'make all' fails

2004-03-22 Thread David Bobroff
CVS ChangeLog 1.939 exits thusly: cp -p /usr/src/lilypond/config.h out/config.h rm -f ./out/accidental.dep; DEPENDENCIES_OUTPUT="./out/accidental.dep ./out/accidental.o" g++ -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSTRING_UTILS_INLINED -Iinclude -I./out -I../flower/include -I../flower/./out -I../flower/include -O2

Re: Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I'd prefer RubyPond :-) > > To be serious: the current implementation is o.k., and, IIRC, Han-Wen > mentioned in the interview at linuxmusician.com that the C++ part is > planned to shrink away. > > I also thought a lot of wether using scheme/guile as semi-backend

Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Why not to implement everything in scheme and > get rid of gcc -compiling of the source? Or, is it the lexical > parser which forces the use of gcc? I like Scheme very much, but I'm not sure still whether it's a comfortable system for implementing large systems. I have

Re: Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Julian Squires
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:06:11PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > Bigloo produces C code which would then have to be compiled with gcc anyway. g++ produces assembler which would then have to be assembled with gas anyway. Languages are for the programmer's benefit. (It's interesting to note that bigl

Re: Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Paul Scott
Julian Squires wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:01:17PM +0200, Heikki Johannes Junes wrote: Why not to implement everything in scheme and get rid of gcc -compiling of the source? Or, is it the lexical parser which forces the use of gcc? Let's not forget that scheme can be compiled into fa

Re: reading material?

2004-03-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > If you're suitably masochistic, then you could come up with a C++ > > solution, but I doubt it would be natural or elegant. Besides, I don't > > appreciate masochism when it comes to programming. > > Actually, this will calculate x ^ (2 ^ 3), so the procedure should b

Re: reading material?

2004-03-22 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:51:12 -0600, Douglas a dit : >> (define (iterate func k) >> "Produce the function x -> FUNC(FUNC .. (x) .. ) " >> (if (> k 0) >> (lambda (x) (func ((iterate func (1- k)) x))) >> (lambda (x) x))) >> >> (define to-6th-power (iterate sqr 3)) >> >> If you're suitably ma

Re: Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:00:01 +0100, Matthias a dit : > On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:37:24PM +0100, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: >> I'm not sure that there will be pletor of volonteers for recoding >> thousands of C++ LOC in whatever other language. > You just have to write a C++2scm translator ;-) >>

Re: Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:37:24PM +0100, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: > I'm not sure that there will be pletor of volonteers for recoding > thousands of C++ LOC in whatever other language. You just have to write a C++2scm translator ;-) > hmmm, thinking of it... I volonteer for LilyPond in Common Lisp!

Re: Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Paul Scott
Heikki Johannes Junes wrote: Why not to implement everything in scheme and get rid of gcc -compiling of the source? Or, is it the lexical parser which forces the use of gcc? The general idea would be that C++ is compiled and scheme is interpreted. The heavy calculations should often be more e

Re: Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Julian Squires
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:01:17PM +0200, Heikki Johannes Junes wrote: > Why not to implement everything in scheme and get rid of gcc -compiling of the > source? Or, is it the lexical parser which forces the use of gcc? Let's not forget that scheme can be compiled into fast code (see bigloo etc).

Re: reading material?

2004-03-22 Thread Julian Squires
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 12:51:12PM -0600, Douglas A Linhardt wrote: > Agreed. We're off target. And I'm not trying to start a flame war. > I really don't want to start an argument. I just want to I promise > not to post any more to this thread (unless, of course I change my > mind ;) ). Please

Re: Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Bonjour Heikki! Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:01:17 +0200 (EET), tu as dit : > Why not to implement everything in scheme and get rid of gcc -compiling of the > source? Or, is it the lexical parser which forces the use of gcc? I'm not sure that there will be pletor of volonteers for recoding thousands o

Why not to implement everything in scheme?

2004-03-22 Thread Heikki Johannes Junes
Why not to implement everything in scheme and get rid of gcc -compiling of the source? Or, is it the lexical parser which forces the use of gcc? -- Heikki Junes ___ Lilypond-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: reading material?

2004-03-22 Thread Douglas A Linhardt
Agreed. We're off target. And I'm not trying to start a flame war. I really don't want to start an argument. I just want to I promise not to post any more to this thread (unless, of course I change my mind ;) ). > > We're going off-topic here, but I'm pretty sure that you know as well > as I

script-abbreciations.ly: text attatchments broken

2004-03-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, > > I just built 2.1.33, and since the script-abbreviations.ly is still > completely broken, I kind of "repaired" it (see attachment). This is already fixed in CVS. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen

script-abbreciations.ly: text attatchments broken

2004-03-22 Thread Matthias Kilian
Hi, I just built 2.1.33, and since the script-abbreviations.ly is still completely broken, I kind of "repaired" it (see attachment). Unfortunately, it's still incorrect (wrong characters for `|' and `>' due to math mode), but at least now it displays something reasonable. Ciao, Kili % t

Re: wrong position of rhythmic dots

2004-03-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Since this is a oft-recurring pattern, I've replaced all calls with > a new function Staff_symbol_referencer::get_rounded_position() I was just about to commit an overloaded function for `int'. :-) Werner ___ Lilypond-devel mailing list [EMAIL

squished rests [was: problematic output]

2004-03-22 Thread David Bobroff
I don't have a demo *.ly file just yet, but a bit of experimentation has led me to believe that perhaps there is something amiss with the default value of . At least when I did \override I could force them wider. In one case when I did this I found that a bar line which occured after a 4 bar re

Re: problematic output v2.1.33.hwn1

2004-03-22 Thread David Bobroff
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 15:17, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I've got bar lines slicing through > > whole measure rests. (!!!) > > Can you send a demonstration .ly ? I'll try. Recently I, and others, have had trouble reproducing strange output with short files. > > Now it seems > > to have been chan

problematic output v2.1.33.hwn1

2004-03-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > When I saw Han-Wen's post on info-lilypond about "serious problems with > randomly misplaced symbols" being fixed I was optimistic. I compiled > and tried it out. While some of the issues were fixed (no more > "phantom" beams floating around, for example...) I'm now ge

problematic output v2.1.33.hwn1

2004-03-22 Thread David Bobroff
When I saw Han-Wen's post on info-lilypond about "serious problems with randomly misplaced symbols" being fixed I was optimistic. I compiled and tried it out. While some of the issues were fixed (no more "phantom" beams floating around, for example...) I'm now getting some really bizarre spacing

Re: info problems

2004-03-22 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hello, On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 04:55:21PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > How about > info libc printf > vs > info bash printf the former doesn't get me to the printf basics, though. I have to use: info "(libc)Formatted Output" But that's not problem of info. The later doesn't exist on my

Re: info problems

2004-03-22 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:00:10 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) > > > * lilypond: (lilypond/lilypond)Invoking LilyPond. Titling LilyPond scores. > > How about simply not including that entry, and just have the top-level > entry? Indeed. > This ties into another topic, hand

Re: install-info problems

2004-03-22 Thread Karl Berry
install-info: menu item `mup2ly' already exists, for file `lilypond/lilypond' Well, the error message is misleading (I'll look into that), but install-info sorts entries within sections. I think that's why nothing is happening? k P.S. Thanks for reporting the offset bug. I'm going to be

Re: info problems

2004-03-22 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:37:04 +0100 (CET) > From: Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Hmm. If I now say `info lilypond', I don't see the top lilypond > > > page but `5 Invoking LilyPond', one level too deep. > > > > That is because that node name is an exact match: > > > > * lilypo

RE: Documentation of Architecture / Design?

2004-03-22 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I think advanced users often use this reference, so what about calling it Advanced Reference or a similar name, which is from a user's point of view. > I have also misinterpreted the name "Program Reference" as "Programming > Reference". I don't really have any better suggestion, though. > A long

Re: Documentation of Architecture / Design?

2004-03-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I have also misinterpreted the name "Program Reference" as "Programming Reference". I don't really have any better suggestion, though. A long name could be "Full documentation of all contexts, objects, properties, ..." but we need something shorter. Mats Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTE

problem with ties

2004-03-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I know that the code for ties and slurs needs a rewrite, but the > positioning should be fine already, shouldn't it? IIRC, this also didn't work in 2.0 - I am deferring any fixes to 2.3. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanw

Re: wrong position of rhythmic dots

2004-03-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Doh, I don't want to check the lilypond source code for similar > > rounding problems... > > I've now fixed all calls to Staff_symbol_referencer::get_positions. Thanks. Since this is a oft-recurring pattern, I've replaced all calls with a new function Staff_symbol

problem with ties

2004-03-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I know that the code for ties and slurs needs a rewrite, but the positioning should be fine already, shouldn't it? Werner == % % This file shows problems with ties in lilypond % CVS 2004-03-21 17:12 MET. % % . For chords

Re: wrong position of rhythmic dots

2004-03-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Doh, I don't want to check the lilypond source code for similar > rounding problems... I've now fixed all calls to Staff_symbol_referencer::get_positions. Werner ___ Lilypond-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/lis

Re: wrong position of rhythmic dots

2004-03-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I wonder whether a patch similar to > > * lily/stem.cc (position_noteheads): rounding error robustness. > > (from 2004-01-25) can fix the problem with incorrectly positioned > rhythmic dots -- you told me that you can't repeat the problem. It *is* a rounding issue! In file dot-column.cc, fu