Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread Pamela Chestek
On 2/7/2021 3:09 PM, James wrote: On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:27 PM Langley, Stuart wrote: Thank you. The rationale is that in a company like ours (Disney in this case, but others obviously would share this concern) trademarks are a fundamental value of the company. We license marks very inten

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 5:16 PM Thorsten Glaser wrote: > VM (Vicky) Brasseur dixit: > > >> Can I suggest that you give your new license a name to clearly > >> distinguish it from other licenses, particularly the ALv2? > > > > +1 to this suggestion… > > Before doing so, I’d consider the suggestion

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
VM (Vicky) Brasseur dixit: >> Can I suggest that you give your new license a name to clearly >> distinguish it from other licenses, particularly the ALv2? > > +1 to this suggestion… Before doing so, I’d consider the suggestion of reaching out to the ASF and asking whether they would take this for

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread Langley, Stuart
> -Original Message- > From: License-discuss [mailto:license-discuss-boun...@lists.opensource.org] > On Behalf Of Brian Behlendorf > Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 1:56 PM > To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org > Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache Lic

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread Brian Behlendorf
Nothing about the proposed changes seems OSI non-conformant (though from a practical point of view I question their net value) but, since we're on the subject of trademarks, the Apache Software Foundation has objected in the past to folks using the phrase "modified Apache license" to describe l

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread Langley, Stuart
> -Original Message- > From: James [mailto:purplei...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 1:10 PM > To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org > Cc: mc...@lexpan.law; Langley, Stuart > Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License > > >

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread VM (Vicky) Brasseur
Mark Thomas wrote on 7/2/21 03:27: Hi Stuart, Can I suggest that you give your new license a name to clearly distinguish it from other licenses, particularly the ALv2? +1 to this suggestion… Downstream users of your open source products need to describe the licenses of their dependencies and

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread Langley, Stuart
Mark, that is our intention. If we presented it for approval it would be the whole license with the change, and under a distinct name. I wanted to float the suggestion here to get just the kind of feedback I'm getting. > -Original Message- > From: License-discuss [mailto:license-disc

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread James
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:27 PM Langley, Stuart wrote: > > Thank you. The rationale is that in a company like ours (Disney in this > case, but others obviously would share this concern) trademarks are a > fundamental value of the company. We license marks very intentionally and > are not comfo

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread Langley, Stuart
e.org Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License Further, since this seems a reasonable change, why not present it to Apache as a friendly amendment and see if they want to make it into an Apache 2.1 license? I mean, if it's good for Disney, why wouldn't it be good for

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
:license-discuss-boun...@lists.opensource.org] > On Behalf Of McCoy Smith > Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 6:30 PM > To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org > Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License > > > > You probably want to explain the rationale for you

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-07 Thread Langley, Stuart
License-discuss [mailto:license-discuss-boun...@lists.opensource.org] On Behalf Of McCoy Smith Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 6:30 PM To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License You probably want to explain the rationale for your changes in the language, w

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-06 Thread Russell Nelson
Further, since this seems a reasonable change, why not present it to Apache as a friendly amendment and see if they want to make it into an Apache 2.1 license? I mean, if it's good for Disney, why wouldn't it be good for everyone else? -russ On 2/6/21 8:29 PM, McCoy Smith wrote: You probably

Re: [License-discuss] Modified Apache License

2021-02-06 Thread McCoy Smith
You probably want to explain the rationale for your changes in the language, which in redline would look like this: 6. Trademarks. This License does not grant permission to use the trade names, trademarks, service marks, or product names of the Licensor and its affiliates, except as required for r