Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

Yes. We created one back in 2002, in response to SugarCRM decision to impose a ridiculous requirement that their attribution be permanently displayed in the center of any page using derivatives of their code. We felt that the persistence of the display in their requirement was an obvious attempt to

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

On 04/12/2018 07:07, simon@csiro.au wrote: Is there an open source license that also includes an obligation on the user to make public attribution of use of the software in a specific form? The original BSD licence had an advertising clause, but advertising clauses are now considered a b

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

A possible use in case of "too many attribution/advertising clauses" is to provide a link to a page with all licenses, dependencies, ... You can see a simple example in Android or in the Spotify application, in settings. There is a page called "Licenses". [image: PrestaShop]

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Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution

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Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

Dear Danese, > But we did decide that a brief attribution might be a desirable > gesture in some cases. The resulting OSI-approved (though seldom-used) > license is called the Attribution Assurance License. The clause in question is: 2. Redistributions of the Code in binary form must b

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

Simon, > What I have in mind is for software that is used to drive a web-site, > where we just want to request that a logo with the words "Powered by > ACME technology" is displayed on the website. To me, this smells somewhat like an "Xy problem" where one is asking about attempted solution rat

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

Yeah, let's hear the problem statement first. There are a few issues with "badgeware", software which requires a web-page acknowledgement: First, it makes a legal requirement for simple use, rather than creation of a derivative work. In general, we don't expect simple users to have read the licens

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

OSD #10 prevents certain kinds of badgeware licenses: 10. License Must Be Technology-Neutral No provision of the license may be predicated on any individual technology or style of interface. Rationale: This provision is aimed specifically at licenses which require an explicit gesture of

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

Antoine Thomas dixit: >A possible use in case of "too many attribution/advertising clauses" is to >provide a link to a page with all licenses, dependencies, ... Yes, we have a long manpage with all them in MirBSD, but this only works if the licence does *not* require the exact style of presentati

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution

Antoine Thomas dixit: >For web apps, you can add an attribution file at a known path, e.g: >foo.com/attribution.md, this is easy to check even if the link is not No, this will absolutely not work, imposing the presence of certain files/locations is too onerous. The use case is interesting, but I

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution

On Tuesday 04 December 2018 11:34, simon@csiro.au wrote: > I don't think the intention is counter to the spirit of the OSD. But is there > a better approach? I think it was the XMB forum that many years ago used to have a comment in the code where the footer copyright info is displayed on t

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

It's even simpler than that: what if someone finds a bit of the code from the project (maybe a function or two, or an entire source file) interesting and would like to use them in another project? What if that other project doesn't have a user interface of any kind? Licenses which require attributi

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

Kevin P. Fleming dixit: >It's even simpler than that: what if someone finds a bit of the code >from the project (maybe a function or two, or an entire source file) >interesting and would like to use them in another project? What if >that other project doesn't have a user interface of any kind? Lic

[License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

[Apologies - I subscribed in digest mode so my response to your initial comments was not threaded, and this won't be either - fixed now.] I guess what we are after is what you have referred to as a 'gesture'. Probably shouldn't have used the term 'obligation' in the subject line - I've been lo

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

There is no problem if it's a request rather than a requirement. One can hope that scientific ethics applies to the kind of folks who make SAAS out of your software. Thanks Bruce On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:54 AM wrote: > [Apologies - I subscribed in digest mode so my response to your in

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

Bruce Perens wrote: > There is no problem if it's a request rather than a requirement. One can hope > that scientific ethics applies Bruce, I think you go too far. A request to be ethical isn't enough. It is, however, reasonable to demand this: Licensee must display the name and sour

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

Dear Simon, > What would make our bosses happy (and thus willing to continue to > support our contributions) would be: where a site uses our product as > the primary basis for a publicly-available service, that a gesture of > acknowledgment is publicly-visible. Then I suggest you (adopt the GP

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

Chris Lamb suggest the adoption of GPLv3 with the following appendage: > If you are happy with SimonWidgets, please express that by retaining the references to SimonCorp. This does not affect your rights under the GPLv3+. "Happiness" is typically not enforceable as a license condition. (You

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 07:53:17PM +, simon@csiro.au wrote: > [Apologies - I subscribed in digest mode so my response to your initial > comments was not threaded, and this won't be either - fixed now.] > > > I guess what we are after is what you have referred to as a 'gesture'. > Probab

Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?

> Having open source output is a great thing for any organization. It can be > difficult to quantify > in a more tangible form when you are facing legislators and ranking agency > officials who are > considering your budget. Badgeware would conceptually be a way for agency > middle > manage