Re: doc additions

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:13:32PM +, Werner wrote: > In the Notation Reference, maybe there should be added two things in > 1.3.2 Slurs, > first: that \slurDown, \slurUp will take affect on all following slurs, > second: that _( will make only this slur beeing downwards and ^( upwards. Than

Re: improving NR B.6 "The Feta Font"

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 8:25 PM, "Mark Polesky" wrote: > > > Neil Puttock wrote: >> I like it. Though it sacrifices a bit of maintainability, I >> think it's worth it when it looks so good. >> >> One thing I don't like is the (begin ...) form though, especially >> since there's no indentation for the h

Re: improving NR B.6 "The Feta Font"

2009-07-10 Thread Mark Polesky
Neil Puttock wrote: > I like it. Though it sacrifices a bit of maintainability, I > think it's worth it when it looks so good. > > One thing I don't like is the (begin ...) form though, especially > since there's no indentation for the helper functions inside. I would've been shocked had you not

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > Am Montag, 22. Juni 2009 15:31:14 schrieb Joe Neeman: >> A quick update on the new vertical spacing: [...] >> Anything I've missed? > > While the new vertical spacing looks great for full scores (one system per > page), I have now run int

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/11 Graham Percival : > Similiar stuff has happened to me, but since it involves the build > process, I never bothered trying to track down the problem.  I > just do a make clean, make web-clean (that's probably doc-clean > now), and regenerate everything. > > You could _try_ touching rhythms

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/11 Graham Percival : > - unless we delay 2.14 by a month or two... or four or five... the >  translations won't be ready. Let's give two weeks to update/translate new files marked with priority 1, then let's consider the translations are ready to move to the new website and are ready for th

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 5:52 PM, "Patrick McCarty" wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> >> On 7/10/09 5:32 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham Percival wrote: >

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/7/11 Graham Percival : > What about switching to the new website, but adding a note on the > first page to say that it hasn't been translated yet, but those > preferring other languages can browse the old website *here link*? I vote for this. The note should be translated, of course. Don't f

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 7/10/09 5:32 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham >>> Percival wrote: And by "could you produce instructions", Carl means "cou

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:46:40PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Graham >> Percival wrote: >> > You're fine, Patrick.  Carl hasn't read AU 3.2.2, so I was making >> > a cheeky comment.  You may recall that

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:46:40PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Graham > Percival wrote: > > You're fine, Patrick.  Carl hasn't read AU 3.2.2, so I was making > > a cheeky comment.  You may recall that a similar thing happened > > recently with the CG.  ;) > > A

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 5:32 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham >> Percival wrote: >>> And by "could you produce instructions", Carl means "could you >>> patch AU 3.2.2, since evidently the instructions

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham >> Percival wrote: >> > And by "could you produce instructions", Carl means "could you >> > patch AU 3.2.2, since evidently the instr

Re: web/ is still the main website

2009-07-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/7/10 Graham Percival : > Hi Jan, > > If RMS hadn't tied all those lisp scripts to an editor, I'd be > running them every day.  :P   Seriously, editor-specific really > useful scripts was a *huge* mistake. > > (does anybody know of a lightweight > "process-text-file-with-emacs-script foo" progr

Re: web/ is still the main website

2009-07-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/7/10 Graham Percival : > Hi Jan, > > If RMS hadn't tied all those lisp scripts to an editor, I'd be > running them every day.  :P   Seriously, editor-specific really > useful scripts was a *huge* mistake. > > (does anybody know of a lightweight > "process-text-file-with-emacs-script foo" progr

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 05:06:19PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > But in the docs, it does not. I suspect it's actually not compiling at all, > but just being included from the database somehow. And the LilyPond output > is from a buggy previous version that I was working on. But I don't know

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/11 Carl Sorensen : > The difference is two lines of comments.  The one that is showing up in the > docs is an older version than the one that is currently in rhythms.itely. > > Please note that the snippet is not an included file, but is actually part > of the text in rhythms.itely.  It's as

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:25:00PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham > Percival wrote: > > And by "could you produce instructions", Carl means "could you > > patch AU 3.2.2, since evidently the instructions there don't work > > any more". > > There are only in

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:46:18PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> >> But the fonts aren't installed right for my Inkscape, so I couldn't see any >> of the feta font stuff.  Can you produce instructions for installing the >> fonts properly fo

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 04:46:18PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > But the fonts aren't installed right for my Inkscape, so I couldn't see any > of the feta font stuff. Can you produce instructions for installing the > fonts properly for Inkscape? And by "could you produce instructions", Carl me

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 7/10/09 3:33 PM, "Patrick McCarty" wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Patrick McCarty wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have posted another patch to Rietveld: >>> >>> http://codereview.appspot.com/91075/show >>> >>> It addresses all o

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:42:09AM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > 2009/7/10 Graham Percival : > > That said, I still think that the new website would better meet > > the needs of most users, so I propose to add a link to the draft > > in 2-3 week. (hosted on lilypond.org/~graham/ ) > > So, you sti

Re: [Patch] Replace deprecated md5 module by hashlib

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/11 Neil Puttock : > How about using a `try' block to import conditionally? Alternatively, a conditional block based on testing sys.hexversion, which is already used in lilypond-book, could help. Cheers, John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lily

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 4:58 PM, "John Mandereau" wrote: > 2009/7/11 Carl Sorensen : >> Ahh -- there is a clue here that I hadn't noticed before.  The comments in >> the code are different in the snippet from  rhythms.itely and the doc >> output. >> >> That means that the snippet in rhythms.itely is *not*

Re: [Patch] Replace deprecated md5 module by hashlib

2009-07-10 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/7/9 Maximilian Albert : > 2009/7/9 Jan Nieuwenhuizen : >> On do, 2009-07-09 at 21:41 +0900, Maximilian Albert wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> while running the regtests I spotted a warning about the use of the >>> deprecated md5 module in scripts/lilypond-book.py. Attached is a patch >>> which replaces

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/11 Carl Sorensen : > Ahh -- there is a clue here that I hadn't noticed before.  The comments in > the code are different in the snippet from  rhythms.itely and the doc > output. > > That means that the snippet in rhythms.itely is *not* the one that is being > compiled for the docs. What are

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 4:13 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:58:29PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> >> When run from the command line, the output that results is attached as >> FromCommandLine.png. > > Are you running > lilypond foo.ly > ? That will call the lilypond from you

Re: improving NR B.6 "The Feta Font"

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 1:51 PM, "Mark Polesky" wrote: > I was having trouble finding glyphs in NR B.6, so I reorganized > things. I'm not saying I used the best approach, but I think this > would be an improvement. Any comments or suggestions? A better > approach? See the attached file. I like it a lot.

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
Sorry, I still don't master Google webmail key bindings well :-( 2009/7/11 John Mandereau : > work on bits of the translation infrastructure that have been dela lot > delayed. I meant "that have been delayed a lot". Best, John ___ lilypond-devel mai

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 3:33 PM, "Patrick McCarty" wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Patrick McCarty wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have posted another patch to Rietveld: >> >> http://codereview.appspot.com/91075/show >> >> It addresses all of the "Bugs with solutions" listed on the wiki page: >> >> h

Re: delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread John Mandereau
2009/7/10 Graham Percival : > Unless there's a totally unexpected deluge of help for the website > from my recent plea on the -user list, I can't imagine it being > ready for 2.14.  And I can't recommend delaying 2.14 just for a > new website. There are a few technical bits too. > That said, I s

Re: improving NR B.6 "The Feta Font"

2009-07-10 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/7/10 Mark Polesky : > I was having trouble finding glyphs in NR B.6, so I reorganized > things. I'm not saying I used the best approach, but I think this > would be an improvement. Any comments or suggestions? A better > approach? See the attached file. I like it. Though it sacrifices a bit

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:58:29PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > When run from the command line, the output that results is attached as > FromCommandLine.png. Are you running lilypond foo.ly ? That will call the lilypond from your PATH, which is probably a GUB version. Alternatively, if you

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/09 3:58 PM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: > > > > On 7/10/09 3:43 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:37:36PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: >>> Is there a different version of LilyPond called when make doc is running? I >>> can't figure out what the story is. Any

web/ is still the main website

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
Hi Jan, If RMS hadn't tied all those lisp scripts to an editor, I'd be running them every day. :P Seriously, editor-specific really useful scripts was a *huge* mistake. (does anybody know of a lightweight "process-text-file-with-emacs-script foo" program?) Anyway, somebody with git knowledge

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/7/10 Carl Sorensen : > I'll take a snippet that's in the docs (not one that's included as a file), > copy it to a .ly file, wrap it in \relative c''{}, and everything works > fine. > > But when I compile the docs with make doc, the snippet doesn't work. Can you explain in more detail how it

Re: Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:37:36PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > Is there a different version of LilyPond called when make doc is running? I > can't figure out what the story is. Any clues would be appreciated. There's different formatting options. - you can see (probably) the right options in

Snippets in doc compile different from stand-alone

2009-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
I'm trying to finish up the revisions to the autobeaming code. I've got it working just fine when I compile from the command line. But when snippets are included in the docs, they seem to compile different than from the command line. I'll take a snippet that's in the docs (not one that's include

Re: [PATCH] Improvements for the SVG backend

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Patrick McCarty wrote: > Hello, > > I have posted another patch to Rietveld: > > http://codereview.appspot.com/91075/show > > It addresses all of the "Bugs with solutions" listed on the wiki page: > > http://wiki.lilynet.net/index.php/SVG_backend Does anyone else ha

Re: improving NR B.6 "The Feta Font"

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:51:19PM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > I was having trouble finding glyphs in NR B.6, so I reorganized > things. I'm not saying I used the best approach, but I think this > would be an improvement. Any comments or suggestions? A better > approach? See the attached file. Lo

improving NR B.6 "The Feta Font"

2009-07-10 Thread Mark Polesky
I was having trouble finding glyphs in NR B.6, so I reorganized things. I'm not saying I used the best approach, but I think this would be an improvement. Any comments or suggestions? A better approach? See the attached file. Thanks. - Mark #(set-global-staff-size 16) #(begin ;; some hel

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread James E. Bailey
On 10.07.2009, at 18:18, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 10. Juli 2009 17:23:50 schrieb Trevor Daniels: Reinhold Please note that if you sign your messages in this way people using default Windows mail systems can't read them easily, and wi

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 10. Juli 2009 17:23:50 schrieb Trevor Daniels: > Reinhold > > Please note that if you sign your messages in > this way people using default Windows mail systems > can't read them easily, and will most probably > just ignore them. Ah, sorry

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Please note that if you sign your messages in this way people using default Windows mail systems can't read them easily, and will most probably just ignore them. They appear as shown below. Perhaps we could install PGP, but I probably will not bother, as only you and one other on the

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-10 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Montag, 22. Juni 2009 15:31:14 schrieb Joe Neeman: > A quick update on the new vertical spacing: [...] > Anything I've missed? While the new vertical spacing looks great for full scores (one system per page), I have now run into a case where the old system worked much better. In particular, t

Re: GUB: Patch for t1utils with glibc 2.10

2009-07-10 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
On ma, 2009-07-06 at 10:28 +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > On vr, 2009-07-03 at 16:48 -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I need this patch to compile t1utils with GUB. I also bumped the > > package. > > Thanks. Will this build with glibc < 2.10? Yes it does. Applied. Thanks!

Re: Patch: Delete intermediate ps files

2009-07-10 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/10 Graham Percival : >> I've just got the same error.  It's caused by Graham's essay makefile >> hacking. > > Sorry, I'll branch a dev/graham and then revert it. OK, thanks. Now the docs compiled fine and I could check that the result of my patch is as intended. Any further comments or ar

delaying new website after 2.14

2009-07-10 Thread Graham Percival
Unless there's a totally unexpected deluge of help for the website from my recent plea on the -user list, I can't imagine it being ready for 2.14. And I can't recommend delaying 2.14 just for a new website. That said, I still think that the new website would better meet the needs of most users, s