On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 6:34 PM Coraline Ada Ehmke
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> On Mar 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Drew DeVault wrote:
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> I have some thoughts of my own regarding the ethical licensing movement.
> I hope we can promote a more civil discussion among peers, rather than
> between opponents.
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> I can’t t
Quoting Coraline Ada Ehmke (coral...@idolhands.com):
[Just a few parts that caught my eye. Not commenting on the
remainder without taking time for more-considered thought.]
> But licensing via OSI-approved instruments is about the rights of
> users, not creators.
The plain language of the OSD
Quoting Russell Nelson (nel...@crynwr.com):
> On 3/6/20 7:22 PM, Coraline Ada Ehmke wrote:
> >“Hostile takeover” is not a goal of the Ethical Source Movement.
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> Yes, it is. The Ethical Source Definition is hostile to the Open
> Source Definition -- that's why you want to change it.
Without co
On 3/6/20 4:47 PM, Coraline Ada Ehmke wrote:
On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Russell Nelson wrote:
I do NOT like the idea of ethical open source. It completely turns the idea of "forking
without permission" into "you can only run this software if I think you are a good
person.”
I see statemen
On 3/6/20 7:22 PM, Coraline Ada Ehmke wrote:
“Hostile takeover” is not a goal of the Ethical Source Movement.
Yes, it is. The Ethical Source Definition is hostile to the Open Source
Definition -- that's why you want to change it. You want to take our
authority, against our will, and use it to
On 3/6/20 7:22 PM, Coraline Ada Ehmke wrote:
(I can’t think of a single example in the modern world where “evil
people” enjoy the same full set of rights and privileges as the rest
of a community.)
Evil people still have the right to speak freely (&etc). The First
Amendment doesn't have an "e
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>>Cc: Gil Yehuda
>>Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Thoughts on the subject of ethical licenses
The messaging around the ESM also needs improvement.
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 6:34 PM Coraline Ada Ehmke
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> > On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Russell Nelson wrote:
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> > I do NOT like the idea of ethical open source. It completely turns the idea
> > of "forking without permission" into "you can only run this software if I
> > think you a
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 9:26 PM Gil Yehuda via License-discuss
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> Coraline
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> I'll share my opinion, offered with respect and after considerable reading
> and thinking about this. In order for the ethical source movement (ESM) to
> succeed and be understood, I recommend taking much more
Coraline
I'll share my opinion, offered with respect and after considerable reading
and thinking about this. In order for the ethical source movement (ESM) to
succeed and be understood, I recommend taking much more control over
messaging.
In your email below you said you resent the us-vs-them fra
Whoops, wrong keybinding. I guess that was on-list. Sorry, Caroline.
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Thanks for engaging in this discussion. I appreciate it.
Speaking privately, I think you should consider whether or not licensing
is the hill that ethical source wants to die on. If so, it'll deal a lot
of damage to both groups. If you guys can find other ways to promote
ethic
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 7:18 PM Drew DeVault wrote:
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> On Fri Mar 6, 2020 at 6:22 PM, Coraline Ada Ehmke wrote:
> > There is a strong contingent of people within the ethical source working
> > group who agree 100% with this sentiment about licensing not being the
> > best strategy. Although it is
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 7:18 PM Drew DeVault wrote:
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> On Fri Mar 6, 2020 at 6:22 PM, Coraline Ada Ehmke wrote:
> > There is a strong contingent of people within the ethical source working
> > group who agree 100% with this sentiment about licensing not being the
> > best strategy. Although it is
On Fri Mar 6, 2020 at 6:22 PM, Coraline Ada Ehmke wrote:
> There is a strong contingent of people within the ethical source working
> group who agree 100% with this sentiment about licensing not being the
> best strategy. Although it is the most visible of our many initiatives,
> please rest assure
I suggest publishing at IEEE Aerospace. I haven’t been in a couple years but
there were several EP papers then.
You just missed an CFP on open hardware but contact the editors:
https://www.computer.org/digital-library/magazines/mi/call-for-papers-special-issue-on-agile-and-open-source-hardware
On Mar 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Drew DeVault wrote:
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> I have some thoughts of my own regarding the ethical licensing movement.
> I hope we can promote a more civil discussion among peers, rather than
> between opponents.
I can’t tell you how glad I am to read those words. I am the first to admit
> On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Russell Nelson wrote:
>
> I do NOT like the idea of ethical open source. It completely turns the idea
> of "forking without permission" into "you can only run this software if I
> think you are a good person.”
I see statements like this being thrown around so
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