliases for all the other uses of crossheads I'll try to g

Re: Adjusting "Piano centered dynamics" template and "Les Néréides"

2009-08-05 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 03 août 2009 à 22:32 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > The general steps are: > 1) copy snippet from Documentation/snippets/ to new/ > 2) remove any non-english texidoc?? items from the \header > 3) edit file at will > 4) run makelsr.py without arguments > > I'm not certain if these step

New web site moved to master

2009-08-05 Thread John Mandereau
The web site in Texinfo is on master now, except the examples (see my other email). All of what I could think of the technical status and to-do is in the commmit message. There are many regressions compared to the output , but my goal is to have no regressions (and even bugfixes) compared to the

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky : > Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm > thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the > Voice context than in the Staff context. Mark, can you make this change on your own, modify the documentation accordingly (don't forget NEWS), and

Examples (for the web site and complete scores) status

2009-08-05 Thread John Mandereau
The new directory Documentation/examples that was proposed to host examples for the web site plays a duplicate role of input/ and input/mutopia. What about cleaning up these two directories (that is, deleting unused input files and cleaning up makefiles) and use input/ instead of creating a new di

conditionally eliminating lyric extender

2009-08-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, I want to [automagically] conditionally eliminate lyric extenders when (1) the end of the syllable which has the extender is after [i.e., to the right of] the melisma's last note; and, (2) the distance to the following syllable is less than the minimum extender length [plus

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Marc Hohl
dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us schrieb: Please dont rename the cross head, it has a name, predating any usage stemming from rock musicians jargon. That name is further 'blessed' by the unicode standard, "Musical Symbol X Notehead", 1D143. I think Lilypond should propose both, the "official", s

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm > thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the > Voice context than in the Staff context. Good idea. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org htt

is (context-has-engraver? ctx sym) possible?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
This question is already buried in this post: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-08/msg00154.html I'm starting a new thread to make it more visible. Is it possible to write a scheme procedure to test if a given context contains a particular engraver? Like... (context-has-engra

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread demery
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009, Carl Sorensen said: > > > > On 8/5/09 7:22 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > >>> >>> In the meantime, we can move forward on tablature. >>> >>> As I see it, the current decision causes problems only if we were >>> to change >>> to xHead in the future and eliminate deadNote

Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread David Kastrup
Mark Polesky writes: > On the user list, Nick Payne shed light on a potential problem > with the Dot_column_engraver. > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00132.html > > Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm > thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be

Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Polesky
On the user list, Nick Payne shed light on a potential problem with the Dot_column_engraver. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00132.html Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the Voice contex

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/5/09 7:22 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: >> >> In the meantime, we can move forward on tablature. >> >> As I see it, the current decision causes problems only if we were >> to change >> to xHead in the future and eliminate deadNote. And I see no plans >> in the >> future to eliminate dead

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:09 AM Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:16 PM Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:06 PM It would be nice to have some central place that explains some "internals" concepts. ... It would be nice to have a LilyPond-speci

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:42 PM On 8/5/09 2:44 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought the outcome of the discussion

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:42 PM On 8/5/09 2:44 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought the outcome of the discussion

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/5/09 2:44 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > Carl, Marc > > After the long discussion about naming the > new cross-head function and associated predefs > I see you have retained deadNote as the base > name. > > I thought the outcome of the discussion > was to use xHead or crossHead for the b

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Marc Hohl
Trevor Daniels schrieb: Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought the outcome of the discussion was to use xHead or crossHead for the base name with deadNote being defined to

Re: keyboard navigation in html docs

2009-08-05 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/5 Graham Percival : > Ok, I think we have enough positive, and no negative, responses. > Valentin, could add this to the tracker, so that we can lose it? "So that we _can_ lose it"? :-) There you go: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=825 Regards, Valentin __

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought the outcome of the discussion was to use xHead or crossHead for the base name with deadNote being defined to invoke the base function

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:16 PM Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:06 PM It would be nice to have some central place that explains some "internals" concepts. Here are examples of things that a new developer might have to ask about, or perhaps spend a long time