lybook-db and make xxx-clean

2008-04-24 Thread Joe Neeman
It seems that some changes in the way lilypond-books output is stored have broken certain build rules, particularly ones that clean stuff. For example, $ make check $ make test-clean $ time make check real0m31.410s user0m25.598s sys0m4.084s $ make test-clean && rm -fr out/lybook-db $ t

Re: [PATCH] note-by-number - horizontal flag positioning

2008-04-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008/4/24 Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/4/23 Han-Wen Nienhuys : > > > The reference point is the center of the stem, and the flag attaches > > to the right side of the stem. Yes, I meant : the 0-point of the flag should be at the edge of the stem. > Because the flags are not al

Re: [PATCH] note-by-number - horizontal flag positioning

2008-04-24 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
2008/4/23 Han-Wen Nienhuys : > The reference point is the center of the stem, and the flag attaches > to the right side of the stem. 2008/4/24 Han-Wen Nienhuys : > If it is a rounding error, the difference should be 1 pixel at most; > on a 600 dpi printer, that's practically invisible. There may

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:29:54 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/24 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > The idea of a cross reference is to get me where I want directly. > > If it is in the vicinity of interesting material, nice (hopefully > > everything is intere

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:40:58 +0200 > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Having to specify a particular snippet makes sure that this snippet >> (and thus the construct) indeed appears in the docs, and that its >> absence will be noticed when

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:40:58 +0200 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having to specify a particular snippet makes sure that this snippet > (and thus the construct) indeed appears in the docs, and that its > absence will be noticed when compiling the documentation. You misunderstand. @li

Re: patch: (sort of) for note-by-number

2008-04-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008/4/24 Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/4/23 Han-Wen Nienhuys : > > > > looks like a rounding error. Do you see the same if you use extreme > > magnification? > > If I use \fontsize #5 and print it I can see the discontinuity in the > stem very clearly and even the gap between

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Does anybody really want to keep @lsr{} (in addition to @lsrdir{})? It isn't used in any finished GDP sections, and I'm 90% certain it isn't worth keeping. @lsrdir{Pitches, Pitches} points to the whole collection of pitch snippets. @lsr{pitches, adding-ambitus-per-voice.l

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
"Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2008/4/24 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The idea of a cross reference is to get me where I want directly. If it >> is in the vicinity of interesting material, nice (hopefully everything >> is interesting). But "it is good for you to

Re: snippet authorship

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:39:42 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Yes, but that way the author's name won't be displayed at all > > > (even the comment will be stripped out). > > > > Umm, yes. That is exactly the point.

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/24 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The idea of a cross reference is to get me where I want directly. If it > is in the vicinity of interesting material, nice (hopefully everything > is interesting). But "it is good for you to wade through unrelated, > closely situated material" i

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > b) we *want* users to skim through the snippet list. LilyPond can > do things that most people never think of -- even I get surprised > from time to time when I see neat snippets. (IIRC the last time > was about a month ago) Sorry, this argument doe

Re: translation module python failure for make web

2008-04-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Evidently not, sorry. :( Too bad there isn't any other "grumpy Graham" to yell at you :-) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/l

Re: snippet authorship

2008-04-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Yes, but that way the author's name won't be displayed at all (even > > the comment will be stripped out). > > Umm, yes. That is exactly the point. In this case, why on earth would you like the authors to sign their snippets *at all*? > We

Re: snippet authorship

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:24:12 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Compromise: could makelsr.py ignore > > % GDB: ... > > lines? That way we could tag snippet authorship with > > % GDB: Thanks to Foo Bar for this snippet >

Re: translation module python failure for make web

2008-04-24 Thread John Mandereau
It looks like you haven't removed buildscripts/langdefs.pyc. Haven't you read my previous message on this list asking everybody to do this? Cheers, John Graham Percival wrote: > /home/lilypond/lilypond/stepmake/stepmake/podir-targets.make:14: > warning: ignoring old commands for target `po-updat

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:13:03 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a lazy user, I always prefer being pointed to a specific snippet > rather than a bunch of snippets I won't take the time to read. Addendum: pretend that you're a lazy user, interested in accidentals. Look at

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > c) if a snippet is extremely relevant, we'll include it directly > with @lilypondfile. Yes indeed. OK, I'm running out of counter-arguments :) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypon

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Till Rettig
Graham Percival schrieb: No, @lsr{} is completely distinct from @lilypondfile. @lsr{} would create a link to a specific snippet; it would be used in the @seealso Snippets: @lsr{} Yes, I know, but the functionality is quite the same in my opinion: to give access to a specific snippet releva

Re: snippet authorship

2008-04-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Compromise: could makelsr.py ignore > % GDB: ... > lines? That way we could tag snippet authorship with > % GDB: Thanks to Foo Bar for this snippet > without cluttering up the official docs. Yes, but that way the author's name won't be display

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:13:03 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Counter-arguments welcome for the next three or four days. :) > > As a lazy user, I always prefer being pointed to a specific snippet > rather than a bunch

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival wrote: > We could then rename @lsrdir{} to @rlsr{} and use the same format > as all the other @rfoo{} macros. That would simply the doc > source. > > Unless I hear voiciferous complaints before Monday, I'll remove > @lsr{}. Very good. We'll be able to replace @lsr with @rlsr as

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Counter-arguments welcome for the next three or four days. :) No, really? :) As a lazy user, I always prefer being pointed to a specific snippet rather than a bunch of snippets I won't take the time to read. There's no way @lsr can't be more use

snippet authorship

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
We like to indicate the authors of snippets in LSR (or at least, some people do, and I'm not prepared to argue against this point), but I don't want individual names in the docs. (this would quickly get ridiculous) Compromise: could makelsr.py ignore % GDB: ... lines? That way we could tag snipp

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:38:50 +0200 John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > We could then rename @lsrdir{} to @rlsr{} and use the same format > > as all the other @rfoo{} macros. That would simply the doc > > source. > > > > Unless I hear voiciferous complaints befo

Re: translation module python failure for make web

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
Evidently not, sorry. :( - Graham On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:26:45 +0200 John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It looks like you haven't removed buildscripts/langdefs.pyc. Haven't > you read my previous message on this list asking everybody to do this? > > Cheers, > John >

Re: patch: (sort of) for note-by-number

2008-04-24 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
2008/4/23 Han-Wen Nienhuys : > looks like a rounding error. Do you see the same if you use extreme > magnification? If I use \fontsize #5 and print it I can see the discontinuity in the stem very clearly and even the gap between the stem and the flag. :-) As I tried to say in the previous ema