Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-16 Thread Myrle Krantz
Nicholas Weinstock has made an important point here: commercial entities rely on the OSI list of approved licenses when making contracts. That's good for the OSI. They will only continue to rely on that list if they understand how the list evolves. Best, Myrle On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 8:09 PM Br

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-16 Thread Bruce Perens via License-discuss
IMO for specialized licenses (I'm thinking of SIL again) 1. There has to be a better license first. Which might unfortunately mean making it sometimes, and tolerating yet another license. Making it is for someone admitted to the Bar to do. 2. The better license must be evangelized to the community

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-15 Thread Marc Jones
; > Subject: RE: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses > > > > One of the parts of my job is reviewing commercial contracts. Some of > those > > contracts include references to Open Source. For example, they might say > > something like "Supplier

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-15 Thread Russell Nelson
On 12/13/22 22:48, Lawrence Rosen wrote: Brad and the OSI have ONLY the authority to determine whether licenses satisfy the Open Source Definition AND NOTHING MORE. Yesbut. We are also the representatives of the idea of Open Source to the community. As such, we have a responsibility to promote

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-15 Thread McCoy Smith
> -Original Message- > From: Nicholas Matthew Neft Weinstock > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 11:01 AM > To: ch...@dibona.com; license-discuss@lists.opensource.org; > mc...@lexpan.law > Subject: RE: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses > > On

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-15 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Nicholas Matthew Neft Weinstock of Qualcomm wrote: > Without commenting on WHETHER any licenses should be > deprecated/disapproved/legacy, nor on WHICH licenses are appropriate > candidates, I would like to suggest a consideration related to HOW to do > so. +1 (… and this may be the first time in

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-15 Thread Nicholas Matthew Neft Weinstock
ck Patent Counsel Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. From: License-discuss On Behalf Of Chris DiBona Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 1:34 PM To: mc...@lexpan.law; license-discuss@lists.opensource.org Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses WARNING: This email originat

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-14 Thread Pamela Chestek
ss@lists.opensource.org > Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses > > To do some foreshadowing, the Working Group that was formed to make > recommendations for improving the license review process will soon be > publishing its r

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-14 Thread Chris DiBona
:08 PM McCoy Smith wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: License-discuss On > > Behalf Of Pamela Chestek > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 11:47 AM > > To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org > > Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapprovin

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-14 Thread McCoy Smith
> -Original Message- > From: License-discuss On > Behalf Of Pamela Chestek > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 11:47 AM > To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org > Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses > > To do some foreshadowing

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-14 Thread Pamela Chestek
ce Initiative On 12/14/2022 11:30 AM, McCoy Smith wrote: From: License-discuss On Behalf Of Lawrence Rosen Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2022 7:48 PM To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org Subject: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses For what my own limited opinion is worth,

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-14 Thread McCoy Smith
>>From: License-discuss On >>Behalf Of Lawrence Rosen >>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2022 7:48 PM >>To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org >>Subject: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses >>For what my own limited opinion is worth, I certain

Re: [License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-14 Thread Bruce Perens via License-discuss
Hi Larry, I am sorry to say so, but you really made this sound as if you were taking it as a personal threat. Unnecessarily. Your own license was written by an attorney, yourself, and is not in such danger as the "crayon" licenses, which certainly should be deprecated, any my first candidate would

[License-discuss] Retroactively disapproving licenses

2022-12-13 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Brad Kuhn wrote in his long and opinionated email: I've been suggesting that the OSI should have a dis-approval or delisting process, capable of being initiated by someone other than the license steward, for a long time, but the OSI has been pretty resistant to this idea.